r/Teachers • u/Pample24 High School French | ND • 23h ago
Policy & Politics My students are getting deported
I teach highschool French and I have three students in my class from Haiti. I found out yesterday that their protected status is being revoked and they have two weeks to leave the US.
These kids are seniors, they all have jobs and are just out here to survive. Now they are forced to go back to Haiti where they said it's not safe for them. I wanted to see them graduate, now they'll never be able to walk across the stage. I've been crying for hours yesterday but there's nothing I can do about it.
And it hurts me more that the majority of my schools teachers voted for this (super red state). It's disgusting.
What am I supposed to tell the class one they notice our students are missing? We aren't allowed to talk politics really, but I can't lie to them. I'm 22, it's my first year teaching, I never thought I'd have to encounter a situation like this. America needs to do better for our children.
Edit: Thank you all for the support, I think my students need it more than I do but I appreciate it none the less.
Some comments mentioned the idea of setting up a fund. I LOVE the idea, but I'll be honest I have no idea how to put something like that in action. If anyone knows how to create something like that please reach out. Thank you again.
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u/fivecentrose 23h ago
Is there ANY way the district could allow them to graduate in the next two weeks? A diploma from an American high school would make it easier to get into US colleges next year, opening the door to a new visa for them.
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u/Pample24 High School French | ND 22h ago
I've spoken to a teacher from another school about this. I am going to talk to the principal this week to see what our options are. They're passing all their classes and have all the graduation requirements met. At the bare minimum they deserve a diploma.
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u/BillDifficult9534 22h ago
Don’t wait. Walk into the principal’s office on Monday morning and ask right away! Those poor kids, this is awful!
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u/CoffeeChocolateBoth 17h ago
WALK in there with those kids in tow!!!
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u/BillDifficult9534 15h ago
Even better!!!! And don’t feel nervous - guve ChatGPT all these same details and what you can say to your principal Monday. Then practice all weekend if you need to. You’ve got this!- Thank you for being on their side!!!!!
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u/seektoslumber 21h ago
Even if they could finish out High School “online” or “homebound” and then earn the diploma. Like I’m wondering if they could invoke homebound status somehow even if they left the country or a wink, wink, nod, nod to them finishing the classes in online school which could look like a phone call every two weeks or something to talk about math.
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u/JakBlakbeard 17h ago
That’s going to be a bitch finishing high school online as a refugee looking for shelter in Haiti.
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u/seektoslumber 17h ago
I agree. That’s why I was thinking an occasional phone call might suffice.
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u/inameena-mineymo 21h ago
YES! Contact your Principal RIGHT NOW. If they can get their diplomas, they will have a much better chance. I'm an English teacher, if they need help with college essays, please contact me!
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u/misguidedsadist1 15h ago
You are AMAZING and getting baptized by fire in one of the main side-tangents of education: social work.
You cannot set yourself on fire to keep others warm or violate boundaries, but you CAN: advocate, alert agencies and organizations, pound the pavement in your building, facilitate, and help. You cannot be a savior, but if these kids have met their grad requirements you are in a unique position to try and advocate for their diplomas. God speed, you're doing the good work.
I've done similar things on several occasions. I work my contract hours and don't spend my own money on stupid things, but I WILL use my skills and resources to advocate when a situation warrants it. Sometimes, it's a losing fight and it fucking suuuuckkkkssss. I've learned when to die on a hill and when to let shit go. But right now, if you have any fight in you and the ability to make some calls or have some meetings, why not?
Sometimes you gotta walk away and preserve your boundaries. But at least you tried, and that's okay. I'll never regret spending time advocating for a child. Keep your boundaries and ethics in mind, no matter what, but the emails, phone calls, and advocacy in this job are part of why I love it and at the very least I know when I'm reaching a dead end and need to let shit go. You can't let it take over your life, and you gotta keep your wits about you.
But you can make some calls, send some emails, have some meetings, and advocate. See what happens. Know when to turn back (Easier said than done). Keep professionalism and ethics at the forefront, but make those calls girl.
Fingers crossed you can find ways to support these families before they leave you. I'm so sorry this is happening--to them, to society, to you, to educators. The "fight" is actually what drives me sometimes. You're so so green, and I want to give you a hug and remind you when to disconnect though. I had to learn that the hard way.
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u/Commercial-General46 22h ago
That would be amazing! Please keep us updated on this 🙏🏽
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u/Sidehussle 20h ago
Oh yes! This is a wonderful idea FIVECENTROSE. I hope it all works out and they get their diplomas. Please update us PAMPLE24!
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u/Pample24 High School French | ND 20h ago
Yes! I will give updates! Thank you all for the support
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u/Inevitable-Rush-2752 19h ago
If there’s no way to expedite the coursework, is any sort of distance learning an option? I know that’s probably a long shot, and there are lots of details that have to fit in place (AP exams, state testing, etc?).
That’s just terrible and sad. I wish I was shocked, but I’m just sad for your seniors and all the other kids who have and will continue to get caught up in this.
I’ll be keeping an eye out for updates. Honestly, I find these threads helpful in a way since I’m filing advice nuggets away in anticipation of this eventually happening at my school.
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u/NatureOk7726 21h ago
They should be able to take the HISET or GED if they are too many credits short!
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u/tessislurking 19h ago
Student visas at universities are also being revoked and students from ivy League schools are also being booted from the country.
Source: This American Life did a piece on a Harvard PHD student who had to flee to Canada recently due to her visa being revoked and ICE coming after her.
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u/GoodwitchofthePNW 1st Grade | WA | Union Rep 13h ago
It would be easier to get into a university in Europe or Asia with an American Diploma too.
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u/tessislurking 7h ago
You're right, ofc. Didn't occur to me they'd go elsewhere outside the US (even though that's exactly what I've done as an American)
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u/FrodoFrooFroo 22h ago
THIS so much!!! Even if they have to be marked "present remote" or anything similar your school does for a while, if they've met requirements and are passing get them that diploma! Then let's get them burner phones and put them up somewhere so they're safer here than Haiti.
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u/caveat_emptor817 21h ago
I’m not saying that I don’t believe OP, but I will say that there is no scenario that I’m aware of (and I’m an immigration lawyer) where deportation/removal of non-detained persons happens in less than 90 days. So, unless these kids get picked up by ICE, they’ll have time to graduate. The courts require that non detained people with removal orders obtain the necessary travel documents to be permitted back into their home country.
