r/WaitThatsInteresting • u/MarvelBruh • 3d ago
technology "We could never construct the pyramids, even with today's tools.”. Today's tools:
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u/ScarryShawnBishh 3d ago
Well people who say that also vote for Trump.
It’s just an excuse to eventually be able to claim people are worthy of being treated like humans one way or another
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u/keptpounding 2d ago
Lmao way to take some that’s not political and make it political.
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u/-CocaineCowboys- 2d ago edited 2d ago
It's Reddit. Everything is either going to be Trump bad, Elon bad or America bad. That's what this whole website turned into. That's what this whole website is about.
It is impressive though how Reddit makes everything about America even when America isn't the subject of the post.
Edit: Of course the Echo Chamber downvotes me because I dared stray away from the hivemind LMFAO ya redditors are pathetic for real.
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u/TankWeeb 2d ago
Nah it’s fr crazy how the echo chamber absolutely rots peoples brains. People will make fun of old people on Facebook for believing AI art is real and then fall for bullshit Russian bots trying to spread misinformation about the US.
The US ain’t perfect by any means, and the government is… confusing at the moment, but it could still be a hell of a lot worse too.
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u/TransylvanianHunger1 2d ago
How dare you stray away from the far left echo chamber that is reddit! D:
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u/rustoof 2d ago
Im so fucking tired of it too. Everywhere, all the time....
Like yeah I get it. No im not going to engage in armed revolution. Can we admit theres more to the world than the american president?
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u/Activision19 1d ago
I went to a concert last night and one band’s singer stood there a couple times between songs to talk about how dark 2025 is and how we need to resist the threat to democracy. The crowd was not pleased as I live in a very deep red state. He wasn’t actively bood as far as I could hear but the cheering hype the singer was trying to get going only had maybe 10% of the crowd participating.
And no on Reddit you aren’t allowed to admit there is more to the world than America unless you are using other parts of the world as references to why America is bad or how impoverished other places are and that they need America’s help.
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u/TransylvanianHunger1 2d ago
I've unsubbed from a handful of subs because of it. It's annoying and irrelevant to so many posts.
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u/ScarryShawnBishh 2d ago
It’s relevant to life
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u/TransylvanianHunger1 2d ago
Doesn't need to be plastered everywhere I look though.
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u/ZachTheCommie 2d ago
"I'm just so tired of seeing history in motion and hearing about the fall of the American empire."
That's how you sound.
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u/TransylvanianHunger1 2d ago
That's probably not true at all.
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u/ScarryShawnBishh 2d ago
Are you saying that Donald Trump doesn’t get the low-level conspiracy theorist vote?
You sound like fake news
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u/pantadynamos 2d ago
Anyone know the source for the song?
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u/FunnyDislike 2d ago
Downloaded the vid and put it into a random song identifier from google and it's just called untitled (youtube)
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u/xxTheMagicBulleT 2d ago
To be honest a lot of big water dams we have now a days are a lot more impressive then most of the pyramids. If you think about how they got build is spots that already had fast acting raging waters going true it.
There honestly much more impressive things being build now a days then in the past.
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u/Alech1m 2d ago
I mean it's the "we can't build the rocket engines from the 60s anymore". It's way to expensive to do it the "old fashion" way. It's just cheaper to develop new tools and methods then trying to first figure out how they did it and then recreate their ways.
It's really fascinating what a basically infinite labor force without any rights, work safty standards and pay can accomplish. And all you have to do is give your middle management some whips.
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u/ZachTheCommie 2d ago
Egyptian workers were treated fairly well. They weren't worked to death like in fictional media.
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u/wildgoose-chase 2d ago
Who the fuck alleges that we can't build the pyramids today?
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u/nicholasktu 2d ago
People who haven't seen the things we build now. Anyone who had been around an integrated steel mill will realize we could pile rocks just fine.
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u/Singularcurioushuman 2d ago
Does anyone happen to know what that 2nd vid of the walking machines is? That’s awesome 🤩
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u/Electronic-Cable-772 2d ago
Walking dragline. It “walks” around the mine to new areas once’s its finished its current job cause disassembling it and putting it back together would take way longer and cost way more money.
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u/Singularcurioushuman 2d ago
Thank you sir! I found it! https://youtu.be/wm0bO-Szfn8?si=bmvBAQ0l1AHNp__D
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u/flamingo_flimango 2d ago
"We could never reach the audio quality of CDs, even with today's audio quality.". Today's audio quality:
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u/VTOLfreak 2d ago
It's not the tools that are the issue. Every large infrastructure project today is delayed by decades because of politics and lawsuits. The US wouldn't be able to build the Hoover Dam today. Meanwhile China is building mega-sized infrastructure left and right. Try protesting against a new project there and see where you end up.
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u/Groundbreaking-Bar89 2d ago
Honestly though, what they did was more impressive than building a helicopter to an extent.
