r/WallStreetbetsELITE • u/astrawberryandakiwi • 20h ago
Discussion He’s 100% aware of what he’s doing. He reshared this:
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u/spuriousattrition 19h ago
Chess?
Tic tac toe is too complicated for Trump.
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u/GMN123 17h ago
You could give him a 3 move head start and he wouldn't win.
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u/GBJI 17h ago
Elon: "I'll take the X's"
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u/dieselgenset 15h ago
I'm a certified Dad of 3 and an avid dad joke enthusiast.... this made my eyes roll so far the earth is now flat. Well done.
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u/nowtayneicangetinto 16h ago
Would claim the game is rigged and try to gaslight you by saying it a million times
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u/AccomplishedLeave506 15h ago
Give him a 3 move head start and he'd probably accidentally get himself into checkmate before you got to have a turn.
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u/unique3 17h ago
Trump is playing chess like a Pigeon. He'll knock over the pieces, shit on the board and then strut around like hes the winner.
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u/ithinkiknowstuphph 16h ago
Mouse trap because every time you set that freaking game up it’s starts doing the Rube Goldberg and you need to start all over then you say f it and don’t play
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u/newnameonan 13h ago
And if he's playing chess while everyone is playing checkers, then he's a fucking idiot and playing the wrong game. And he won't win because he's not following the right rules.
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u/e_hota 19h ago
Of course he is. Drive down stocks and then buy them up. These guys are all criminals who need to be sent to El Salvador.
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u/dosassembler 18h ago
Economic collapse.-->civil unrest-->martial law-->dictator for life.
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u/bleu_flp 18h ago
Can already feel the consent being manufactured for when we inevitably go to war
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u/Lucky_Diver 18h ago
The number of people who suddenly hate Canada is insane.
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u/Angrbodaa 12h ago
This. My coworker all of a sudden comes in and bitches about Canadian drivers and how they should gtfo. Never once mentioned them before. Fucking sheep
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u/vsmack 18h ago
Man I'm Canadian and we're thinking of moving to Brazil.
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u/AlarisMystique 15h ago
Man I am Canadian and thinking of buying guns so I can die fighting Nazis if it comes down to this.
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u/SeVenMadRaBBits 17h ago
I'm sure all these military soldiers will want to support a man who's making their families struggle...
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u/Iammax7 16h ago
You should add the blame it on the left, rinse and repeat.
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u/Lermanberry 14h ago
This is the real play.
The architects of Project 2025 explicitly want to create conditions similar to the Treaty of Versailles/Great Depression economy in the Weimar Republic. Easier to get their violent rubes fighting against economic boogeymen. The economy crashed but it's not because of savior Trump, it's Biden and Canada and the Muslims.
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u/DenseReality6089 17h ago
Or
Economic collapse, civil unrest, martial law, military coup, revolution2.0, ???, utopia
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u/buitragosoft 17h ago
He is old af and looks awfully. Can he survive 4 more years even?
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u/TheStilken 17h ago
If you think about it, they're just taking the knowledge that Democrats fix the economy when in office. So, why not tank it, buy everything cheap, then let the Democrats fix the market and do the heavy lifting of making you rich?
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u/stevez_86 15h ago
It's just punishment. Everyone always made arguments for him. The only thing I see is him punishing the country that has made the last 8 years of his life so frustrating. His freedom was on the line and he had to spend everything, broker everything to get back in office. He is already known as an abuser, I don't understand why people want to make any excuse for this other than vicious vindictiveness.
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u/santropy 18h ago
This bozo has no idea what he is doing. He just wants people to think he is playing a long game, a 3-D chess.
Remember, this idiot bankrupted a casino and even when the rule of thumb is the house always wins.
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u/Morgan-Explosion 16h ago
Most chess is 3D
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u/usrnamechecksout_ 15h ago
Did you know you can play chess on phones, tablets, and computers? What a time to be alive.