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u/FlounderFun4008 20h ago
There have been commercials (from the US administration) stating that if they self deport they have a chance to come back. If they get caught they will be banned forever. This may be their situation.
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u/sqrrrlgrrl 17h ago
Does this administration even care about what the law says? People aren't getting due process, documented immigrants who have authorized visas are getting sent to prison in another country, and we're being told to ignore the judicial branch. You could probably hang them up in appeals, but they refuse to listen to judges' orders and immigrants aren't typically in a financial position to be in court like that + just putting a target on their back for ICE by doing so.
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u/sqrrrlgrrl 11h ago
And for the person who is unaware: Per the United States Constitution, and rulings by the Supreme Court, nearly every person who is on USA soil is entitled to due process under the 5th and 14th Amendment. That is regardless of your immigration status or criminal record.
If you doubt that, please feel free to look up Supreme Court decisions from 1927, 1982, 1987. There is a great summary of the only people subject to absolutely no review, and it is incredibly narrow and limited basically to an 18+ person who is not seeking asylum (Venezuela, for example) or a recognized asylum country (Haiti, for example) who has been in the country less than two years or a parolee or convicted aggravated Felon (so they've already had a trial of some sort where their status was verified) who has their parole revoked. Even then, those people cannot have a genuine fear of persecution, torture, or that they might come to serious harm, which is appealable decision before a judge (so, again, the judicial system must be involved). That group is so narrow as to be non-existent, especially in the populations Trump is targeting.
That link for reference: https://www.justice.gov/eoir/reference-materials/ic/chapter-7/4
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u/Wildflowers4me 19h ago
They should just stay in school. Maybe they can graduate in time. Then they can try to get asylum from another country. Hopefully this administration will be gone in 3/2 years (counting).
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u/Pample24 High School French | ND 21h ago
I won't lie, I'm no expert on immigration policy. My understanding is that they are expected to self deport by the end of April. What happens if they don't? I don't know. I found this out yesterday from their ELL teacher. Once monday comes around I'm going to speak with admin / other teachers to get a better understanding of it all.
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u/Dry-Table6639 19h ago edited 19h ago
No you cannot discuss this with the other teachers! Plyler v Doe landmark case to protect students in schools, part of Brown v Board.
The lawyer is correct. I work with many many kids with protected status, asylum cases. This has yet to occur for minors with cases.
You are responding to another teacher you don't have all the facts and may never have them.
For example, I have had students over 18 receive these kinds of orders when they fail to appear for appointments and so forth. None of you know anything really, this is for their guardians and their lawyer, perhaps the school counselor or social worker, not you.
Be aware that you and the ELL teacher are not allowed to discuss status and advertise it around the school or lounge as appears to be happenng. You and ELL teacher are going around guardians or parents and talking all over the school. Immigrant students do have families and guardians. This very inappropriate and possibly dangerous.
Do not bring this up as a class discussion and don't get into status with them, that is off limits to you.
What you can do is have the school counselor or social worker, not a group of teachers, privately discuss with them if they have representation, do this ASAP. The counselor or social worker can provide resources in the community, they should have this available. If they do not you could make a resource list for them. The counselor or social worker can also discuss the students emotional well being with the students and call their families. Haiti is not a place to return to currently.
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u/Pample24 High School French | ND 19h ago
Thanks for the info, what shocks me is that I have to learn this from a redditor and not admin or school staff. They've had no communication with me or how to approach the matter.
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u/Late-Statistician485 19h ago
I replied above but please contact the student migrant coordinator at the state and/or local level. They are used to helping students who have unique circumstances including the need to move frequently to follow seasonal growing patterns. I know the one from ND was phenomenal!!!
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u/Dry-Table6639 19h ago
You shouldn't have any info, that is the issue. ELL teacher should have taken it to counseling who can navigate it with guardians involved. Plyer v Doe means they are incognito served in schools for their protection. We don't collect stautus or ask.
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u/Wise-Relative-7805 18h ago
Yes don't ask don't tell about status. They are Human beings who have had their status illegally revoked. The 4th amendment is at risk if we do not speak up and out. Haiti is one of many locations where children are seeking refuge from. Their government is not secure.
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u/caveat_emptor817 20h ago
That could be the case if the end of April is 90 days from the date they were ordered removed. That would mean they lost their protected status two months ago. If they lose their protected status in two weeks, then they will still have 90 days to self deport
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u/Parking-Interview351 Economics | Florida 20h ago
You think this administration cares about immigration law? They’re rounding up brown people and sending them to the megaprison in El Salvador for committing no crime other then having tattoos
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u/Thought_Addendum 21h ago
Are you living under a rock? Why is it hard to believe you are not aware of a scenario when so many scenarios in all aspects of life are new?
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u/Warren_E_Cheezburger 20h ago
Unless your work as an immigration lawyer has you so overworked that you haven't been able to turn on a television or read the news since the inauguration, I don't believe your employment claim.
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u/VideoKilledMyZZZ 20h ago
I don’t know US law (I’m Canadian) but any hope I had that it is still being followed died not long after Welcome to Fascism Day (January 20).
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u/Haunting_Mango_408 19h ago
So could you potentially explain why their protected status was revoked without reasons? Seems like none of the regular laws are being respected lately
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u/GoodwitchofthePNW 1st Grade | WA | Union Rep 13h ago
What planet are you living on? Do you not pay attention to the news at all? People are getting rounded up by masked agents on the streets. Court orders are being completely disregarded by this administration. This kids are absolutely in danger of being rounded up.
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u/houseocats 23h ago
Don't lie, tell the other students the truth if they ask. It's not political to say "your classmates were deported". If you express your feelings about it, that might lead to a "political" comment I guess. Chances are the other kids will already know anyway
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u/-_SophiaPetrillo_- 23h ago
Except don’t frame it like that, because it makes it sound like they should not have been here. “Your classmates had their protected status revoked and were deported.” It’s fact, not political, and it places the blame where it needs to be.
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u/houseocats 23h ago
Yes, this is probably better than my original. Includes all the facts.
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u/-_SophiaPetrillo_- 23h ago
It’s ridiculous that we have to work together to explain this bullshit. We should be able to teach any student that walks in our doors, and they should be safe there.