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u/beastman45132 1d ago
We should just build a pyramid to prove that we can. And we will make it twice as big as the biggest one
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u/Paraselene_Tao 1d ago
We have no reason to build something like the pyramids, but we could easily build pyramids much larger and grander than the Egyptians ever could. Each year, the USA uses about 100 million tons of concrete. The Great Pyramid of Giza is about 6 million tons. We could build about 16 pyramids of Giza each year with that amount of concrete. This isn't even including all of our other building materials—steel, wood, bricks & stone, drywall, glass, insulation, roofing, and more.
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u/Loder089 2d ago
Well no engineering can't even get close to how perfect the geometry and location of the external and the complexity labyrinth of the inside of the pyramid that last for many millennium.
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u/original_cheeseman 2d ago
The James Web telescope has a mirror that is so flat, that if you would sitze it up the to the size of the Netherlands the biggest difference in hight would be 2m. Pretty sure we can carve some rocks. And I have realized you rage baited me.
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u/jus-another-juan 2d ago edited 2d ago
As an engineer I feel safe to say I'm very sure we can't do it today. It's not just about the pyramids but also the small granite vases that cannot be replicated today. They had some form of technology that would blow our minds. Granite Vase
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u/OneGladTurtle 2d ago edited 2d ago
Bro, we have been to the moon, can make custom DNA, are (somewhat) close to figuring out nuclear fusion, cloned animals, are building quantum computers, make messages smaller than a grain of rice.
And you are saying we can't make pyramids or granite vases?! Do you have any idea how unrealistic your opinion is?
Or you are not an engineer, you won your degree in a raffle, or something else went wrong. If I had to hire an engineer, and he would tell me he didn't think we could build pyramids, I wouldn't hire him.
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u/Foamrule 2d ago
The dude claims to be a developer using c++....so at best, he's a conspiracy nut software dev, though i suppose "an engineer" sounds better when you're trying to sell crackpot theories lol.
As a /mechanical/ engineer...yeah it's actually really simple to move big heavy shit and make fancy looking stuff, even without pneumatics or electricity lol.
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u/nicholasktu 2d ago
Just takes time, material and labor. The straight lines are easy, use string and posts, the same way many buildings are laid out today.
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u/ewyorksockexchange 2d ago
The methods used to construct the pyramids are known. We could do it today, but we won’t, because those methods are incredibly inefficient in a world where concrete is cheap and engineering is much more advanced.
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u/jus-another-juan 2d ago
Ahh yes, the ole 100000 slaves and a ramp larger than the pyramid itself method. And they used coper picks to slowly quarry and precisely cut the granite blocks, right?
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u/ewyorksockexchange 2d ago
Modern historians pretty much agree that the pyramids were built by skilled tradesmen and agricultural workers who were otherwise idle during the Nile flood season, not slaves. There’s a plausible and elegant theory of construction that involves pulling blocks through the pyramids using ropes and pulleys that also explains the odd internal rooms. And copper tools, saws in particular, are effective at cutting through stone if loose sand is used as the cutting edge. It just takes a stupidly long time, which is maybe why it took 30 years to build the pyramids?
Most ancient things people claim to be impossible to do nowadays are doable with normal human ingenuity and lots of manpower in lieu of miracle technology.
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u/jus-another-juan 2d ago
Yeah, Bullshit. It doesnt matter how many historians agree. There's a huge narrative to basically cover up the fact that human progression has not been linear throughout history and it sounds like you've already bought into it. Is it scary that there was a time where we were more advanced than today? Yes, it is. But that is the logical conclusion.
To anyone who doesn't buy into the stupid copper and sand argument, you can unchartedX on youtube. There's no way anyone with more than 10 brain cells can see the evidence of advanced technology and continue to believe they didn't have computers and extremely advanced machinery/tooling.
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u/ewyorksockexchange 2d ago edited 2d ago
I would love it if ancient peoples had incredible but lost technology that enabled them to shape and levitate rocks and build the pyramids. I’m like Houdini and spiritualism in that I want to believe but need real evidence.
If these tools and computers as we understand them now existed in the far past, why do we see no evidence in the archaeological record? Where are the tailings and waste piles from mining and refining the materials? Why are there no discarded parts around in ancient landfills, and no mention of them in written records? Where are the tools needed to make these tools? Did the entire industrial complex of ancient advanced tech just up and vanish?
If there was some kind of conspiracy, it’d have to predate our modern understanding of this tech. Weird finds would have been mentioned somewhere by 17th, 18th, 19th century tomb raiders who would have had no idea of what those things were. They would have been precious artifacts.
It just sounds all so implausible to me since, as I said, the things some see as impossible for the ancients can be explained simply as the product of human ingenuity and a lot of time. To declare that some lost advanced tech must have existed for the pyramids to be built dismisses all of what makes us human and belittles the genius of humanity.
