r/Washington • u/LiveNet2723 • 1d ago

FEMA pulls $50M from Grays Harbor levee project, Westport tsunami tower

The Trump administration is canceling a popular grant program that has given states and communities billions of dollars to protect against natural disasters, according to an internal document obtained by POLITICO’s E&E News.

This will adversely affect key infrastructure projects in Grays Harbor County including the long-awaited North Shore Levee project and the Westport tsunami tower.

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u/satch31 1d ago

Well at least some people in Washington are getting what they voted for happy for them.

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u/sneezerlee 1d ago

They will just blame state leadership for angering dear leader and not falling in line.

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u/Apprehensive_Roll897 1d ago

It has really gone far far beyond any of that "They get what they voted for" talk. This type of division is what got us here. This type of division is what will ensure we stay here.  No war but class war.

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u/QuidYossarian 23h ago

No war but class war.

Go tell that to the people who keep voting for this shit.

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u/MisterRenewable 20h ago

Well, he's right. It is a class war. The whole left vs. right is clearly a divisive smokescreen to keep the lower classes fighting themselves while the capital class extracts the wealth out of their pockets. This is pretty much common knowledge, and evidenced by the fact that political races revolve around things like abortion and fun rights instead of the fact that the capital class is leading has led us straight into global society collapse and fascist authoritarianism. The only place left to squeeze the lower classes is onto the streets, and that's bad for business, so we've collectively reached the end of the grift. Que society collapse!

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u/QuidYossarian 19h ago

The whole "left vs right" involves one group wholly endorsing the people that want it to continue. The right is outright for making the rich richer. Fuck 'em.

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u/ScottishJonJon 6h ago

To be fair, propoganda works.

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u/Same-Frosting4852 1d ago

Then stop voting Republican

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u/satch31 1d ago

Found the bot

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u/mr_jim_lahey 1d ago

Every day I'm more convinced that a lot of the quasi-communist idiocy flying around is right-wing astroturfing

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u/UsualOkay6240 22h ago

Seems like common sense, what’s the problem exactly? You’d like to fight other wars except those against oppressing classes?

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u/mr_jim_lahey 22h ago

Yep, another divisive idiotic talking point completely divorced from reality, exactly what I'm talking about

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u/UsualOkay6240 21h ago

Not divorced from reality, in fact, there's no ideological point more aligned with empirical reality. Please develop a counter point rather than believing you're above the topic, you're obviously not.

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u/mr_jim_lahey 21h ago

Looking forward to your stupidity throwing another swing state in favor of Trump, keep up the good ideological work bud

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u/Green_Molasses_6381 1d ago

Nah he’s right

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u/Lord_Rapunzel 1d ago

No he's not. Decades of right-wing propaganda going unchallenged and unpunished is what got us here. Wishy-washy Democrats unwilling to rock the boat and fight on their level, happy to keep the status quo while Christofascists slowly gained influence.

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u/MisterRenewable 20h ago

It's called the rachet effect. The reds constantly push further right when they are in power, (now to the point that intentional cruelty and a theistic state are being normalized, sobering the finding targets would roll over in their have over) while the blues prevent any meaningful movement to the left while they are in power. The result is a constant march right toward fascism, and the Overton window shifting to match, preventing discourse outside of that narrow left/right topic. No one besides maybe Bernie Sanders even talks about the oligarchic takeover. And they call him a crank.

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u/Actor412 18h ago

To be clear, it has always been conservatives & Republicans which have pushed the division. That's been true for over thirty years. They keep power by pushing wedge issues, creating them if they need to (e.g., trans people existing.)

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u/Hopsblues 15h ago

Yep and it really ramped up when a black man became Potus.

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u/Obvious_copout 21h ago

You are correct... unfortunately a majority of the people of GH county voted for this to happen.

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u/tenantofthehouse 22h ago

A relatively innocuous call for class unity gets shouted down as a "bot" by both sides. We really are cooked.

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u/thus_spake_7ucky 1d ago edited 19h ago

Bummer, I’ve spent some time in and out of these communities growing up and, going back recently, felt sad about what they’ve become. They could’ve really used this investment.

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u/lucylyn6765 7h ago

The levee project would have brought down home insurance costs in the flood zones significantly also. It’s a direct hit to local homeowners in the Aberdeen/Hoquiam area.

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u/BeaverInTheForest 1d ago

Harborite here. Trump won by just over 2k votes. We're not all part of the cult, thank you, and a lot of good people who didn't vote for this will suffer. It's never going to be a better world with shitty attitudes and a revolving door of Us vs. Thems...

