r/WWOOF • u/PossibleOwl9481 • 1d ago

visa dangers now far greater

For those who have not seen, take a read here. Very soon in the article it became clear to me what her mistake was.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/05/i-was-a-british-tourist-trying-to-leave-america-then-i-was-detained-shackled-and-sent-to-an-immigration-detention-centre

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u/SeaTheBeauty 1d ago

Wwoof usa? I think you need to issue warnings. It's not safe for foreigners to wwoof in the usa right now.

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u/throw-away-doh 14h ago

They already know this. Its not news that you may need a work visa to Wwoof:

https://help.wwoof.net/hc/en-us/articles/16654279384221-What-visa-do-I-need

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u/Substantial-Today166 1d ago

why she did too here self breaking the the golden rule

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u/SeaTheBeauty 1d ago

Sure, but frankly I don't care what happened. No one should be treated that way.

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u/Substantial-Today166 1d ago

happens all the time here in europe and the UK funny how that newer is seen on the news

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u/AnBronNaSleibhte 22h ago

Not like what's going on in America, legal immigrants are being taken off the streets and deported. It's unconstitutional and illegal, but the president is doing it anyway.

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u/Substantial-Today166 19h ago

you shold check out a tv show called border force when they raid companys and houses to arest hard working pepole

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u/AnBronNaSleibhte 18h ago

Yes, I know of the show, but that's got nothing to with what I said.

I may disagree with how some countries enforce their borders, but it's their laws and they are deporting who they view as illegal immigrants, in their country without the right visa/documentation/permits etc. Unfortunately, the law doesn't care about how good or hard working people are.

But in America, under the new administration, legal immigrants are being deported. These are people with documentation, correct visas, student visas for example, who are being taken off the streets, kept in cages and then deported despite being their legally and having committed no crime.

The reason for their deportation could be because they're from a county Trump doesn't like, or because they attended a left wing peaceful protest, or literally any reason. People are also having their Visas revoked suddenly, without warning and with no good reason.

I would advise nobody to travel to the USA, due to this uncertainty.

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u/Substantial-Today166 16h ago

was it not obama that deported the most the last 30 years

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u/sole_food_kitchen 16h ago

Those people aren’t black bagged for weeks and there’s zero chance of them ending up in an El Salvadorian labour camp

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u/Substantial-Today166 16h ago

i have helped migrant charities seen it first firsthand in detention centers some sit for years here and then deported to afganistan and it still goes on under the taliban now

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u/sole_food_kitchen 16h ago

Cause I worked with the calis migrants and it wasn’t anything like this

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u/Smurfiette 1d ago

Workaway is work. You’re providing service for a place to stay/food that you’d otherwise pay for. You need a work visa for workaway and wwofing which is why people here are often told not to say what they’re going to do. It’s a risk (be caught lying) everyone here is aware of. It is work no matter how much we try to rationalize it in our heads. You cannot work on a tourist visa. The 10-year ban is expected.

That said, the detention part should not happen. Ideally. She should have just been deported immediately.

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u/PossibleOwl9481 1d ago

Different countries and sometimes different offices have different ideas on whether workaway needs a work visa.

But yes, the detention was utterly unnecessary. The Canadians could have given her a handcuffed escort to Vancouver airport and put on a flight home, or the US could have just done the same at Seattle; she was trying to leave the US anyway. But I guess the US felt they had discovered a crime to investigate after the fact.

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u/Substantial-Today166 9h ago

Different countries tell us 3 countries please

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u/PossibleOwl9481 9h ago

You want to visit a country, it is your job to research such things for that country.

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u/Substantial-Today166 8h ago

i know that and 99% are the same so dont tell pepole that there are countries that dont care about the rules you are getting pepole in troble

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u/PossibleOwl9481 8h ago

Quite the opposite. Each country is sovereign and has their own rules. Not all are the same, not at all.

Some have no issue with working or similar and do not see it as needing a work visa.

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u/Substantial-Today166 8h ago

so tell us 3 then if you are so corect

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u/PossibleOwl9481 8h ago

Like I said, it is the job of the traveler to research that for where they want to go.

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u/myhusbandskinner 1d ago

yeah well it's been like this. you have to be careful with what youre telling. to book a hostel for the first days or so

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u/SeaTheBeauty 1d ago

Sure, but the worst case scenario should be a prompt flight back to your own country and sure maybe a 10 year ban.

But no one should be treated the way she and many others are at the US border. And she's got a pretty privileged race and nationality. Imagine if she'd had darker skin or a less prominent passport...

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u/myhusbandskinner 1d ago

yeah not saying anything to the contrary. although I think a 10 year ban is absurd.

a 1 year ban would be sufficient

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u/luna0824 1d ago

I was "detained" in Canada in 2014 for Workaway......

Nothing new here, rules are rules.

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u/thestarsinthesea 19h ago

what happened?

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u/PossibleOwl9481 1d ago

I think it is the treatment that is new here.

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u/Substantial-Today166 1d ago

she missed the golden rule of volunteering abroad