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u/BigDaddySteve999 15h ago
The game of chess takes place on a grid of squares that exists in two dimensions. Regardless of the physical implementation of the game, the squares and the pieces occupying those squares, as far as the rules are concerned, exist in a mathematically perfect square of ranks and files on a plane, with no consideration for vertical height of any kind. The squares are two different colors for visual convenience, but all piece placement and movement could be described without reference to square color. The pieces are two different colors to distinguish those belonging to each of the two players, but that isn't a dimension along which players have any control.
This is in contrast to the originally fictional game of 3D chess shown in the original series of Star Trek.
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u/joerelativity 20h ago
The king's friends must have known beforehand and ended up leaving the market in time.
The ones who will pay the price are the Americans who put their hard-earned wealth in the stock market and, of course, the Americans who will pay all these import tariffs.
Everything is expensive in America while the rest of the world enjoys cheaper trade.
The obvious thing happened: the president, a friend of Russia, who only cares about billionaires and makes everything more expensive for Americans.
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u/Yami350 18h ago
He gave everyone fair warning. I still don’t get what more needed to be said. The guy gave a date and everything.
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u/That_Is_Satisfactory 17h ago
He could have just easily reversed course at the last second, too, because it’s Trump and he’s an idiot. It’s not that easy.
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u/Housthat 16h ago
Yeah, I was expecting him to undo his mess the next day like he had been doing with Mexico. The wound continues to bleed so now we're at risk of an actual depression now.
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u/ItchyAge3135 16h ago
Yeah I still wouldn’t be surprised if he at least partially undoes some of this at some point. If the right peoples’ stocks suffer too much, he’ll risk losing support. Although at this point maybe he doesn’t even care.
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u/really_hate_Ifunny 16h ago
Dude does not give a fuck, these
Americansgoldfish already gave him his second term he's free to do as he pleases since he's either not getting elected again or he's giving himself a third term6
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u/MooseBoys 14h ago
the king's friends must have known beforehand
Eagerly awaiting May 17 which is the deadline for politicians to file their trade disclosures for April 2. Ah who am I kidding, like anyone cares about laws anymore.
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u/HGDuck 14h ago
Yeah, could be pretty obvious when you look at who has been selling billions in stocks for the last couple months.... Like another old dude... With a 300 billion cash pile ready to buy back in... I mean it doesn't get more obvious than that: https://fortune.com/2025/04/04/berkshire-hathaway-warren-buffett-president-donald-trump-truth-social-oracle-omaha-video-economic-moves-facebook-twitter-tiktok/
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u/mymomsaidicould69 16h ago
Yeah my 401k value has dipped and so has my children's 529 college savings funds. These are real lives that are being destroyed.
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u/Rabble_Runt 20h ago
Elon even said they planned to do this before Trump took office.
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u/Mikerk 17h ago
They're doing everything they said they would do and people are still caught off guard
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u/BodomDeth 17h ago
Yes, because what they’re doing is so bad and illegal that people thought it’s part of all the other bullshit they say.
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u/arjomanes 17h ago
I don't think anything they say is bullshit. It's tariffs, deportations, and government defunding and layoffs now. But Greenland and Canada aren't just empty threats.
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u/usrnamechecksout_ 15h ago
I don't think anything they say is bullshit.
He literally said he would lower prices on day 1. And that the stock market was at all-time highs because it knew he was about to be elected.
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u/Toes_In_The_Soil 17h ago
They're caught off guard because they thought tariffs are a tax on foreign countries, not on the American consumer.
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u/Fortune_Fus1on 17h ago
The thing is, everything that comes out of Trump amd especially Elon's mouths is a big fat lie, the fact that the one time these psychos are telling the truth is when they say they will crash the global economy is insanity
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u/DrSpacecasePhD 14h ago
“He’s not going to implement Project 2025 guys. He just flew on a private jet with those guys a few times and praised them in the past. The golden age is coming just watch”
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u/kootenaypow 18h ago
Purposely crashing the economy while blaming Biden.