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u/Capital_Ad_9602 21h ago
Yeah I would say something like “Their permanent status was revoked and they are being forced to leave, they did nothing wrong and this is not happening because of anything they did, etc.” Their only crime was being here during an administration that does not care about them or what happens to them.
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u/Muted-Program-8938 23h ago
If they get emotional they can always make a comment about how much they’ll be missed and how they wish those students could have walked across the stage.
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u/dhnyny 14h ago
My feeling is that this is not your story to tell. If I had students who were being deported I'd ask them what they wanted their classmates to know. I'd offer them the opportunity to tell their own story. I'd respect their wishes in this regard. Also relevant is their parents' wishes, since they are minors. If they or their parents want this kept private I would respect that. Our students need to get used to the reality that sometimes things happen and we don't get to know why.
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u/Feisty-End-1566 8h ago
I think telling the full truth is going to more important than feelings, as these kids will be lied to more and more by their government and some by their families
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u/Kumbhalgarh 2h ago
In my opinion, we are honour bound to inform our students what is happening because if today it is happening with one group of them then it is possible that some time later the same thing would happen to another group and it will generate fear, distrust and even hatred where the rest of them would start banding together "for survival" (because bullies would start becoming even "more active" than before, unfortunately with the open or tacit support of many teachers themselves) by excluding any one they don't consider to be someone who belongs to their own group. The bad blood it would generate between them would take year's to get resolved and sometimes even that wouldn't be enough.
I have seen this sort of thing happening both as a student (as a 10 year's old) as well as a teacher so know first hand what I am talking about.
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u/JollyDrawz 23h ago
Careful. The super red kid might tell his/her parents just to record your last day.
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u/hotdwag 21h ago
Nothing is wrong with stating an actual fact. Only thing to worry about is if someone in administration or a parent wants to politicize it.
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u/Alone-Stay-3377 23h ago
Ugh poor kids:( If your students are seniors and about to enter the world of the adults, they deserve to know the reality that is their country. You don't have to get political about it, just tell the facts. Their protected status was revoked, and they were deported. If they want to discuss it further with political opinions, leave that up to them to do in their free time🤷♀️
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u/keelhaulrose 23h ago
It's important to explain exactly what happened and why it did.
There's a narrative in conservative circles that the people getting deported are all violent criminals/gang members. These students will see that isn't true, that their friends are getting sent away despite doing nothing wrong. The more people see the truth the more pushback there will be against the inhumanity.
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u/Old_Advantage_2932 23h ago
Exactly. Many young people voted for Trump because their parents did. Either they’ve been lied to, they knew little about this madman, or they’ve turned out to be as awful as their parents. Arm them with info and they’ll make a better decision.
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u/Competitive_Remote40 22h ago
Many, many more voted because Andrew Tate and/or Joe Rogan told them to.
We really need to prepare kids to better understand how to interpret information.
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u/amwes549 12h ago
Or they were lied to by the alt-right personalities they follow, because they don't know any better.
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u/ehhhwhynotsoundsfun 8h ago
Yeah how about getting political if you want to teach children?
This attitude is why this situation exists. MAGA teachers are political as fuck and bring politics into the classrooms at all ages, especially in private schools. They don’t care about the rules, and they will shape young minds with micro aggressions that chip away at the marvel movie super hero sentiment of help and protect others without asking for anything in return because it’s the right thing to do… and replace it with the “the world owes me everything because my mom is white and shat me out her within the borders of the U.S.”
There is right and wrong. And if you only let the right comment on politics because you left your morality at the door to stay apolitical, the teachers that voted to deport kids back to a failed state ran by violent gangs don’t have morality to leave and end up removing it from impressionable minds.
Talk about WHY those kids HAD protected status. Talk about what has been happening in Haiti. Talk about the environment they are being sent back to. Show YouTube videos of what’s going on there. Talk about the implications. Talk about what the constitution says about human rights. And what “people” are. And have them ask themselves if their classmates should be considered people. And say you do. And so does the U.S. constitution. And the only reason the Supreme Court hasn’t confined that is because the administration is skipped court and ignoring judicial orders so there is nothing to escalate up to the Supreme Court.
If you get fired, document everything, the conversations, how it went down, and go get the story covered by every news source that will take it. Blow it up on social media. Create TikTok’s that tell the story in sound bites that are easy to digest.
Stop rolling over for this government. Stop letting them do evil shit and then hoping your kids will learn more about it in their free time because some asshole in charge of your school is censoring you.
Teach what matters. If you think this is wrong but do not clearly state it because you’re too afraid of the repercussions. The MAGA teachers will echo what the president says because they won’t get in trouble for it. That’s political.
NOT stirring up a bitch fit around this IS political itself. If this was 1930s Germany, you’d be saying to your kids “The government has decided that the Jews need to be confined to the ghetto because they are a threat to the state. I can’t tell you why, so do your own research at home if you want to.”
We do NOT need a new generation of Hitler’s Youth.
If the school fires you, go take a huge shit on the principal’s desk before you leave. That should get coverage. Especially if you record the aftermath.
(This is for OP, but reacting to your comment)
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u/Meowmeowmeow31 23h ago
I’m so sorry. It must be extra hard not being able to talk with your colleagues about it because they voted for it.
I don’t think it’s “talking politics” with your other students to be honest about what happened. “(Students) had Temporary Protected Status, which lets immigrants whose home countries are unsafe to return to stay here. The new administration revoked TPS from hundreds of thousands of people, so (students) were ordered to go to Haiti.” You don’t need to give your opinion on the order. Besides, it will be obvious to anyone with a heart or brain that it’s awful. Also, remember that it’s fine to tell kids “I don’t know” when that’s the truth.
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u/teachersecret 23h ago
I’ve worked in at least one school where children would have cheered for this.
Ugly truth of the matter is, many of these kids are just as brainwashed as their parents.
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u/Meowmeowmeow31 23h ago
Wow. That’s horrifying.
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u/teachersecret 23h ago
I don’t recommend working as a teacher in a red state. I got out of there for a reason ;).
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u/nospecialsnowflake 22h ago
This!!! It’s important for students to understand why they were here: their country isn’t safe and we offered them refuge here temporarily, and that protection was revoked so they have to go back to the unsafe country. Don’t sugarcoat it but don’t politicize it either. The facts speak for themselves and the students will draw their own conclusions.
