r/WallStreetbetsELITE • u/Fatherthinger • 9d ago
Discussion Trump says larger tariffs could be imposed on Canada, EU if they cause US 'economic harm'
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u/Specialist-Picture62 9d ago
Its so insane, he dont even have a clue how tariffs work.
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u/kaminabis 9d ago
He does. Dont attribute to incompetence what can be explained by malice.
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u/DreadingAnt 9d ago
hmmm no I think your expectations are too high for average Americans who voted for this, he is actually just stupid and it's not a meme anymore.
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u/Unable_Actuator_6643 9d ago
He does.
The goal of tariffs is to prepare his own economy for war and try to weaken their target's economy, nothing else.
It should be clear by now, he's not stupid, he's preparing for war.
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u/ReturnOfDaSnack420 9d ago
Can't believe we're all stuck with this stupid fuck who has no idea how anything works and is causing irreparable harm to this country, I can't believe America was stupid enough to vote for this guy again (yes I can)
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u/carryingmyowngravity 9d ago
I mean, all the republicans built the plan together. apparently this all has been in the works by the GOP pre trump. Even if something happens to him, you're stuck with a whole lot of other stupid fucks.
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u/Tribe303 9d ago
Senior Republicans think he's a useful idiot they can control. Ironically (or not!) this is exactly how Hitler came to power. Franz Von Pappen thought he could control Hitler, after making him chancellor. Doh! However, while Hitler was evil, Trump is just stupid.
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u/ambeldit 9d ago
I think they need an external enemy to focus all the frustration and pain he's causing to his own contry to someone else. It's in Page 1 of dictators handbook.
He has several options: 1. inmigrants 2. Canadians 3. Europeans 4. US Woke/liberals.
I think he's Still playing to see who's best.
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u/Gloomy_Yoghurt_2836 8d ago
In FL. Canadians tourists and snowbirds are facing hostility from Americans now, particularly the MAGA ones. They are being blamed for ripping g off the US and being dependent on US subsidies to survive. Being blamed for socialized medicine making healthcare in the US more expensive. Being blamed for inflation and loss of American jobs. The Republicans really are laying ground to motivate people for justification for war.
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u/Cashew3333 9d ago
And all the rest of the population is as much as stupid as those who voted for him for letting things happen without doing nothing. Some protests here and there yeah, but that’s just blowing a candle in the wind.
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u/Fragrant_Driver_5729 9d ago
I still think that the MAGA (who have no clue what’s happening) still worship the orange clown. If allowed to run again, he would win in 4 years time.
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u/Fun_Reporter9086 9d ago
This dude who incited the Jan. 6th attack because he lost, you don't think he is going to be going for the dictatorship route with the Project 2025? Lol, you'd better hope he goes away quietly in 4 years time but hope is not a strategy.
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u/ProfessorFunky 9d ago
The majority didn’t. It’s just a shame a lot decided not to vote at all. Almost 40% stayed at home. :-/
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u/Stoogenuge 9d ago
It’s straight up Russian propaganda logic.
They attack, then claim the people defending themselves are being aggressive.
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u/thereversehoudini 9d ago
This is and always has been an excuse to blame the world for not trading fairly and dropping sanctions on Russia and trading with them.
Just you watch.
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u/xscientist 9d ago
Except Russia’s economy is minuscule, about the size of Italy’s. So even if this is their dastardly evil plan, it’s incredibly stupid.
So probably true.
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u/cloudy_ft 9d ago
Why do you think he wants Greenland so bad? Trying to normalize invading another country…
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u/Dull_Wasabi_5610 9d ago
They attack, then claim the people defending themselves are being aggressive.
How dare they?????
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u/Wookiee_Magic 9d ago
So the USA is causing Canada economic harm and has destroyed the relationship but if Canada tries to save themselves he will make it worse. Gotcha.
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u/Sadrith_Mora 9d ago
Stop resisting!
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u/Reveil21 8d ago
Institutions in the U.S. are caving to monetary threats so why won't other countries bow? - Trump probably.
Meanwhile Canada is getting three Yale Profs (going to work at the Unicersity of Toronto) who specialize in authoritarianism, totalitarianism, and fascists regimes because there's not enough institutional pushback and all the signs are there.
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u/Essence-of-why 9d ago
As a Canadian...lets fucking go. I'll suffer a lower standard of living gladly to have this fuckwad destroy his own country at the same time.
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u/Dune56 9d ago
Don’t you understand? The USA is the main character of Earth and they’re allowed to bully whoever they want with impunity but if any other country tries to fight back or defend themselves that’s not allowed.