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u/Quirky-Bag-4158 18h ago
Let’s be real, there’s plenty of people that would buy that narrative. It’s insane.
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u/eamonious 14h ago
Imagine thinking this dude is tight, even as he bloodlets your life savings into his wealth transfer scheme, illegally centralizes fiscal budget under his executive authority, and actively tells you he’s doing it.
Just send him your wife while you’re at it.
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u/Reflectioneer 19h ago
How many people think Trump even knows how to play chess?
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u/MaxCapacity 18h ago
He's just amplifying a conspiracy theory that he thinks helps him. Haitians eating pets, anyone? Guy is a moron, he had no plan. These tariffs were obviously thrown together at the last minute when he realized nobody was going to come begging him for mercy.
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u/agate_ 17h ago
Which is more likely?
1) Trump has a secret evil genius plan ... which he retweets as soon as someone figures it out? Or
2) Trump is an idiot who retweets anything that makes him look smart?
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u/Cookiejam02 17h ago
3) Trump is an idiot who follows plans which smarter and even more evil people have designed (guys like Thiel, Vance, etc.)
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u/damog_88 13h ago
This is the right answer. Now we have to think: Who are the ones making profit from crashing the economy?
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u/one_listener 18h ago
He’s been clear on this since like the 80s. He just thinks tariffs are good and trade deficits are bad. This is like the one thing he’s been consistent on his whole life. All these recent justifications did not influence him back then. There is no master plan.
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u/Doggoonewild 18h ago
Said it before, will say it again… as someone well off, it was obvious from the beginning this would only benefit well off people.
No I didn’t vote for it.
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u/bighomiej69 16h ago
No that’s what you guys don’t understand
There’s no plan here, he doesn’t even have a phone, an intern or staffer tweeted that
He tariffed an island with no people on it. Laura Loomer got him to fire a team of national security officials.
He’s actually this stupid. It’s like your drunk uncle that watches newsmax is running the government.
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u/tdolomax 16h ago
He's really not. He's tried to pin this on Joe Biden several times today alone. He's grabbing at straws to seem like he knows what he's doing.
He doesn't have a clue
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u/ryandury 18h ago
Imagine the amount of TDS you need to say 'Trump is playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers."
This is the truest form of TDS I have seen. It's always been a projection.
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u/monoimionom 17h ago
Why is it legal that a president can act against the economic interests of his country?
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u/Snowflake8552 16h ago
More like Trump is playing golf while the reality tv stars he put in office pretend to act like they know what their doing
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u/harrywrinkleyballs 20h ago
Ask economists what the impetus is for these tariffs.
They’re a tool. Will anybody deny the fact that Trump has been exerting pressure on JP and the Federal Reserve to lower interest rates?
Lower interest rates will help trump refinance the debt. Lower cost of the debt service will excuse further tax cuts… for the billionaire and all of his fellow billionaires in his cabinet.
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u/Greedy-Bag-3640 18h ago
you don't lower interest rates when prices are rising. He's creating stagflation and the fed can't do anything about that
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u/Aioli_Tough 15h ago
Actually, rates will lower because, prices rise, consumers don’t buy and save up, and the fed to get that money in the system again, lower interest rates.
Are low interest rates good ?
Are they so good you need to force stagflation as you said, No.
Pre-covid America had hit a sweet spot with good growth, low interest, but the orange fuck ruined that when he mishandled the pandemic.
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u/harrywrinkleyballs 19h ago edited 19h ago
Steven Miller was on TV whining about how there was no income tax until Woodrow Wilson was president.
I expect the administration to promote IRS § 861 argument next.
https://taxfoundation.org/blog/wesley-snipes-and-861-argument/
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u/ChuyStyle 15h ago
The world dont work like that because .... the rest of the world can operate on their own and retailiate in ways that the fed cant save.