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u/Maleficent-Web2281 23h ago
This is even more heartbreaking knowing what’s going on Haiti.
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u/ApartCharity619 23h ago
I used to volunteer in Haiti. It’s so bad, all humanitarian workers had to pull out.
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u/Maleficent-Web2281 19h ago
Thank you for your sacrifice and trying to help, we need more people like you.
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u/paradisetossed7 8h ago
I don't understand teachers who vote red. They hate education. My SIL is a teacher in a low income area in formerly purple, now red state. She doesn't make a lot of money but she works insane hours because she cares. She deals with abuse from students because she wants to reach as many as she can. Growing up in that same state, it was clear that most of my teachers were blue, with two noted exceptions who were certainly not the red of today. Can someone explain to me how people who choose to become teachers support this administration?
I'm also curious if anyone knows if the hold back of funds to blue states of education is likely to result in policy changes.
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u/Gold_Repair_3557 23h ago
I hate to say it, but America is only going to get worse for our children… for all of us… going forward. At least the non- rich non- white ones.
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u/Pample24 High School French | ND 23h ago
You're right, but I've always tried to hold on to some hope. Each day makes it so much harder
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u/Evening-Weather-4840 23h ago
Tell your kids to stay put and graduate, if they are minors, they should be able to graduate.
Tell them to stay in the US. Haiti is a death sentence right now.
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u/keelhaulrose 22h ago
At this point it might be the choice between self-deportation to Haiti and a notoriously brutal prison in El Salvador.
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u/otterpines18 CA After School Program Teacher (TK-6)/Former Preschool TA. 21h ago edited 20h ago
What about other countries? Is there anything preventing that (besides Border Patrol?).
Could they go to Canada or another country ? And apply for protective status thier (if Canada or other countries even allows that). The US can’t do anything if they are in another country with that countries protection
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u/really_not_unreal 23h ago
Given the US government is deporting people without due process and blatantly ignoring court orders to stop doing so, I don't think the kids will have a choice sadly.
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u/ArchimedesIncarnate 23h ago
My kids aren't rich, but upper middle class and white, and it's worse for them as well. The economy is being tanked, but that can be recovered from.
If you're not an asshole, then a less diverse society sucks and is bad for the rich white kids too. Even if they don't know it.
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u/Pample24 High School French | ND 23h ago
My school is known as the "rich kid school" The majority of my students have more money in their bank account than me haha. Plus our school is 90% white. I won't lie I definitely got into the "it won't happen to us" mentality but yet here we are.
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u/ArchimedesIncarnate 23h ago
Kids here legally are being disappeared for just saying Palestinians are human and have a right to self determination.
White citizens may not be deported, but we can be damn sure the Huckabee type crowd will be targeting white citizens that aren't Pentecostal whack jobs as well.
Decent people are well and truly fucked.
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u/teachersecret 23h ago edited 23h ago
Going to be worse for many children around the globe, too.
Done the math on how many children will die because USAID was unceremoniously cut? People overall?
That decision is already starting to kill people, and it’s likely to have a toll in the millions over the next few years. Children dying of tuberculosis, being born with HIV when we had effective programs that had made huge strides in irradiating childhood HIV, lack of malaria prevention and treatment, and just regular old starvation (to the tune of hundreds of thousands of children per year in the poorest corners of the planet). We’ve creates a humanitarian crisis on an insane scale… and it’s largely being ignored.
And nobody’s coming to save them. Europe is almost universally cutting foreign aid and ramping up military spending.
That’s how messed up this is. USAID being shuttered and ten thousand global employees who built up more than sixty years of expertise, supply chains, medical deals, community services… all gone.
And we know what will happen. The us government itself talked about the tens of millions of lives USAID directly saved over the last few decades and the countless millions relying on them, and those memos and studies were unceremoniously deleted along with the rest of the USAID web and physical presence. That action will almost certainly result in a holocaust-level number of human deaths on the far side of the planet to horrific and preventable disease and famine.
The worst part? We’re PAYING to do this.
$1 spent on USAID brought the US $20 in economic value and growth. $1 spent on USAID saves $7 in emergency disaster relief spending. We used USAID to stabilize whole regions and reduce immigration. We used them to prevent or contain outbreaks. They were deeply involved in the eradication of smallpox for Christ sakes. USAID was a net direct economic -benefit- to the US to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars (and likely trillions of dollars if we include the long term impact of things like ending smallpox). We, as Americans, are effectively paying to kill these people and destabilize the planet. Killing USAID takes money -out- of our pockets. We had a magic box that ensured hundreds of infants were born HIV free while turning every dollar you shoved into the box magically into more dollars… and we decided to stop putting money in the box.
And they know what this will do. They’ve been briefed. Fully. Even if you ignore all the other soft power benefits of USAID, the fact that without our assistance 500-600 babies will be born every single day with completely preventable HIV because we stopped providing the medication to the pregnant mothers is insane. The fact that hundreds of thousands to millions of children will almost certainly die of hunger and starvation because of this is insane.
Everything is on fire.
Tough time to be a kid. :(
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u/thoptergifts 23h ago
Many of these parents will gleefully throw their kids into the mines if it means more cigarette money, so I expect the rollback of child labor laws to met with enthusiasm
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u/KCpaiges 23h ago
I think about this every day. We’re about to have a whole lost generation of students who were deported, or sent to work before finishing school. Students who want to be in school, but the government made it easier for them to slip away.
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u/Art_Dude 23h ago
This is going to get worse.
Copied from a post from Alt National Parks......
We know this post is long, but it’s important to read to understand what’s going on. A lot of people are asking, “Why is Trump just out golfing while things are falling apart?” It’s simple: the emergency isn’t something he’s reacting to — it’s something he’s building.
Trump recently declared a national economic emergency under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) — granting himself sweeping authority over international trade by labeling foreign economic practices an “unusual and extraordinary threat.”
But here’s the real play: by declaring a national emergency,
Trump didn’t just respond to a crisis — he created one. And in doing so, he unlocked access to over 120 statutory powers scattered throughout federal law. Many of these powers have nothing to do with trade — and everything to do with expanding presidential authority inside the U.S.What This Move Enables: Expanded Domestic Powers
Control of Domestic Communications- 47 U.S.C. §606(c): Allows the president to take control of, shut down, or regulate wire and radio communications — including the internet, social media platforms, broadcast networks, and telecom infrastructure — in the name of national defense. Originally intended for wartime, this Cold War-era law remains on the books.
