r/WallStreetbetsELITE 4d ago

Loss That just Crazy BRO

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u/Negido 4d ago

If your time horizon is 5+ years then honestly this is a great situation to buy into. I've increased my contributions since we started tanking.

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u/TailDragger9 4d ago

Only if you can somewhat accurately predict the bottom. If the worst case happens, entire investment firms, and their funds could go belly-up. There's literally nobody alive who remembers the last time the economy was truly bad in the US. We've been in sheltered waters for a hundred years.

Buckle up, everyone, this might be a rough ride.

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u/Negido 4d ago

I'm not predicting the bottom. I am DCA'ing into a downward trend.

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u/-boatsNhoes 4d ago

In this scenario, DCA'ing is like micro dosing catching a falling knife.

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u/More-Molasses3532 4d ago

If it's a broad market etf it should work. The risk is if it goes so far south that the etf implodes and stops trading.

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u/Delanorix 4d ago

Hard times make hard men.

Turns out the opposite is true as well.

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u/OrneTTeSax 3d ago

2008? Nearly all of the 70’s? Saving and Loan in the 80s. Late 90s Dot Com bust and post-9/11? Plenty of people have seen bad economies.

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u/TailDragger9 3d ago

I've been through all of those except the 70's. Those were only bad when compared with the essentially fantastic times we have enjoyed for such a long time. I meant actual bad economies.

Great depression.

1920's Germany

China's "great leap forward"

1930's Soviet Union famine

Those scenarios are what can happen when leadership decides to make drastic "improvements" of an economic system and causing drastic unintended consequences. If our current course isn't corrected, and soon, we could be begging for an economy as good as the savings and loan crisis. I'm taking 25%+ unemployment, food lines, hyperinflation, real societal crisis - type things.

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u/HedonisticFrog 4d ago

Who knows where the bottom will be though, or if it will recover.

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u/capitol_cavier 4d ago

It will never recover we are all doomed!!! Lmao

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u/Negido 4d ago

Are you suggesting that he is going to single handedly end all future bull runs? Why wouldn't I increase contributions? My time horizon is 30 years.

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u/JackryanUS 4d ago

Well if he sinks the dow down to 20,000 and you're increasing your investments now future bull runs may just lessen your massive losses rather than put you ahead. If the dow goes that low and it's back up to 30,000 in 5 years you're still fucked hard.

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u/mountainunicycler 4d ago edited 4d ago

What‽ that’s now how that works at all.

Dow is 40k right now. If it slides down for three years to 20k and then rises to 30k in the two years after that, and you buy in weekly, you’ll be up 14%

Not great, but your portfolio would be positive.

A better case scenario would be a fast crash from 40k to 20k within one year, and then four years climbing back to 30k. In that case you’d be up 20% at the end of five years. If you bought $100 per week over those hypothetical five years you would invest $26,000 and have an ending value of $31,263.

That’s literally the entire point of DCA instead of lump sum, and the odds of beating inflation are very good.

Obviously, if you sell everything now and perfectly know the bottom and you invest everything at the bottom you’d be up 50% but the whole point is nobody knows the bottom, so your odds of a positive return are better if you aim for the near-certain 20% instead of trying to time the 50% which hypothetically is possible by buying the correct one day out of 1,825 days (assuming an even distribution where every day is equally likely to be the bottom, which is obviously wrong but you see the point).

But obviously, only the trump team knew the top (because they caused the crash) so they’re already way out ahead of the odds we have via DCA.

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u/Pure_Bee2281 4d ago

You are assuming that MAGA loses in 2028. These policies can be continued. . .

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u/Negido 4d ago

I have a 30 year time horizon. I increase contributions whenever we are trending downwards. I'm not trying to catch the knife.

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u/Pure_Bee2281 4d ago

That's fine. I was responding to your five year time horizon comment.

AND the fact that if maintained these tariffs could keep economic (and stock) growth way down resulting in very low returns for decades.

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u/Negido 4d ago

Scared money don’t make no money.

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u/Pure_Bee2281 4d ago

I'm still a bull but I'm aware that there were bulls in the Weimar Republic too

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u/A3815 4d ago

It took decades to recover from the Great Depression.

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u/Negido 4d ago

I see, so if you think we are going to crash that hard have you gone short the market?

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u/A3815 3d ago

I'm not that sophisticated. I went 50% cash in January. I'm good with 4.5%

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u/TheNuttyGinger 3d ago

And a World War. Just sayin.

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u/pcoutcast 4d ago edited 3d ago

I hope your time horizon is 25+ years because the US is about the break the record of the great depression for recovery time, if it ever recovers.

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