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u/Southern_Character94 17h ago
So using the office of the president to artificially crash the stock market for personal gain?
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u/Impenza 17h ago
Isn't he just purposely creating a recession to lower interest rates? The reserve will lower interest rates if America enters into a recession. Didn't he make all his money on commercial restate in NY in the 90s? So he's probably getting killed right now as interest rates are so high. I'm not American so correct me if I'm wrong.
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u/LadyLovesRoses 16h ago
You’re right. Today he is criticizing Powell because he hasn’t lowered the rates.
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u/Thain-Of-The-Shire 16h ago
This is my new excuse whenever I f*ck up 😂.
“Don’t worry guys, it’s all part of my master plan.”
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u/rkaminky 15h ago
He's so smart, people love when you crash the economy and drain 10% of their retirement funds.
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u/ForbodingWinds 10h ago
10%? It'll be much more than that before this is over, lol. A lot of the republican boomers about to retire are gonna learn a hard lesson.
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u/rube_X_cube 18h ago
Ok, then news outlets should say it plainly: Trump is purposely crashing the market.
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u/No-Spend7365 17h ago
Donald Trump is a disgrace to democracy. His entire political career has been built on lies, division, and an obsession with his own ego. He has spent years undermining trust in institutions, spreading conspiracy theories, and attacking anyone who dares to criticize him. Instead of leading with integrity, he fuels hatred, racism, and chaos—all while pretending to be the savior of the very country he continues to tear apart.
His handling of crises, from the pandemic to international relations, has been nothing short of catastrophic. He doesn't care about ordinary people; he only cares about himself, his wealth, and his power. He has turned politics into a circus, where corruption and incompetence are rewarded, and truth is buried under a mountain of propaganda.
The United States, once a symbol of democracy, has become nothing more than a banana republic, where the rule of law is trampled by the powerful, and justice is a joke. Trump has turned the country into a place where lies triumph over facts, criminals walk free if they have enough influence, and elections are questioned not based on evidence but on the whims of a wannabe dictator.
Even after leaving office, he continues to poison American society with his lies about the election, stoking violence and division for his own gain. The fact that so many still support him is a terrifying testament to how deeply he has infected the political landscape. Trump is not a leader—he is a national disaster, and history will remember him as one of the most destructive figures in American politics.
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u/Fair_Cartoonist_7559 3h ago
Definitely Trump is an infection for which there is currently no easy cure.
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u/robthethrice 15h ago
No. The market crashed because he’s an idiot. Then he claimed he did it on purpose because he’s a toddler.
Think for even a second.. the stock market has always been his measure of success.
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u/DrewHaef 10h ago
No. Brainwashed Trump sycophants literally spoon feed him excuses and reasoning behind his 3rd grade logic, and he cherry picks whatever he think makes him look smarter. And in this bizarroworld that we now live in, a US president literally manipulating the global economy to get the rich richer is somehow admirable to his wannabe rich middle class lemmings.
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u/Easy_Rooster8000 16h ago
I found an amazing tactic to piss of MAGA. When you run into a MAGA moron who is defending a 2000 point loss in the stock market. Just stop and politely thank them. Thank them for making sacrifices [ fill in the blank with examples ] for YOUR own future benefit. It works great on the poor blue collar maga faithfuls because they will never recover from this.
Just get clever with it and be sincere. I guarantee it will piss them off. I did it 3x already and got the same reactions 🤣🤣🤣
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u/purple_chocolatee 19h ago
i was thinking, drive the market down which then pumps gold, sell a part of the gold reserve (which he confirmed exists), and add bitcoins to the crypto reserve. then bitcoin pumps
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u/Corgsploot 17h ago
Lol more a convient narrative. He doesn't have a clue what he is doing. He genuinely thought tariffs would work.
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u/Popular-Jackfruit432 17h ago
He thinks he knows what he's doing. Our market won't recover from this the way he expects.
