r/ThatsInsane • u/rutgerbadcat • 1d ago
Alternate view of German space rocket failures impact from Norway
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u/Lodju 1d ago
Was it a failure though, they wanted data and got it.
Didn't they say it will probably crash.
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u/free__coffee 13h ago edited 13h ago
Yes, it was a failure, TF? If I design a test car, and it blows up 200 feet off the starting line, it's a failure. Sure you can claim "I got some data, so maybe next time we'll actually be able to take it around the track!"
Learning from a failure does not change it into a success
Edit: this failure is even worse, because they just didn't put a self destruct device on this rocket, as a design decision. All the articles claim that tech from a Spanish company had this rocket crash safely, but it didn't: all the tech did was shut off the engine - the fact that it landed in the ocean rather than blowing up the launch pad was pure luck
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u/maxtinion_lord 12h ago
ah yes, the redditor who knows everything about everything, pray tell me how you know the crash trajectory was 'pure luck' and not the planned result, like they keep fucking saying. no shit they put a fail safe to turn off the rocket, especially one they KNEW WAS GOING TO CRASH, like damn dude pick your head out your ass and accept that there's nuance in the world and the thing isn't bad because your chimp brain saw an explosion.
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u/Euphoric_Election785 9h ago
Just say you know nothing of the scientific method and research and development fam
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u/Emilia963 1d ago
Didn’t they think about the environmental impact of the explosion? That’s horrible
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u/Xalethesniper 1d ago
You’re kidding right
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u/TOHSNBN 1d ago edited 1d ago
You’re kidding right
Other submissions to reddit from this user "Emilia963" include:
I have rethought withdrawing from NATO. I think what we should do is make NATO more like a subscription-based business, for example: Every NATO member is going to pay us a lot of money in exchange for a security guarantee lasting about five years.
Edit: the downvotes are hilarious, the American people are tired of babysitting the rest of the world including your mom.
And one more
Tesla’s stock is currently going up, and the left is ven more angry
Another one
Trump needs to chill, he already got my vote.
Last one
It has been scientifically proven that liberals are more likely to have diagnosed/undiagnosed mental illnesses
Conclusion, do not waste your time trying to argue with this human garbage or ai driven russian propaganda bot.
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u/Oaker_at 19h ago edited 18h ago
Dont forget her saying denying the holocaust is an opinion that one is allowed to have.
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u/Shun-Pie 1d ago
Thanks for your effort! If we were in a different sub I'd gift you a !redditgalleon
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u/QarzImperiusrealLoL 18h ago
Lmao that NATO statement is such bullshit its crazy
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u/Cheeme 14h ago
The short term memory loss in America must be real, given that they are the only country to ever invoke article 5.
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u/QarzImperiusrealLoL 12h ago
In the 90s i assume?
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u/GroenBloed 17h ago
Its so surprising that people with mental illness would support the party that cares about them being able to get treatment vs the party that thinks they should be locked in asylums or outright killed. Really hard to figure that one out honestly. (/s if it wasnt clear)
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u/Affectionate-Mix6056 23h ago
Usually when people bring up someone's posting or comment history I reply "we don't do that here", not now though... That person sounds like an absolute shit human being. To even consider making NATO a subscription service...
Reminds me of the brazen bull, where it was tested on the inventor first. Don't mess around with friendship, extorting friends is not how you keep them when you need them.
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u/dreizehn1313 1d ago
Don’t worry, the rocket ship was towed outside the environment
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u/Dracampy 1d ago
Lmao a conservative caring about the environment. Funniest shit I heard in a while.
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u/silverclovd 18h ago
When you're soo goddamn awful on the Internet that others dunno whether to feel bad for people in your family or be afraid of that genetic material daring the society to try & multiply with it.
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u/iamkristo 15h ago
I can’t tell if you, as an American, are serious about this comment or you’re just kidding
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u/raw-mean 1d ago
That wasn't a failure. It was controlled abortion, because they wanted to get data; that was their goal.
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u/Catch_ME 1d ago
So a successful failure? Or failed success?
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u/raw-mean 23h ago
Neither, nor. They reached their goal, and everything went according to plan. That's called a success.
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u/-Clean-Sky- 16h ago
Its a fail.