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u/Commissar_Sae 9d ago
Canada is just trying to reduce the trade deficit Trump complained so much about.
Granted they are doing it by selling to other markets rather than buying more American goods, but hey the deficit will go down.
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u/RickyMAustralia 9d ago
Panicking... starting to realise he fucked uo
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u/svt4cam46 9d ago
He's not even remotely that self aware.
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u/Wooden_Breakfast7655 9d ago
I think he does watch the news (‘news’) a lot though
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u/Agile-Candle-626 9d ago
Fox News Entertainment. MAGA have managed to isolate themselves form any non-approved news now through the use of "Fake News" tactics, meaning anything can be discounted that isnt said on fox news, and theres no reason to apply critical thinking to anything fox says, because it must be true!
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u/IHavePoopedBefore 8d ago
There was a report going around outlining the reasoning for his tariff plans.
The main takeaway is that it only works if they avoid retaliatory tariffs. The report stated to do this carefully and diplomatically over a long period of time.
Idiot is incapable of anything but blunt force aggression, so the only way his peanut brain can think to avoid retaliatory tariffs is by loud stupid threats
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u/bugged16 9d ago
Okay. Let’s do this. Let the American consumer go bankrupt paying for all these tariffs.
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u/Significant_Swing_76 9d ago
Sorry to say this, but the society who elected this ape should bare the consequences.
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u/Chambana_Raptor 9d ago
Exactly. EZ call. It's economic Darwinism -- the idiot Trumpers don't know how tariffs (or anything else) work. Anti-Trumpers do. Therefore, on average, Anti-Trumpers will end up better off and with more resources than Trumpers in a generation or two.
I'm an accelerationist now. Make them suffer for the first time in their pathetic first-world bubble lives. Take their Social Security. Take their women's rights away. Take their 401K values. Take their home values. Take their vaccines and their advanced healthcare tech. Take their safety from climate events. Take EVERYTHING.
Fuck them into the ground and then keep fucking them. Get these losers out of our gene pool...it's been a long time coming.
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u/Conan4457 9d ago
So what type of tariff will he impose when the American tourism industry loses billions because foreign tourists have no interest in being detained by ICE agents?
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u/Lopsided-Ad-3869 9d ago
Not when. It's already happening. I can tell you from a small scale perspective from a very popular tourist destination in northwest Washington State: by now we would be seeing way more Canadian plates as tourist season begins it's upward tick. I have not seen a single Canadian plate on the roads here. I'm gleefully excited for the magat small business owners here to start complaining about low numbers.
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u/strings___ 9d ago edited 9d ago
They're already whining about it to Canadians. Meanwhile 40% of them voted for Trump.
As a Canadian I have zero sympathy or fucks to give.
160 Canadians died in Afghanistan. And what do we get for it. Being told we are free loaders and our country isn't a real country. Or they laugh and say we'll become the 51st state.
Trump fucked with the wrong country, we aren't going to forget this. There's no going back to "normal"
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u/Lopsided-Ad-3869 9d ago edited 9d ago
I don't know if you mean me, but I'm not whining. I hate tourist season to begin with and I didn't vote for this unhinged POS. I'm pissed as hell that he's trying to bully Canadians (my spouse is Canadian and I have tons of Canadian friends) and other countries, and that the ICE gestapo is kidnapping people right off the street.
This entire toxic, arrogant and childish country is about to get its ass handed back to it while simultaneously imploding.
I care only about the marginalized people who will truly suffer (including me, I'm trans). Those 40% magats can take a long walk off a short pier - they'll sit in a burning building and pretend they didn't start the fire and that everything is fine.
For me, I'm fighting hard here with a lot of mutual aid groups and using my privilege the best way I can.
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u/strings___ 9d ago
I didn't mean you. I meant the tourist trap businesses.
I don't say this lightly. You should consider moving to Canada. The US is freedom in name only. Here in Canada we have freedom in practice.
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u/NSAscanner 9d ago
It’s illegal to not visit the united states
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u/AdventurousLoss3794 9d ago
But then they can shackle and detain if you are brown or from one of the ex- allies countries, like the UK, Germany and France, trying to visit the US. Heads I win, tails you lose.
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u/Unfair-Foot-4032 9d ago
Gonna be a really exciting World Cup under this regime. Especially since they share games with Canada and Mexico. Expect entire football teams getting lost at the border.
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u/reddittorbrigade 9d ago
Sounds like an insecure ex-boyfriend.