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u/Proletariat-Prince 17h ago
So his friends can buy the dip.
I thought we all knew what this was already.
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u/juancuneo 16h ago
He's not that smart. "Hey - I meant to walk face first into that door the entire time!" He's a moron.
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u/BrainsAre2Weird4Me 17h ago
Anybody who voted for Trump because of the economy/stock market who buys this shit is a bitch.
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u/Ill-Dependent2976 16h ago
It's Hanlon's Razor Exception:
Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
Hanlon's Exception: "Yeah, no, Trump's both evil and completely fucked in the head."
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u/MentionWeird7065 16h ago
The claim that Trump is purposely crashing the market to push cash into Treasuries and force the Fed to lower interest rates is a mix of economic half-truths, oversimplifications, and outright misinformation. Let’s break this down properly.
- Can a President Purposely Crash the Market?
A president has influence over the market, but not absolute control. Markets react to policies, sentiment, and external conditions. If Trump’s tariffs cause uncertainty, investors may pull out of equities, but calling it a “deliberate crash” is a stretch.
- Will a Stock Market Crash Push Cash Into Treasuries?
Yes, when stocks fall, investors often seek safer assets like U.S. Treasuries. This increases demand, pushing bond yields down (which lowers interest rates in the long term). However, this isn’t a guaranteed outcome—if investors panic, they could also move into cash, gold, or foreign assets instead.
- Will Lower Yields Force the Fed to Cut Rates?
Not necessarily. The Fed sets interest rates based on inflation, employment, and economic growth. If tariffs cause inflation (which they often do), the Fed may actually raise rates instead of cutting them. The idea that a market drop automatically leads to rate cuts is an oversimplification.
- Will Tariffs Make Companies Manufacture in the U.S.?
Tariffs make imports more expensive, which can incentivize local production. However: • Many companies can’t simply move factories overnight—it takes years. • Higher costs from tariffs often get passed onto consumers. • Retaliatory tariffs from other countries can hurt U.S. exporters. • If supply chains are too reliant on foreign inputs, U.S. companies may just pay the tariff or shift sourcing to another country (e.g., Vietnam instead of China) rather than move to the U.S.
- Will Tariffs Help Farmers and Lower Grocery Prices?
No. Historically, tariffs hurt U.S. farmers because: • Other countries retaliate with their own tariffs, reducing demand for U.S. exports (as seen in the U.S.-China trade war under Trump). • If China, for example, stops buying U.S. soybeans, it devastates American farmers. • Lower grocery prices are more dependent on fuel costs, supply chains, and climate conditions, not tariffs.
- Is Trump’s Move “Taking from the Rich and Helping the Middle Class”?
Not really. While market declines affect wealthy stockholders more (since they own most equities), tariffs act as a regressive tax, increasing prices on goods for all consumers, including the middle class and poor.
Factors That Could Derail This Plan: • Persistent Inflation: If tariffs cause prices to rise, the Fed may raise rates, not lower them. • Retaliation: Countries like China, the EU, and Canada could impose counter-tariffs, hurting U.S. businesses. • Investor Panic: If the stock market sees a prolonged decline, consumer confidence could plummet, triggering a recession. • Debt Markets: If investors lose faith in U.S. fiscal policy (especially with rising debt levels), Treasury demand could weaken instead of strengthening.
Conclusion:
The idea that Trump is “playing 4D chess” with the economy is mostly misinformation. Some individual claims have partial truth (like market downturns shifting money into bonds), but the logic is flawed, the mechanisms are misunderstood, and key risks are ignored.
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u/Godess_Ilias 15h ago
he crashes market so his rich buddies can buy majorities easier in the stock market
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u/Western-Direction395 11h ago
I mean, the guy managed to bankrupt casinos, so I'm sure he's up to the task of bankrupting the world's biggest economy.