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u/jus-another-juan 2d ago
No one ever mentioned mystical technology or levitating rocks bro. Not sure why you keep jumping into that line of thinking. All of your questions are answered on the unchartedX channel. You can (and should) binge watch those videos for hours and realize just how wrong your assumptions are.
Something to think about: if our civilization was wiped out tomorrow, how would a future civilization know that we had internet 15,000 years later? Suppose they went through another stone age and the very concept of internet was completely lost 15,000 years ago. Where would the evidence be for something that was so pervasive yet had no physical form? And any artifacts that used the internet wouldn't make any sense to a future civilization anyway. They might have a completely different type of technology by then that doesn't even use electricity or silicone. You can't assume that every version of human civilization rediscovers or converges on the same type of technology.
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u/zedsmith 2d ago
You’re a dumb hog if you think the internet has no physical form.
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u/jus-another-juan 2d ago
Do me a favor and point to the internet lmao. Now put the internet in a bottle and preserve it for 15,000 years lol you're a joke dude.
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u/Foamrule 2d ago
That parts easy, circuit boards. E-waste takes from decades to eons to decay, so in 15k years there will be archeological records of servers and computers. If course there will also be non-naturally occurring isotopes created from nuclear power generation, which is a necessity for advanced civilization. Now of course, you're a clown who'll just go "okay they didn't use those! They used unobtanium generators to power everything and lived in a way that left absolutely no trace!" While ignoring we have literal footprints from cavemen.
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u/Foamrule 2d ago
Exactly how much pot have you smoked in the last 24 hours?
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u/RedBullWings17 2d ago edited 2d ago
Millions of miles of underground fiber optic cables that don't rot over time. Swathes of concrete and infrastructure that absolutely dwarf any ancient city. Undersea cables. Giant landfills. FUCKING MACHINERY ON THE MOON.
Even with 15000 years of decay the evidence of our technological superiority over ancient Egypt would be hilariously obvious.
After 15000 years it would be clearly obvious that the New York metro area or Tokyo or many other cities were enormous urban areas that far exceed anything we've seen from any ancient civilization.
EDIT because I want to bring up more examples of technology that will still be identifiable after 15000 years of decay.
The 3 gorges dam, large chemical/petroleum plants and refineries, the Large Hadron Collider, large bridges and more.
They won't be intact or functional, but they will leave very clear evidence of what they once were
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u/guardedDisruption 2d ago
Sometimes these past few weeks, they FINALLY took LIDAR images below the pyramids, and boy, the power plant theory is looking like its going to become the most plausible explanation for the pyramids besides the tomb theory.
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u/jus-another-juan 2d ago
Some people just cannot accept the truth but I'm tuned in for it. Why do you think there has been such a drive to push false narratives about ancient Egyptian tech?
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u/guardedDisruption 2d ago
Just to keep the status quo is my guess. Academia absolutely HATES being wrong. Nut I'm sure there could be a bigger issue to it.
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u/jus-another-juan 2d ago
Well, imagine the chaos that would ensue if people found out that a giant flood really did wipe out all of humanity. What would be the point of getting up, going to work, and having children to continue the cycle if it could all just be wiped away again at any moment.
I think people like elon musk know this is a humanities biggest issue and are working to get us off the planet before it happens again.
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u/spagoot-has-infected 2d ago
Well, imagine the chaos that would ensue if people found out that a giant flood really did wipe out all of humanity.
We already found out that an asteroid wiped out 75% of all life on Earth and no chaos has ensued
What would be the point of getting up, going to work, and having children to continue the cycle if it could all just be wiped away again at any moment.
Yeah, what would the point of it all be, if an asteroid were to hit Earth again and wipe us out at any moment? Oh wait, humans are still continuing with their daily activities
I think people like elon musk know this is a humanities biggest issue and are working to get us off the planet before it happens again
And what exactly makes you think that disasters don't happen on other planets and that they're safe havens? Mars for one is constantly plagued by sand storms. It gets struck by asteroids and other bodies much more often than Earth, due to its thinning atmosphere, which, by the way, offers no protection from UV radiation
In short, you have no idea what you're talking about
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u/theusualsteve 1d ago
You cant use "LIDAR" to penetrate the ground lmfao
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u/guardedDisruption 1d ago edited 1d ago
I dont believe they were using LIDAR to penetrate the ground dude. They were using it to map the areas that were originally unaccessible and couldn't be reached due to the size of ingress.
Edit:clarification
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u/funkyduck72 2d ago
You lost me at "modern historians"
One day these clowns will consult ACTUAL engineers, logistics professionals and qualified tradespeople. Until then, they're all talking out their necks parroting decades old nonsnese they learned from old Cecil B DeMille films.
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u/funkyduck72 2d ago
Okay.... now go and try build your Giza-scale pyramid with this stuff. We'll wait.
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u/AThousandBloodhounds 2d ago edited 2d ago
Well, to be fair, Egyptians did have a lot of help from the Aliens.