Asset Freezing and Financial Surveillance- Under IEEPA and related laws, the president can freeze the assets and bank accounts of individuals or organizations accused of aiding foreign threats. These powers are vague and can be stretched to include domestic political groups, journalists, or activists — especially if they’re perceived as having foreign ties or influence.
Domestic Military Deployment- Under the Insurrection Act (10 U.S.C. §§ 251–255), the president can deploy active-duty U.S. military to enforce laws or suppress civil unrest within the country. In certain scenarios, this can be done without state governor consent — especially if the president claims state authorities are failing to uphold federal law.
Emergency Detention Powers (Non-Citizens)- The Alien Enemies Act (50 U.S.C. §21) — a law dating back to 1798 — allows the president to detain or restrict the movement of non-citizens from nations deemed hostile. The criteria for “hostile” can be broad and undefined during a declared emergency.
Control of Energy and Transportation- Under laws like 42 U.S.C. §6272 and others, the president can redirect or restrict domestic fuel production, electricity usage, or energy transportation. Additionally, 49 U.S.C. §40106(b) allows the president to limit, reroute, or suspend civil aviation, giving the executive branch near-total control over U.S. airspace in a crisis.
Suspension of Labor Regulations- During a declared emergency, the president can waive federal labor regulations and override contract protections. This includes removing limits on hours, wages, and workplace safety for federal contractors and any industries deemed vital to national security.
National Security Letters & Warrantless Surveillance- Emergency declarations expand the reach and use of National Security Letters (NSLs) — tools that let federal agencies demand financial, telecom, and internet records without a warrant. These also come with gag orders, preventing the recipient (e.g., Google or a bank) from disclosing that they’re under surveillance.
Why it Matters?
Even when legal domestic powers are limited, a national emergency lets the president:- Frame the issue as a national security crisis, justifying aggressive action- Bypass Congress and the courts by acting unilaterally- Sway public opinion using fear, urgency, and patriotic rhetoric
Bottom Line
IEEPA is focused on foreign threats — but once the emergency is declared, the president taps into a hidden arsenal of domestic control powers. What began as a trade issue could quickly shift into civil liberties restrictions, mass surveillance, or even crackdowns under the legal shield of an “emergency.”
This isn’t just about tariffs. It’s about redefining the boundaries of executive power. Imagine if this economic crisis keeps getting worse — the amount of power he will gain.
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u/Long-Jelly-5679 Special Education | Texas 23h ago
I just read this earlier this morning. It's scary.
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u/DarkwingDuckHunt 17h ago
Don't put a political spin on it. Simply tell them the absolute truth.
"The US Gov't removed their status and they've been deported back to Haiti. If you all would like to know what kind of life awaits them there then I encourage you to go on the internet and find out."
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u/TeacherWithOpinions 23h ago
Tell them the truth. That their status was revoked for reasons you don't understand by the current administration and that you are heartbroken.
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u/too-many-squirrels 23h ago
This is so wrong! The Haitian community was really unfairly disparaged during the campaign which was one of a thousand reasons I didn’t vote for Trump. we are directly told not to make politic statements but this is a human rights issue. These kids are here legally and it is unsafe for them to go home. AP Video of ongoing Haitian violence
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u/too-many-squirrels 22h ago
I’m wondering if news organizations would be willing to do a story on your students, or people of the public can clap back by organizing rallys. While you can’t speak in the classroom, off campus you are a citizen just like anyone else so you can write your representatives, show up at town hall meetings, and voice your legitimate concerns addressing human rights violations.
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u/toughguy375 23h ago
Do talk politics if it's about the safety of your students.
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u/Safe_Code_6414 23h ago
I’ve said “that’s what people voted for” to high school kids a time or two. I’m at retirement age so they can fire me if they want. I’m done tiptoeing around their inherited abhorrent political alignments.
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u/Commercial_Star_4837 17h ago
PLEASE STAY IN CONTACT WITH THEM. Once something happens to trump or he's done with being president ALL OF THIS will be reversed.
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u/Minute-Plantain 9h ago
What am I supposed to tell the class one they notice our students are missing? We aren't allowed to talk politics really, but I can't lie to them.
(1) Tell them EXACTLY what happened.
(2) That is not talking politics. That is stating the facts.
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u/Flimsy_Maize6694 23h ago
I would tell them to go to Canada or Mexico.. Canada may offer refugee status 🤷🏼♂️
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u/SBingo 22h ago
I have a kid who has been in the US since kindergarten. Hasn’t shown up to school in a week. The kids tell me he self deported. He tried to go to Canada but was told no by Canada. That’s the story I got from the kids anyways. I messaged the parents and they haven’t responded to me.
But I wouldn’t be surprised if Canada is just saying no now.
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u/Secure_Screen_2354 21h ago
Far as I know Canada is really overflooded. Canada is just as big as the US, but it’s way colder so all the cities are along the border, everything up is just towns that get smaller and smaller. In America you can stretch out and go anywhere, in Canadian winter, nah.
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u/otterpines18 CA After School Program Teacher (TK-6)/Former Preschool TA. 20h ago
That going to get worse next year. When Canada, US & Mexico host the World Cup. How are they go to make everyone visiting leave 😛
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u/Ok_Voice_9498 22h ago
I don’t think Canada is allowing anyone from the US refugee status. And, the US is really strict at the borders of Mexico. I have a student who is a US citizen who was not allowed back into the US after spring break. He was visiting his family in Mexico. I don’t pretend to know the specifics of his family, but he’s 12 and is not allowed to return. He’s lived in the US his entire life.
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u/GuruliEd666 23h ago
All thanks to conservatives who know nothing but hatred
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u/Andys_Rock_Hammer 23h ago
And half of the country who couldn't be bothered to vote.
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u/lund_dd 15h ago
You should be honest with students and tell them the facts. They are young adults and need information. If they are seniors, they will be voting soon and need to know how policy affects humans.