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u/Actual-Messs 9d ago
Yeah he was hopping for a "please take me back, I promess I'll change" type a answer. Instead we are getting to meet with other people and now he is mad.
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u/LysanderSpoonerDrip 9d ago
Yes this is the foreign policy equivalent to an abuser blaming the victim.
Nothing Maga does is based on consent, it's all force projection
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u/Phelixx 9d ago
As a Canadian I don’t understand. Donald’s tariffs are designed to stop US trade with the US. This hurts our economy so we look elsewhere for trade.
Now he is mad that we are not trading with the US. But the whole reason that we are not trading is he violated his own free trade agreement. It is our preference to trade with the US because they are the closest country. Also we have been closest allies for over 100 years.
At this point I don’t know what Donald wants. I’m not sure he knows what he wants. But you can’t actively attack trade with Canada and accuse Canada of not trading with you. It’s just beyond bizarre.
Also, what kind of politician writes like this.
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u/unique3 9d ago
Everything he does makes perfect sense if you view it as hes Putin's puppet and is trying to destroy the US from within.
For anyone saying hes not Putin's puppet tell me what would he do differently if he was?
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u/Essence-of-why 9d ago
Because he expects Canadian firms to drop their prices by 25%, shifting that money to government's pockets while his citizens pay the same as they do now. He then uses that 25% to lower taxes for the rich. Thats how they think this will play out...turns out most of the world is saying fuck that noise.
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u/Tribe303 9d ago
He's destabilizing our economy to annex us. Why the fuck don't people see that? It's so fucking obvious.
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u/milelongpipe 9d ago
So in other words, if anyone outdoes Trump in causing harm to the US, he will cause greater harm to us. Did I get this right?
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u/ZombieTheRogue 9d ago
America Made their bed, and can now lay in it. We will form new alliances. All great empires crumble, we are watching America in real time. I get to watch it all with the sun on my skin up in cottage country in Ontario.
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u/JRome19921993 9d ago
Step 1. Create a problem
Step 2. Blame Canada for your problem
Step 3. Pretend to solve the problem while screwing over your own constituents to look tough
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u/celebratorycremation 9d ago
Now we can have a feedback loop where tariffs cause economic decline so he imposes more causing further decline.
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u/No-Media236 9d ago
How very Trump-like to accuse Canada and EU of causing economic harm to the US when they limit the degree of economic harm that MAGA insanity causes to them… Instead of admitting that MAGA insanity causes economic harm to the US, Canada and EU.
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u/Zieprus_ 9d ago
The world needs to turn their back on the US until the man child is out.
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u/Appropriate_End952 9d ago
If the world turns their back it won’t end once Trump is out. The US has proven it is an unreliable partner and who is going to want to work with a country that willingly elected in a lunatic twice. The world can’t trust the US to not do the same thing the next time egg prices get high. It might be a new lunatic but it will be the same playbook.
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u/fullfuckingforce 9d ago
Well put. This asshole and his cronies have ruined US’ reputation and foreign relations for a long time.
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u/cybherpunk 9d ago
I've had enough already. (Sigh.) I wish he would just stop talking and just play golf until 2028. It's a cringe festival since January 20. I know this sounds entitled but I just can't anymore.
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u/OCVoltage 9d ago
Dudes causing more economic harm on his own country than anyone else. Narcissist behaviour.
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u/itkovian 9d ago
It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Impose things that hurt the economy and when it gets hurt, increase those things.
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u/Durable_me 9d ago
We here in the EU and also Canada already are boycotting products for the US. (and that's just consumers, regular people). The EU government still has to take countermeasures, they will be devastating to the US.
Just wait until the next economic data gets available, you'll all shit bricks....
And after that Trump will impose new tariffs for sure, to punish the evil EU and Canada.
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u/splintered-soul 9d ago
I think it will come down to it that all these countries ignore anything that comes out of his mouth and will find anyone but the US to deal with, it’s not worth the headache he causes daily.
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u/Dazzling-Strain-1274 9d ago
The genius doesn’t understand that 25% is already enough to cause importers to look elsewhere for suppliers for most things. 35,50,75,100% doesn’t matter unless it’s on something the US can’t get domestically or somewhere else. Threatening people to not focus on trading with other partners because you’re retarded isn’t gonna work here.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Toe3388 9d ago
This confirms it. He thinks he's the president of planet Earth. 🫢
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u/Fabulous_Result_3324 9d ago
If the shit I do to fuck up my county, fucks up my country, I will double down and make sure I fuck it up even harder!