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u/TwinFrogs 1d ago

GHC used to be blue as fuck. Same with Pacific County. Then Weyerhaeuser got done cutting down all the trees and didn’t give a shit anymore. The jobs dried up, and everyone working age needed to leave. Since then, it’s been a bunch of retirees and slumlords that will burn someone at the stake for saying the word “tax.”

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u/nooneyouknow242 1d ago edited 23h ago

Have cousins that live there. It was a very blue county, very pro-union.

now it’s really Red. The funny thing is not many people left, it’s all the same people. They just shifted to conservative GOP.

Edit: more spooky. Not conservative GOP, more populist MAGA

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u/TwinFrogs 1d ago

It went really redneck back in the 1990’s when all the mills closed. 

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u/FlipFlopFlippy 1d ago

And the much maligned spotted owl.

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u/TwinFrogs 1d ago

That’s exactly right. The timber industry tried to blame the Endangered Species Act, and “Environmentalists” for not being allowed to clear cut the Olympic National Park. Senator Gorton rammed through the Salvage Rider Bill to allow the ONP to be clear cut. Within minutes, Weyerhaeuser was up there with chainsaws cutting down 500 year old trees. A judge slammed the brakes on it. Gorton soon was voted out of office. I met that shithead in person. He was an absolute asshole.

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u/Dr_Adequate 1d ago

There's a reason he earned the nickname 'Slippery Slade.'

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u/retrojoe 21h ago

Huh. We called him Skeletor in my neck of the woods.

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u/Blitzkrieg84 22h ago

I grew up there. The 90's gutted any industry that would have kept anyone there that had options elsewhere. The place had a giant brain drain and the people that are left refuse to do anything but point to the past, and proclaim, "See what they did to our community!"

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u/BoringBob84 22h ago

It's never going to be a better world with shitty attitudes and a revolving door of Us vs. Thems...

That excuse worked for the first administration of the orange tyrant. But there is no way that a rational person could have seen first hand how destructive he was and then voted for him again. The loyal followers don't get to get enjoy their twisted pleasure in the suffering of other people, cheer on the dictator as he dismantles the separation of powers in our government, and then pretend that it is somehow unfair that the rest of the country is upset with them.

Maybe when they genuinely apologize and change their ways, then healing can begin.

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u/Visual_Collar_8893 20h ago

Unfortunately, death will meet them before they are willing to admit they have been wrong. apologies will have to come from the grave, if they ever.

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u/BoringBob84 49m ago

I think that is not a coincidence. People who are consumed by their own egos seem like easy targets for con artists because they are not self aware enough to see that they are being manipulated and they are too proud to admit it when/if they figure it out.

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u/Visual_Octopus6942 1d ago

Yeah please ignore the other callous comments implying the whole county deserves this.

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u/ChalkyWhite23 13h ago

Harborite here too.

This sucks.

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u/Obvious_copout 21h ago

Remember, the goal of Project 2025 was to destroy our economy so the wealthy can steal our tax dollars and privatize every aspect of our public systems. Everyone knew, people still voted for the orange shit stain anyway.

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u/MikeThrowAway47 22h ago

Nobody is commenting on the impact of yanking the funds for building the North Shore levee. This is at Damon's Point. Currently, that beach and Damon's Point are closed due to erosion. The new levee would have fixed that issue. Now it's gone. The real issue isn't beach or Damon Point access. The erosion is now going to destroy private property and homes. It will also destroy part of the drinking water infrastructure for Ocean Shores. And the south canal system is in danger of being exposed to tidal flooding.

At the end of the article is the real deal. “It will also remove about $1.2 million of flood insurance premiums from the community,” Nunn said in 2022. “It will protect 3,100 properties, and 994 businesses. Also, it’s important to say economic growth will maintain 842 jobs and create new ones.”

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u/LiveNet2723 21h ago

The North Shore Levee Project at issue here is planned for the north shore of the Chehalis River between Aberdeen and Hoquiam. It's about 15 miles from Damon Point.

The City of Ocean Shores is constructing a berm to control erosion at Damon Point. It's largely funded by state and local money. An application for a FEMA cooperative technical partnership (CTP) grant is being applied for.

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u/MikeThrowAway47 20h ago

Ahhh, thanks for the correction. I definitely was confused. Yeah, I know about the berm, but it won't stop the erosion. Looks like that app to FEMA will be useless at least while this administration is in office. So, the issues still remain.

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u/Mental-Pin-8594 7h ago

Thank you for posting link. I was curious about what this entailed.

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u/crone_Andre3000 1d ago

They voted for him so this shouldn't be an issue

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u/Visual_Octopus6942 1d ago

Yeah fuck the whole county, not like 45% voted blue

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u/crone_Andre3000 1d ago

I grew up down there -they have been voting against their own interests my entire life

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u/Visual_Octopus6942 1d ago

At least a third of them have not, so that’s not entirely true now is it?