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u/anotherthing612 15h ago
Ask the students leaving what they want and honor it. Facts are facts. They were deported and it had nothing to do with anything bad they did. The president made a new rule. Kids will draw their own conclusions. Hold your nose if some are stupid. But I bet this will be a teachable come to Jesus moment even for kids who have maga sensibilities who knew these kids from Haiti. If they act shitty, they will be seen as contemptible by the majority. Good. Trump impacted their friends' lives.
Yes-let them take an extension if they don't have internet access to complete studies online. Or keep enrolled with zeros for missing assignments and they still pass with a D. ;) Not like American kids don't do it this way-its called senior slump!
I'm sorry for your students and bless your compassion. You are a good person.
PS: if you raise money, do it quietly . Last thing they need is for some bad people to shake them down when they get back to Haiti. Do it on the DL
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u/Niceotropic 23h ago
ITS NOT "POLITICS" TO SAY A FACT EVER
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u/Pample24 High School French | ND 22h ago
Agreed! But in a country where a teacher is facing backlash from her admin for having a sign that says "everyone's welcome" because "not everyone may agree with the message" it's scary to even tell the students facts. Especially in a bright red state.
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u/seandelevan 22h ago
If your co workers are like mine they are damn happy about this. They are probably acting upset and concerned in front of you, but I guarantee they are fist pumping and excited about this behind your back.
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u/prismatic_snail 10h ago
“One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.” -MLK
"Get in good trouble" -John Lewis
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u/AlarmedLife5765 20h ago
How horrible! And we all know Haiti is like sending them to hell. Please, please keep us updated.
If you are scared to talk to admin, know you have all of us backing you and those students.
I live in a red state and considered myself a Republican for many years. Sh$& like this is shameful and I was never this kind of Republican. Notice was…
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u/Pample24 High School French | ND 16h ago
Haha I also WAS a Republican, but that's just because my family is. Appreciate the support. I was thinking about showing this to them to show the amount of love some of us have, but I'm not too sure if that's appropriate 😅
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u/lbwaltz11 22h ago
Maybe see if with just a few weeks left and extenuating circumstances if your registrar will cut grades (usually the teachers have to agree but maybe they will) and issue them a US diploma so at least they have that advantage and credit for their hard work. I'm sorry my friend. Sending strength and solidarity
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u/Techy_Teach 14h ago
We also have students missing because they went out of country on vacation and are having trouble coming back. I worry constantly and when a student is absent I generally fear the worst. I teach in a close suburb of Chicago.
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u/AnnieBMinn 11h ago
You have two weeks. See if there is an acceleration program they can pass to get their diplomas. If that is impossible, can they take GEDs to ensure they have graduation status? This is a travesty of human justice to children just starting out. If there had been more notice, they may have been adopted, the speed of this cruelty is its own cruelty.
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u/ECUDUDE20 Teacher | Music 13h ago
I mean this from the very bottom of my heart. Fuck any and everyone who supports deporting these children.
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u/WrapFit6112 23h ago
Did they have a sponsor here? We are worried for some Haitian relatives that are sponsored and have another year. Looks like they may get sent back and it’s heart breaking.
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u/Pample24 High School French | ND 23h ago
I don't know their exact situation but it sounds like that's exactly what's happening here. Their temporary protected status was supposed to still be valid for a lot longer.
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u/WrapFit6112 21h ago
Yes the ones my brother is helping are supposed to be able to stay and work 2 years but it’s being yanked at the end of the month. One is a 9 year old girl and the struggle it took To get them here was crazy with the gangs. They originally applied right after the earthquake in 2010 but just got approved last year!
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u/TheJawsman Secondary English Teacher 15h ago
I'd ask if there was any way they could participate remotely.
But if I were them I'd say stay in the states, find a way to do their work remotely for the final 10 weeks. Show up in person for state exams and ask your admin for some basic fucking human compassion to let them finish high school in the US.
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u/PrincessPlastilina 13h ago
Funny how MAGAs are all for deportations because they think immigrants break the law but they voted for a convict. And two, asylum seekers are LEGAL residents.
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u/CShellyRun 23h ago
Tell them the truth… the current policies are affecting their fellow classmates, and may affect them soon depending on their individual situations. This is a true learning lesson in real time.
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u/CSTeacherKing 23h ago
I actually got political in one of my classes the other day and didn't care. I don't like the stressful feeling that this has given me as a teacher. I don't think it's fair that we're being silenced. We've said for too long that evil proliferates when good people stay silent. And here we are being compelled to be silent. There are perhaps things we should not get political on, but this is our federal government making promises and then breaking those promises. How do we make good people without teaching some sort of ethics? Now I do have more liberty I think because I'm a computer science teacher with graduate education in stem, so they probably won't fire me. But at the end of the day I really don't care. I clearly don't talk about politics all the time of course but it just came up and I had a moment and explained my frustrations.
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u/melinda_lane 20h ago
This is my biggest fear. I’m a HS counselor, and we have a large ESOL population, all of which are assigned to me. Lots of kids here without documentation that came from unbelievably horrific situations in their home countries. I’m so sorry you’re going through this.
At my district in Maryland, sometimes they can allow students in situations where they have to move (usually military families) to get their diplomas early if the chief of curriculum and instruction approves the request. Please look into this and don’t wait!
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u/exlatios 23h ago
This, too, will eventually be part of the US history’s curriculum as to how the beginning of the end started
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u/AVGVSTVS_OPTIMVS 19h ago
I would make a point about bringing up the fact that they were deported. I wouldn't say trumps name outright, but I would tell them why their friends are no longer with us. They know who to blame.
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u/Main_Instruction_540 17h ago
Sending a digital hug. 🫂 This situation is a disgrace. Agreed with comments to work closely with principals, superintendent, and others to get these students graduated immediately.
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u/twittyb1rd 17h ago
Honestly it would probably mean a lot if you and other teachers of similar mind got together to let them know that they can contact you and that they have your support. It doesn’t have to be much; it would mean a lot to me in this scenario.
Being that we are so close to the end of the year, is there any way that they could wrap it up expeditiously and at least receive their diplomas that they’ve worked for? It might be worth asking depending on how close with admin you are.
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u/nwolfe0413 17h ago
Regardless of how this turns out, you will be a fantastic teacher! Please don't burn out too soon.
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u/FlorinaFortescueRC 14h ago
Your students have a right to know what’s happening to their classmates. I’m sure many of them will be hurting just like you. Maybe you could host a mini graduation ceremony for them or a going away party. It would do a world of good for your Haitian students to see the support and love their friends classmates, and other Americans have for them.