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u/raw-mean 6h ago
Again, a fail is, if you try but don't reach your goal. They never intended to go into space with that particular rocket. Before the start, they already had ruled out that it would reach orbit. That is not due to incompetence to build a rocket that could, but because they wanted to test everything out first...including their abort system.
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u/RumiRuShu 1d ago
I wanted to write too.
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u/raw-mean 1d ago
I wanted to hurry up posting that, before it gets drowned in comments stating that it's a failure.
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u/free__coffee 13h ago
A "controlled abortion"? That seems rather generous, the control algorithm cut the engines off, and the rocket went into a random ballistic trajectory. It was luck that this didn't end in a much more severe disaster.
They weren't trying to test flying a rocket into the ocean, they were trying to test a 2 stage orbital rocket. They failed, and doing so without a self destruct mechanism was reckless
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u/raw-mean 6h ago
The aim here was to gather as much information as possible, testing their systems, including the abort system. Before the launch they already stated, that they don't intent to fly into orbit with this particular rocket.
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u/free__coffee 13h ago
Yea, no not at all, this is just propaganda.
If you notice, it was an "orbital launch vehicle" not an "aquatic launch vehicle". This is an absolute failure, they didn't get to test the second stage of the rocket, nor did they get to test the ability of the rocket to get a payload into orbit
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u/-Clean-Sky- 16h ago
That's a stupid failure and environmental disaster from so galled "green" country.
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u/raw-mean 6h ago
I don't know what counter measures they took to avoid pollution, but it is not a fail. BEFORE placing the rocket in position, they already had ruled out that it would reach orbit. Not because they couldn't build one that could, but because they wanted to test everything out first...including their abort system.
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u/dhens38 1d ago
Damn, people really be posting whatever title they want. Isar Aerospace said that initial launch could end prematurely, but the test will produce extensive data. Is that really a failure? It took me 2 seconds to google this.
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u/dogemikka 1d ago
initial launch could end prematurely... suggests there was still a small hope that the rocket would complete its intended flight path. The substantial explosion at the crash site indicates significant remaining fuel, which was meant to power a much longer journey. It's likely the team was well aware that the odds of a successful flight were very low at this development stage, where progress typically comes through trial and error and collecting extensive data from each attempt.
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u/free__coffee 13h ago
Yes, that is really a failure. If you had googled for 10 seconds, you would have seen that they were trying to test a 2-stage orbital launch vehicle, and instead they nearly blew up the launch pad
Not only did they risk blowing up one of the only European launch pads in the world, but they also did not get to test the second stage of the launch.
This is really bad, if you know anything about engineering or space flight. Virgin galactic dissolved entirely because of failures like this one
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u/Mudflap42069 1d ago
Great data collection event, which was expected. Shout-out to the engineers. This was a gold mine for them.
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u/Mudflap42069 1d ago
Data on how parts of the rocket failed, data on secondary backup systems, data on tertiary backup systems, safety data, intentional abort data, data on abort affects of the surroundings, and data on how fat your mom is.
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u/ipokesnails 1d ago
The same kind of data that SpaceX gets when they launch a test rocket: engine performance, stress levels, temperatures, potential or actual failures.
It cost a significant amount more to lose a rocket, but it can be worth it to find real world stuff that might not have been revealed in months or years of simulations or test fires.
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u/Non-Current_Events 23h ago
Damn, somebody tell them they are going to have to get way higher than that. Like at least twice as high.
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u/carbon-based-biped 1d ago
I am guessing one of the lessons learned will be to move all your ships out of the potential crash sites
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u/RumSunSea 1d ago
Is there any info on the water pollution and cleanup after the explosion?
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u/StaleH77 14h ago
All debris have been recovered, according to local media. The pollution is but a small fraction of what else we are pouring into the oceans on a daily basis, I imagine..
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u/MrPositiveC 21h ago
So Norwary is trying space now too? hehe
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u/StaleH77 14h ago
This launch site has been active for quite some time. It was also involved in what was the closest thing to a nuclear war we've had the last decades. Russia 'forgot' the planned launch of a satellite from Andøya space centre and was reportedly very close to send their Nukes on the USA. I believe this was in the 90's..
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u/raw-mean 1d ago
It was planned that way. They didn't aim to go to space, yet, they wanted to collect data and let it drop into the ocean. The title is absolutely misleading!
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u/Punch_Your_Facehole 1d ago
The fish