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u/crone_Andre3000 1d ago

you voted for him didn't you...

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u/Visual_Octopus6942 22h ago

Nope. Any other vapid things to say?

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u/crone_Andre3000 22h ago

Well that is how elections work. The majority of idiots get to decide what happens to the rest of us...I know a lot of people who still live in Grays Harbor and Pacific County. I watched towns like Westport and Aberdeen and Raymond cut their own throat. You can call me vapid but I am right.

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u/Visual_Octopus6942 22h ago

I’m calling you stupidly accusing me of voting for Trump vapid, keep up.

So no, you’re definitely wrong lol

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u/Smeggaman 1d ago

I'm sorry 55% of your county sucks.

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u/Visual_Octopus6942 1d ago

I actually live in King County, so only like a quarter does.

I just think it is stupid and non-constructive to think in such black and white terms

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u/CarbonRunner 1d ago

It has reached black and white though. This the same region that voted in to a city council a maga pedophile shitbag.

These folks won't learn the lesson without some suffering. It sounds harsh but its the reality now. If they don't get fucked over the next few years, come 2028 they will be voting exactly the same again.

The best we can do for them is show them the carrot while the people they voted for keep giving them the stick. Even then I worry the vast majority won't change their minds though.

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u/CarbonRunner 1d ago edited 1d ago

Look at city, district, county, state and federal election results for the area. They have wanted this for years. You can bemoan my standpoint all ya want. But the reality is the majority of its residents wanted this. Again I'm not talking trump only here. Look at who they vote in for city councils, mayors, school boards etc.

The only way the human species course corrects is pain and sadness. Its horrible, but its our nature. If things like this don't happen to grays harbor county. Do you think they will vote differently next time?

And yes, I do feel bad for those who didn't vote for this that live there. But, again, they aren't the problem. They should work on solving it, or move elsewhere.

Edit: really you make another reply and then block me so I can't tell you that it's you who seem to have the comprehension problem? Pretty cowardly.

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u/MistressVelmaDarling 1d ago

A majority voted for this. That majority asked for this. Better?

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u/SnarkMasterRay 1d ago

Hey, broad brushes only! Didn't tattoo "Kamela" on your butt? Literally Hitler!

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u/etcpt 1d ago

Username checks out

Also, perfect example of pot/kettle...

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u/SnarkMasterRay 1d ago

Commenting on how people use too broad a brush and then ending with a hyperbolic joke example is not pot/kettle - it's a joke.

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u/CarbonRunner 1d ago

Good for grays harbor! They didn't want that stuff anyway since they voted for the guy doing this..

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u/Momma_Ginja 22h ago

I wish GHC folks would remind Musky that maintaining the four lower Snake River dams and subsidizing barging via an enormous waste of tax dollars. 🤣🤣

Breach those Fu**s and improve fish survival!

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u/Interanal_Exam 21h ago

Your federal taxes will continue to increase (unless you're rich) and your services will continue to decrease. This is the G☭P Way.

Also, enjoy your "time off," MAGAt workers.

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u/prometheus_wisdom 21h ago

remember all this pain is for them to pass their tax cut that will only benefit the richest of Americans, and you voted for him and this

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u/Fair-Doughnut3000 17h ago

Chaos, Crisis, Coup.

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u/BaronNeutron 14h ago

Trump did this, not FEMA

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u/Melodic-Pangolin-434 10h ago

Because he doesn’t fucking care about America or Americans unless you’re a cultist loyalist.

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u/cpnahab75 23h ago

Japan Tsunami was 130’ high.. 130’ minus 54’ equals 76’ under water… Westport tower… way too short…

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u/byllz 22h ago

That height was at the very highest points as the geometry of the coastline perfectly magnified the waves. The vast majority of the coastline had much lower levels. It's much more likely that, say, 30ft waves will crash over Westport. We cannot protect from every worst-case disaster everywhere.

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u/Score_Tricky 22h ago

Based on coastal topography, Westport worst case tsunami would likely not exceed 30 feet in height.

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u/Hopspeed 1d ago

Wouldn’t a cell phone tower would be better than a tsunami tower anyways? With the ability to push alerts everyone could be alerted with the problem and what to do, not just a blaring horn.

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u/nooneyouknow242 23h ago

A tsunami tower is a place that people can go to be high up and safe from a tsunami.

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u/Hopspeed 21h ago

I didn’t know this was a thing until now. The grant was given 2 years ago, they should have at least started by now.

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u/nooneyouknow242 20h ago

Lots of environmental and engineering that happens before building. Just cause thr ground hasn’t been broken, doesn’t mean the project hasn’t started.

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u/Momma_Ginja 22h ago

Apparently you need to visit Westport. It’s lovely! But no hills anywhere near.