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u/catmamaO4 12h ago
were supposed to be the land of the free man. shouldnt we want people to want to come here? isnt the diversity of america part of the appeal? it breaks my heart that children have to go back to dangerous conditions because the government only want rich people here.
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u/NovelHare 12h ago
Republicans are truly heartless, each and every one of them is responsible for this, as are all who sat out and didn't vote.
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u/Maximum_Pumpkin_449 12h ago
Damn your 22 teaching? Big props to you! I definitely was not responsible at 22
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u/miamor_Jada 11h ago
Hi Stranger. Please accept my hug 🤗. I wish I could sit, cry and talk with you. All of this hurts. :(
It hurts me to see students be deported. It’s really hurtful
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u/CretaceousLDune 10h ago
You aren't supposed to tell students anything. When they ask, tell them to go to admin for answers. Put it on admin to tell other students why their classmates have been deported..
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u/drevalcow 10h ago
Is there anyway it can be worked out that they can at least walk across that stage?
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u/Ok_Length7872 10h ago
This is very sad, America is a land of freedom. These kids deserve that same freedom. Fuck Trump and his bullshit.
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u/Main_Perspective3763 10h ago
Oh no! I’ve been contacting my senators and rep who are maga to the core….we the people have to stop this. Can ACLU or immigrant lawyer take their case?
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u/Spanglish123 10h ago
Ask their families to speak to an immigration lawyer and appeal to the decision. They might have a chance if there’s no criminal record.
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u/cocinci 9h ago
Deporting regular folks who work, pay taxes, pursue education and have not done any crimes is the dumbest thing ever. I support strong border and deporting convicted illegal criminals but the folks who have done nothing wrong, have jobs and pay taxes…? instead of deporting them or dragging their cases give them a green card immediately and be done with it. You’ve already secured the border, what’s the point of wasting resources to deport them? It’s a lose lose case
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u/Discount_Plumber 9h ago
School bus driver here. I have 6 refugees on my bus. 3 from Rawanda and 3 siblings from Malaysia. I terrified everytime I go to pick them up and they're not at their stop. All of them have been exceptional kids in terms of behavior and kindness.
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u/Nikkibanksy 9h ago
I thought this was all about getting the dangerous criminals out not revoking student visas!! But you can buy citizenship for 5 million dollar gold card. This is heartbreaking
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u/soapymeatwater 49m ago
I can’t believe we’ve come to this as a country. What a sad day for everyone. Shame on us.
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u/AJSings85 23h ago
I can't imagine teaching in a heavily red voting building with diverse students right now... the heart hurt of that extends to my brain! I'm so sorry for your position :(
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u/AdvancdReference415 22h ago
I think the school’s admin should explain it, so teachers don’t have to be in that position.
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u/Pample24 High School French | ND 22h ago
I wish. I didn't even find out that their status was revoked from admin... It came from their ELL teacher. Our admin doesn't care.
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u/AirSwift11 22h ago
Yup. I’ve had elementary school students, one being a 6 year old child. I was like are you serious? Wtf. 🤬
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u/Old_Advantage_2932 23h ago
Personally, if I was teaching high school students (I teach elementary special ed), if they asked where they are, I’d tell them. I would sue if they fire me.
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u/Whose_my_daddy 22h ago
I’m assuming you might be at a private school? Is there any chance your school could allow them to finish remotely and graduate? We had a student forced to return to Thailand in March 2020 due to … you know … and she zoomed into her classes and graduated. She was actually Salutatorian and she zoomed into graduation. They put a laptop on a chair, she gave her speech, wore her cap and gown, flipped her tassel, everything.
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u/Pample24 High School French | ND 22h ago
Public school here, but I am going to get in contact with some people to see what our options are. They deserve to graduate.
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u/Realistic-Text8176 22h ago
If you are afraid to tell the truth to your students then it's already a political statement. Be honest, speak your mind. Don't be afraid to use your freedom of speech. Also, you are a French teacher. Surely there are some French cultural or historical aspects you could teach your students that would matter and make a difference in those days while still remaining on content. I'm also a French teacher, I know how it can be.
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u/interstellargoreela 17h ago
What a MOD ! You deserve everything nice in this life and beyond
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u/parrot1500 15h ago
LOVE the moderator for this. Thank you.
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u/AdeptnessMoney8008 14h ago
Me too. One of my favourite things I’ve ever seen from a MOD. They ate.
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u/drew15401 10h ago
Long time teacher here. I’m NOT going to weight in on the issue of deportation; that’s for the legal system to sort out. Let me give you some advice: you are 22 years old and a first year teacher; which means you DON’T have tenure and are on a one year contract. Your principal and administrators will recommend whether you get a renewal or not. If you confront the principal, you may or not get a positive response to your opinion. If you are too vocal and your views are contrary to public opinion, your job is seriously in jeopardy. They CANNOT get rid of you for expressing your opinion (Firsr Amendment), but they CAN get rid of you for job related issues. An administrator may observe your classes and nitpick things you did wrong. They can find “problems” with your poorly prepared lesson plans. They can accuse you of grading unfairly and having favorites. And you can be sure if any parent or student complains about your class, you will receive written reprimands. Students complain you go too fast or too slow. You were not at your assigned duty on time.
Don’t jeopardize your livelihood for what you consider a “noble cause.” They can and will get you out if “the powers that be” decide you are. Liability.
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u/SnooDoggos8938 23h ago
I am so sorry. I can't imagine that pain. I left Texas and think of my undocumented students there all the time wondering how they are.
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u/KotoElessar 15h ago
I found out yesterday that their protected status is being revoked and they have two weeks to leave the US.
There was a man in Maine, father of a five-year-old; he was granted protected status and deported to that South American Prison and the federal Judge is furious.
Any way you can contact the Judge or the legal team representing the Maine man?
My bet, they are being told by one of Elno's goons that they are being deported when in reality they have due process. (Maybe? We should know by September if America is still a democracy)
Don't be paralyzed, there are still ways to fight, even if you think it is too late.
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u/Slow-Employment8774 23h ago
Awful. And I don’t understand how stating a fact is considered political. I’m fighting back on this as hard as I can by sticking to facts - no adjectives or adverbs and no expletives (tough).