Dude is trying to start a war. Period. That's the goal here.
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u/Optimal-Hospital-366 9d ago
Trump is just making up numbers. He'll lose the US so much money with this.
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u/HerrFledermaus 9d ago
Message from Europe to the Orange Diaper Dictator: up yours.
That dude is an insult for humanity.
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u/sPLIFFtOOTH 9d ago
Says the guy who started the trade war….
The EU and Canada are not colluding against America; they are reacting to the trade war that Trump started.
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u/leighleg 9d ago
Please do add more tariffs to cause more harm to the American people. I can't get my head round how Trump is trying to tell the American people it's the people seeling the products that will lose money, yes we may sell less, but we'll buy even less than that. But America will America.
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u/marcolius 9d ago
Lmao, adds $6000+ to the cost of a car, but it's other countries causing the problem. Enjoy the lunacy Murica!
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u/extrastupidone 9d ago
There is 8 B people on this planet. The US has 350M
There is only so long that the rest of the world will just say, yaknow what? It's easier to just not deal with them. There is NOTHING the US makes that the rest of the world doesn't.
Good luck.
And good luck selling your shit after burning every bridge except the one to Russia
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u/purchase-the-scaries 9d ago
So....
"Don't retaliate to our tariffs. If you do we will increase them even more."
I hope he does increase it.
Increase it 200%.
Canada and EU should look to other countries for support as much as possible to minimize the damage.
America can look to ... what? Oh right they will build and produce everything that they ever needed from the day the tariff hits. So no issues American consumers. It won't impact you. It doesn't take long to produce your own goods to make up for everything. /s.
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u/Annahsbananas 9d ago
I work in a major distribution hub. Trump is absolutely destroying the US with this because every tariff charge gets filtered down to the customer.
I see it happening to millions of dollars in tariffs everyday and they literally get invoiced all the down to the customer.
Trump is an idiot
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u/TurtleMode 8d ago
Haha he is the one that imposed Tariffs on Canada and the EU, how are they causing economic harm?? He is… he is the one that is causing economic harm to the US!
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u/StrongCelery 8d ago
Did he expect us to roll over and die the pillock? I do hope the EU goes after services from the US. Hit them in the pocket hardest and possibly the easiest to replace within the EU. Either way I am content with a few bumpy years to divest ourselves of reliance on a clearly unreliable warmongering country. I do really hope President Macron gets his way of butting European only what a fantastic trade stimulus that will be.
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u/Squirrel_on_caffeine 8d ago
This whole country is run by complete idiots elected by idiots who are proud to be idiots.
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u/Nuppys 9d ago
When do we reach the end of the process and the bombs start to rain? Let's end this once and for all? I wonder what it will take for the Americans to start reacting. I tell myself that if their soldiers start killing Greenlanders and Canadians and let the Russians attack all of Europe, they might demonstrate like they did in Vietnam.
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u/NewRespond6650 9d ago
I wish I could believe Americans would react, but it seems there are plenty of people completely on board with this nightmare. I know it is an overused metaphor, but MAGA truly has many characteristics of a cult.
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u/Agile-Candle-626 9d ago
different generation, My generation and younger have lost the spine to make massive changes. They would rather watch Netflix and Youtube videos of others playing games and watch their country fall into oblivion.
European young generations are not much better though, so Russia might steam roll through regardless of any increase in budget as they might just not get any recruits.
Comfort breeds indifference and the West has been to comfortable for too long
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u/rainman4500 9d ago
Well if we cause harm to the USA he can invoke article 5 so we have to defend him.
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u/SideBet2020 9d ago
Executive orders are now 25% more expensive as patriots have imposed a tariff on stupidity.
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u/N1nfang 9d ago
The US could balance out trading if it concentrated on being more efficient, ahead or cost effective. You cannot force people to buy from you if you’re the most expensive of options without also having an edge.
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u/2nd-wind 9d ago
Donald Trump: I'm going to lay a beating on you. I expect you to take it passively. If you attempt to defend yourself or fight back, I will beat you even worse.
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u/SnooDingos8812 9d ago
Fear , fear, fear, fear, the land of the brave (indigenous only need apply), usurped by the fearful. Who knew?
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u/HalloMotor0-0 9d ago
One day, the dumb hillbilly MAGAs found they can’t even afford a car in where there is almost no public transportation they live, haha, and it’s all Biden’s fault!
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u/Sure-Sea2982 9d ago
The only person causing economic harm is Trump.
Maybe he should apply a tariff to himself?