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u/Express_Fly_4553 9h ago
Classic dictator strategy to drum up support to invade neighbors or resource rich lands.
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u/npc4lyfe 6h ago
No matter what happens, it's all some greater plan 5000D chess that pathetic, non-MAGA mortals can not understand. We could be drinking our irradiated piss for hydration, and MAGA will be like, "So the great game begins."
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u/Tebolo1848 4h ago
He doesn’t give a damn about his citizens, just helping his right-wing populist buddies in the rest of the world (that’s why there’s no tariff on Russia, Putin doesn’t need help to get to power).
Think about it, he’s sinking the US (and the rest of the world by extension) into a recession and crisis. The only ones benefitting from this are politicians that thrive on crises caused by an external power i.e. populists. He doesn’t care if he starts a trade war, he and his rich buddies will be fine while the rest of the world burns down into chaos (or global autocracy)…
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u/Animalflavour 4h ago
Highest regards to anyone still giving the orange fucktard the benefit of the doubt
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u/Bigstonkspender 3h ago
Too much winning
He needs something to bargain with obviously. Market will recover fast, buckle up
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u/Intelligent_Break_12 3h ago
Sure complained about drops before this.
Typical though that he needs validation and so when reality, that he himself largely guided, doesn't have rom from praise but plenty for blame...just change the narrative.
Aha my plan was always to shove this screwdriver into scrotum! It's you who has experienced folly!
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u/5alzamt 3h ago
I tend to disagree. He has no clue what he is doing and just tries to give the impression to have an idea. His whole „understanding“ of how the economy and trade relationships work is deeply flawed.
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u/KnowNothingKnowsAll 18h ago
He’s purposely crashing it, it’s also not crashing, and it’s also biden’s fault all at the same time.
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u/Winter-Butterfly-830 17h ago
Lol you need to start thinking like Russians to understand our administration
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u/Calaverah_ 17h ago
I think this is giving him too much credit. The obvious thing to me is this: he doesn’t know what he’s doing and any press saying it’s a strategic move or makes him sound like he’s doing something smart will boost his ego and get a retweet.
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u/Realistic_Olive_6665 17h ago
What stocks or sectors would be the best to accumulate if this was actually Trump’s plan?
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u/bsmknight 17h ago
Trump is playing 3d chess while we are all playing checkers. Albeit, his board game and pieces are all imaginary, and his opponent is a hunched over crusty, stuffed animal duck with a pull string named Nole staring into a mirror. When you pull the string, it sings a love song to Donald akin to Barney's theme song.
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u/Spinoza42 17h ago
Yup, how else are they going to default? Somewhat wild that Trump himself is now admitting it already though, I hadn't expected that for another month or so.
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u/Iamcanadian85 17h ago
Lol. I love the argument that what he's doing is so regarded, that he must be a genius.. ultimate smooth brain take.
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u/Usernamecheckout101 17h ago
This is like someone claims I am as smart as Albert Einstein, but then I say why not.. I didn’t say it myself
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u/Ok_Cook_6665 17h ago
It could be that he's (gasp) lying. How is this China's "mistake" ? Chat is no way to run a country.
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u/zangief137 17h ago
He campaigned on this! Jack up all the prices so demand can’t match, everyone’s poor so the rich snatch it all up since no competition. Boom recover and you have trillionaires. He will strangle the economy the whole ride, he’s too rich to care
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u/ApoplecticAndroid 17h ago
No. He shared because that he will compulsively have to pretend that he engineered this on purpose. It is cognitive dissonance - something happened that was because of me. I do good things. This thing is therefore good.
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u/Big_Tourist_5536 17h ago
He is intentionally tanking the stock market so him and his buddies can buy up the stocks at significantly lower prices, and then all of a sudden it will boom again and they increase their net worth while the rest of us squabble over the table scrapes.
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u/Sharp-Necessary8044 19h ago
He couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag lol he's just following someone's commands