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u/KiniShakenBake 20h ago
I realize it's a difficult situation... Is there any way possible to put on a graduation ceremony for these students before they leave? In the gym, or on the field or something. Bring everyone out and let them walk across the "stage" to collect their diploma holders so they can have that experience and their classmates can celebrate them before they are forced into the cruel situation they are dealing with?
If they can do anything to grant those diplomas anyway, they are in their last semester of senior year. There is a will. There must be a way.
Can they be granted diplomas so they have that bit of leg up as they go out into the world? That way they can go to college if that is what they pursue and these last few months of high school won't be a stumbling block the current administration gets to put in front of them for the rest of their lives. The school district can do that much.
Here's hoping.
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u/ToothPickPirate 20h ago
It’s horrible that kids are being subjected to something so harsh and at such a young age. Shameful. I applaud you for how deeply you care for the needs and well being of your students. You’re amazing!! I hope they can complete their studies enough to get their diploma!!
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u/CandidConfusion2991 20h ago
I'm an black American, and believe it or not, a lot of Haitians voted republican
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u/Crawfordking 19h ago
I teach at a very heavy minority school. Lots of Asian immigrants and first generation Americans. I pray daily they are safe.
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u/Hot_Hat_1225 19h ago
As someone in Europe this is so painful and gobsmacking. As if these teenagers aren’t going through enough already at that stage this creates just more stress and insecurity. I hope you can find a way to at least get them their degree so they at least have that for starters 😔
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u/Efficient-Plantain13 19h ago
Talk to your Administration about legal options for your students and their families to pursue while appealing their deportations. Also, encourage your students (regardless of immigration status) to know their rights and they do not have to answer any questions to law enforcement without a Judicial Warrant.
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u/Budget-Actuator-1336 19h ago
I am so sorry to hear that. The way some children are, they could think it was Their own fault or something.😢
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u/Few_Age4344 19h ago
Live your values. Tell them how it is with compassion and love. You’re there for the kids, not the government or admin. At 22, if they give you the hammer, you’ll find another job and land on your feet. Teacher roles are aplenty.
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u/iworkbluehard 19h ago
Yikes - not good. Haitians are going to be targeted. Sorry about that. We are in for a dangerous and chaos period in every aspect of our life's.
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u/heathersomers 18h ago
This is why I turned in my retirement paperwork and I’m leaving the country. Heartbreaking 💔
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u/QueenChocolate123 18h ago
Tell your class the truth. Don't sugarcoat it. You're not talking politics. You're answering students questions about what happened to their classmates.
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u/OkDream5303 18h ago
This makes my heart hurt. Sending a virtual hug to you OP. 🫶🏻
How human beings can do this to other human beings and it’s based off the color of their skin or what Country they were born is beyond comprehension.
You can ban me if this isn’t allowed here but fuck Trump and every person that voted for that piece of shit.
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u/BeeSquared819 18h ago
To you, sir, I say nothing. Instead, I shall stand and applaud your post. Good for you; you’re good people!
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u/Electro-Tree-Fall 18h ago
Try setting up a go fund me or something see if there’s something we could do
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u/Rosie_Hymen 18h ago
All I can do is complain to our government and I am.
And pray for these folks, which I am.
This crap is breaking my heart.
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u/MidnightShampoo 18h ago
I'm very sorry that this is happening to them. I can't imagine what they are going through, and I also cannot imagine what you must feel like; to have put so much time and effort and care into educating them and to see them just...removed due to no fault of their own. This isn't the type of world that I want.
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u/sryan1206 18h ago
Call habitat for humanity they work with other organizations that can help with refugee status. That is my only suggestion
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u/Celestialnavigator35 17h ago
I'm just in tears thinking of this. This is a horrid situation and you are such an amazing young teacher for working so hard for them!!! I feel like with people like you in our schools, things have got to get better eventually.
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u/Troy242426 17h ago
I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this. I can’t imagine what teachers are going through right now with the Dept. of Education being dismantled and ICE running rampant without respect for due process.
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u/National_Ad_682 17h ago
I can’t imagine how you and these students are feeling. There is not enough food in Haiti. They have no government right now.
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u/infectedNeoVagina 17h ago
Thank you for this, I am sending lots of love, Haiti isn’t a safe place at all, I only hope for the day where we can import all the Haitians here, so that everyone will finally be in a safe country. Stay strong and remember orange man won’t always be in power (at least, I hope not)
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u/NotedInPassing 17h ago
No clever comment here, just sending you love. That’s absolutely gutting. You sound like the kind of teacher these kids will remember forever—someone who actually gave a damn. If you do figure out a fund or way to help them, drop it. A lot of people would want to support, including me.
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u/idknotfound018 17h ago
Thank you for having empathy for, and taking care of your students. but also, this isn’t about “talking politics”, it is about standing against fascism.
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u/nylady914 17h ago
This is so very sad. 😢 I know you & your Principal will try your best to advocate for and help these young people. Please wipe your tears; you are doing all you can in a terrible situation.
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u/girlinthegoldenboots 17h ago
I teach at a community college. Most of my students are immigrants. I’m so worried about all of them. This is frightening and heartbreaking.
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u/ThisGuy-AreSick 20h ago edited 11h ago
Edit: People are saying they want this energy from their politicians. Tell them! https://5calls.org/
Hi! I just banned dozens of people for supporting the deportation of children.
I don't give a shit if it's your first post in our community or if you have a million posts here.
If you express any support whatsoever for kicking people out of our country, I'm deporting your ass from our subreddit. 👊🇺🇸🔥
Please interpret this executive order VERY broadly. I'm looking for a reason to ban you.
Edit: lmao no one else can see the smooth brained shit being posted in reply to this because their comments don't get past automoderator, but here's some follow-up before I get to banning them.
This is not a free speech subreddit. You have no right to free speech here. Your participation in this subreddit depends entirely upon my approval. You have entered our borders illegally and I will send you back to where you came from.
Please continue bitching in the replies so I have a shortlist of whom to ban. I know you can't resist saying your piece even though it will be automatically deleted and no one will see it but me. Then go ahead and appeal the ban; it will be automatically denied and you will be muted. After all that, go touch grass.
Edit 2: I hope the people who are giving me awards are not paying for them. Reddit admins don't deserve your money.
Edit 3: just hit 69 bans in the replies to this 😎🤙🏼