You’d be surprised how many voters knew nothing about Kamala other than what MAGA social media and FOX news told them about her.
Americans are used to seeing presidential candidates for at least 2 years before voting for them. The primary process and the stories that arise from that are vital towards informing voters.
Giving the lady you just stuck in the closet for 4 years less than 6 months to run for president was a short sighted move by the entire party and demonstrated their inability to be decisive.
Biden was a good president and millions of Americans did vote MAGA for all the wrong reasons. That doesn’t take away from the fact that his admin failed to set up the next generation of his party for success.
The only people who watch FucksNews are those who would have voted for trump anyway. There is no excuse for voting for him unless you were aligned with his message of hate. This wasn’t an election between two candidates who had similar views and policies, it was one where the difference could not have been greater. Voting for the orange racist rapist was a conscious decision to want what he wanted for America, the destruction of everything that stood in the way of white supremacy.
You’re giving way too much credit to the average American and their knowledge of current events, civics and way the world works.
Most news watchers watch Fox News. They are the largest cable news network by a really significant margin.
The average American cannot name all 3 branches of government, let alone understand how our government is being taken over by a white supremacist, corporate oligarchy. Those are all just a bunch of big words.
FOX News and MAGA succeed because they use plain language and give their viewers a clear enemy to blame their problems on. Simple minded people like this rhetoric because it gives them a free pass to say “my life is a mess and everyone hates me but it’s not my fault.”
Too many leading Democrats fail to realize they’re talking to a population that doesn’t value intelligence. When they go on cable TV speaking like Harvard professors while avoiding podcasts and other internet channels, it makes it super easy for MAGA to put whatever words in their mouth they want.
If Dems cared about winning, they’d be on FOX news every day and Joe Rogan once a month supporting economically populist policies and laughing off weird conspiracy accusations.
Instead Kamala ran on fucking tax credits that would only help already well off families and other vague economic ideas that would do little more than slightly soften the status quo. Americans unanimously want change and Trump represents radical change. You can’t run on a status quo platform against that.
Republicans have been pulling the same tricks since Reagan. Nothing Trump did leading up to the election was remotely surprising. It’s certainly Biden’s, Harris’, and the rest of the party’s fault that they continue to ignore this reality while pursuing palatable but still overwhelmingly corporatist legislation.
Republicans have been pulling the same tricks since Reagan.
Time & time again far right fascists rise to power by taking control of whatever media is the most popular form of media at the time, that reaches the young male.
This fact goes all the way back to the invention of almanacs
That’s the problem. The electorate is made up mostly of morons who look at adds about immigrants eating pets and believe that they are facing an existential crisis.
Who the hell is excusing them in this thread? You're arguing against a bizarre strawman. We're talking about the pragmatic realities of winning an election in the US. Which is a pretty good thing to focus on when you don't want someone like Trump in charge.
Everyone blaming Biden is excusing those who voted for the orange racist rapist. If Biden had run I would have had no problem voting for him. I would not have voted for Trump making up the excuse that Biden was too old because his age was irrelevant compared to the absolute evil incompetent idiot that I knew we would get. So yes, blaming Biden is a fucking this excuse!!
Everyone blaming Biden is excusing those who voted for the orange racist rapist
Once again, you're literally arguing against a strawman. I'm allowed to criticize Biden. Criticizing Biden doesn't mean I let the people who voted for Trump off the hook. Why would you even think that? Your thought process makes zero sense.
I'd sure better not criticize Schumer either! His failures are totally not his fault. Criticizing any Democracts and their failure to fight against Trump is just an excuse!
Who cares if you criticize Biden. Nothing wrong with that. Just don’t say this is why you voted for the orange racist rapist. Anyone who did, did so because they wanted to vote for the orange racist rapist, not because Biden was “old”.
Most voters are morons. That is a fact of life that has to be accepted. You can't blame a moron for being a moron any more than you can blame a dog for being a dog. Expecting morons to suddenly become thoughtful political experts is not just unreasonable, it's insane.
Joe Biden, on the other hand, is an accomplished career politician. It is more than reasonable to expect him to make better political decisions. The same goes for DNC party leadership.
It wouldn’t have made a difference. People who voted for Trump wanted to vote for him and they turned out in large numbers. Didn’t matter who was on the other side. Trump had the best electoral performance of anyone in the last four decades except for Biden and Obama 2008.
It’s not ignorance, it’s a willingness to hate, to believe that the reason that problems exist, is due to immigrants, Xans people, gays, blacks, academics, intellectuals, LGBT, or whoever they come up with to victimize. This has always been part of the American culture and will get worse before it gets better.
The democrats always had an uphill battle because the electorate doesn’t understand economics and inflation, which was made somewhat worse due to structural issues in the modern American economy. However, this wasn’t not the reason the orange racist rapist won, it would have been the reason for Nikki or little Ronny, both of whom were vastly better options, bad but not horrible, but they both lost convincingly to the guy with “concepts of a plan”. He didn’t win on economics, he won on Xans kids playing sports and immigrants eating pets. This wasn’t what drove 77 million Americans to the polls. The second highest vote total by a candidate ever. This was not an accident, it is who we are.
Totally. Maybe I should’ve phrased it better, I was trying to say that most people only care about politics insofar as they’re perceived to affect gas and grocery prices.
Oh yeah you got your point across I understood you. I was just saying that I’ve seen recently that if Fox News tells them that groceries are cheap, they will pretend they’re not paying $9 for eggs at the grocery store. It’s insane
You gotta meet the people where they are 🤷♂️ Biden didn’t make them stupid, he inherited them that way. It’s up to him and his party to figure out how to tell them they’re trying to help.
So far they haven’t even tried throwing shit at the wall.
I guess you're right, I just am so furious at the sneering, condescending stupidity of the average american. Like they destroy the country and their own futures thinking they are gonna own the lib
Naw don't give that guy any credit, people who think like that are half the problem.
Biden was a good president, he did the job he was elected to do very well.
He was not a great president, he was not a historical figure who saved our country from Trumpism.
But he was a good president. Holding someone up to a very high standard and using that to criticize them and say how terrible they were for not being great is the kind of "both sides" bullshit that allowed Trump into power.
America is MAGA vs not-MAGA. Either you oppose Trump and support those who oppose him or you are complicit. I know these "I'm so much smarter than everyone because I don't pick sides" folks like the hubris of standing aside and criticizing but they are hole watchers, they don't do any of the actual work to make things better.
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u/WhiteNikeAirs 8d ago
You’d be surprised how many voters knew nothing about Kamala other than what MAGA social media and FOX news told them about her.
Americans are used to seeing presidential candidates for at least 2 years before voting for them. The primary process and the stories that arise from that are vital towards informing voters.
Giving the lady you just stuck in the closet for 4 years less than 6 months to run for president was a short sighted move by the entire party and demonstrated their inability to be decisive.
Biden was a good president and millions of Americans did vote MAGA for all the wrong reasons. That doesn’t take away from the fact that his admin failed to set up the next generation of his party for success.