r/TheDeprogram • u/InevitableCup9053 • 1d ago
worldnews subreddit finally calling out israel?
seems like now they dont make excuses for war crimes anymore and actually call them out, and blame the us too. Is it because of hatred for trump? I doubt their concern is real or if its just as a fuck you trump.
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u/No-Owl517 Ministry of Propaganda 1d ago
I hate that people started hating the US only after they started to reduce support for Ukraine and/or after they introduced the taxes, or after they elected McD for president. All the shit the US did or supported around the world for decades didn't matter to people.
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u/South-Satisfaction69 Life is pain 1d ago
It’s really angering to me and makes me somewhat of a Misanthrope.
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u/ArymusDesi 1d ago
And so many of them have not woken up to the fact that being slaves to a duopoly is no way to live. I haven't looked at World News but I see conversations all over between US people just doing the same tired old partisan shit "you shoulda voted Dem"
If I interject and say "Only a small fraction of you made a morally brave choice and voted third party. The rest of you are doing nothing to even question your disastrously corrupt political system" they go silent.
Many of them are (somewhat understandably) operating from a place of fear now and just want to dial time back slightly. They need to become more radical and more broad in their political views. As you say, they should be thinking more about US history and foreign policy. Instead they retreat into individualism which will not help at all.
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u/Vermouth_1991 1d ago
Funny how it's not exactly healthy to have an almost-duopoly in nations where little parties at least have a few seats in Parliament, but the Murica edition is totally beloved and the Dem party need not do anything except not-be-as-"bad"-as-GoP.
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u/rfg217phs 1d ago
Yep you nailed it. So many people now suddenly “always against the genocide” but also believing that leftists are the reason we have it getting worse now like we weren’t always opposed.
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u/UnderpantsGnomezz 1d ago
Iraq 2.0, we called it from the very first day. Being a tankie is so hard, imagine being right all the fucking time
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u/Irrespond 1d ago
That's our superpower. Being proved right when it's no longer politically advantageous to us.
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u/PrincessTo3s 1d ago
yeah nailed it. the delulu is so stronk I been reading comments in the lib threads like "the Republicans are never going to win an election again!!1!1!" sure ok buddy.
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u/photochadsupremacist Hakimist-Leninist 1d ago
This isn't what's actually happening.
In some rare cases, where the evidence is so overwhelming and when there is literally no way to rationalise or justify the war crime, zionists will either stay silent, or pretend it's a bottom-up action that needs to be prosecuted harshly.
And then they go back to their usual hasbara.
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u/MyIguanaTypedThis 1d ago
There’s always been comments criticizing Israel, but they’ve always been downvoted or reported to oblivion.
You do see an evident change now though, and my theory is that Israel probably hasn’t paid the bot farm subscription this month yet.
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u/Foreverthesickgamer 1d ago
It's because "their team" isn't in charge, so 'bad thing' isn't a necessary compromise anymore. Till next election season that is
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u/Vermouth_1991 1d ago edited 1d ago
Caitlin Johnson stays winning with her call-out articles.
And I don't think she is even a communist.
(ETA Call-Out not Callous fml)
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u/Misaka10782 1d ago
I have been banned from worldnews for over 2 years, bro, that's how democracy and free speech works, amen.
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u/JaThatOneGooner Unironically Albanian 1d ago
Part of being an actual leftist is that you’re right, but way too early.
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u/Majestic_15 Oh, hi Marx 1d ago
In my city's subreddit (São Paulo), left-wing posts started to be massively banned. They went to the moderator's profile and discovered that he is also a moderator for World News. Reddit is a joke.
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u/royalblue9999 1d ago
Sorry nah. In my observation, the majority on that sub still overwhelmingly side with Israel. Just that every once in a while Israel does something indefensible, then the loud majority stay quiet like the usual hypocrites they are, and so all you'll see are the ones who've been calling them out all along.
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u/Two_Word_Sentence 1d ago
We're seeing some hints that the real antisemites (the White Supremacist West) are preparing to sacrifice the Jews now, after having started to outlive their usefulness to the West.
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u/lionalhutz 1d ago
Look at it this way: when No Other Land won for best doc and the guys went up and called it a genocide everyone cheered, but when Glazer, who won for Zone of Interest in 2024, went up and called it a genocide, everyone booed
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u/georgakop_athanas Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communist 1d ago
You probably saw an aberration, when the mods were asleep and unaware of the anti-zionist comments.
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u/nutshucker 19h ago
being an actual leftist is being right, too early. these people will catch up in a few years and then when you ask them, “where were you during the palestinian genocide?” “Me? Out protesting all day, of course!” Just like everyone that likes lying about where they were during the Vietnam protests.
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u/photochadsupremacist Hakimist-Leninist 1d ago
While yes, there are a lot of liberals who now strongly oppose the genocide because it has Trump's fingerprint on it instead of Biden, the reality is that they go silent in some rare cases where they can't possibly find a way to rationalise the war crime, or they pretend it's a bottom-up issue that needs to be (and will be) prosecuted harshly.
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u/Still_There3603 1d ago
That's only because Trump won and Netanyahu is aligned with Trump + Israel is aligning itself more with Russia after Trump normalized relations with Russia.
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u/PlaseNine 20h ago
Doesn't seem like it when I check they're still defending israel and hating Hamas
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