The whole stupid tree fell on him. You can't be as stupid as he is only being hit with the stupid tree stick. It takes the whole damn stupid tree falling directly in him to confer the level of stupidity he, Drumpf, demonstrates/possesses. Then again, there may have been a forest of stupid trees that took turns falling on him, given the depth of his stupid.
Ok, I can see what they are saying with these studies, but these studies aims arenât to make mice transgender (gender is a social construct, so unless the mouse is telling you they are a boy that inside feels like a girl, it doesnât make sense). But these experiments are to, for example, test what effects certain vaccines have when given to someone taking female hormones. I hate to break it to them, even some girls and women take female hormones. But Trump is really good with twisting facts to fit his narrative. I guess saying âtesting vaccines in conjunction with gender affirmative careâ isnât as snappy as âtransgender miceâ!
They also ignored 2 big things. The program covered testing on all sorts of things outside of hormones. The program was originally started under the first Trump administration.
Only three of the six studies even mention gender-affirming careâŚthe last one is literally about how asthma outcomes are influenced by puberty with gonadotropins as a variable. And one of the studies is just looking at the effects of steroid hormones on reproductive organs. It doesnât even specify which hormones, just mentions ovaries. Maybe theyâre studying the long term effects of IVF (which often involves women taking larger doses of female hormones than are naturally produced)? Or maybe theyâre looking at prednisone (a steroid) or insulin (a hormone)? Who knows? Not this administration, thatâs for damned sure.
But god forbid anyone study anything that might sound a little queer. Never mind that the breast cancer study could even provide new ideas for treatment options in the general population. Hell, ALL of these studies could lead to generally applicable knowledge. But no, they might benefit a trans person and we canât have that!
$455,000: âA Mouse Model to Test the Effects of Gender-affirming Hormone Therapy on HIV Vaccine-induced Immune Responsesâ
$2,500,000: âReproductive Consequences of Steroid Hormone Administrationâ
âThese mice manifest defects in ovarian architecture and have altered folliculogenesis.â
$299,940: âGender-Affirming Testosterone Therapy on Breast Cancer Risk and Treatment Outcomesâ
âWe will compare the incidences and tumor specific survival in female mice (intact) and oophorectomized female mice receiving TT with their
respective counterparts that do not receive TT.â
$735,113: âMicrobiome mediated effects of gender affirming hormone therapy in miceâ
$1,200,000: âAndrogen effects on the reproductive neuroendocrine axisâ
âAim 2 utilizes transgenic mice to test whether male-level androgens acting via AR specifically in kisspeptin neurons are necessary and/or sufficient
for androgen inhibition of in vivo LH pulse parameters, including pulse frequency, and the estrogen-induced LH surge.â
$3,100,000: âGonadal hormones as mediators of sex and gender influences in asthmaâ
âWe will study the contributions of estrogens to HDM-induced asthma outcomes using male and female gonadectomized mice treated with estradiolâŚâ
Itâs all still using transgenic mice, so the Trump adminâs intentional misrepresentation of this data is still misinformation.
So the WH should still absolutely be mocked relentlessly for their stupidity for dabbling in shit they donât understand, including the fact that the $8B went towards transgenic mice, not transgender mice.
Their interpretation that any application of the research from the above implies that the intended recipient is transgender is also hilarious, because that implies that every male on TRT and female on ERT is now transgender, because most of the research from the above equally applies to those use cases.
So, keeping track of White House beliefs so far:
1) All people are female
2) All female people are transgender
This is why you donât let the anti-intellectual knuckle draggers anywhere near scientific topics.
look, I honestly don't care what ANYONE does to their own body, live and let live I say... but I don't make up the terms, nor do I define them: and the definition of gender affirming hormone therapy reads like text book transgender via drug therapy to me and probably quite a few other people so why try so hard to make it anything but?
If you, as a researcher, are studying whether cross sex exogenous hormone therapy impacts the effectiveness of HIV vaccine, that is not making mice transgender. That is using transgenic mice on a study to test whether the vaccines are going to work for transgender people.
If you, as a researcher, are studying whether cross sex exogenous hormone therapy introduces additional risk for breast cancer in those whoâve had their ovaries removed, that is not making mice transgender. That is using transgenic mice on a study to test whether male level androgens (which isnât limited to testosterone by the way) affects that risk.
Being against the above, youâre not being critical of âtransgender miceâ, youâre being critical of the use of transgenic mice to test whether trans people are more susceptible to life ending diseases using the same methodology applied to testing these scenarios in cis people. Whatâs textbook about this is that none of this requires making mice transgender.
Youâre just flat out against trans people living longer lives.
Downvoting me because you donât understand science isnât a good look. Iâm not going to sit here all day and teach you collegiate biology and then additionally teach you the delineation of biology vs sociology. You should have paid attention in school. You are the one invested in making this science look like something itâs not, and youâre doing so to push an agenda.
So you should likewise be relentlessly mocked just like MAGA since you so desperately want to go to bat for them that you canât take 5 minutes to actually absorb what youâre reading or analyze it without also wholly retaining the anti-intellectual narrative from the White House. You can not be unbiased.
Fuck off, MAGA
ETA: There is no such thing as forcing someone that isnât transgender into being transgender through âdrug therapyâ. Youâre spreading more MAGA misinformation.
If what youâre saying here was true, Alan Turing wouldâve been a woman according to your silly interpretation of how reality works. Not even Joseph Goebbelâs experiments could make cis people trans, and he weaponized hormones to the point of lethality.
Oh nooo. Theyâre doing experiments using mice on health issues of concern to transgender people. Who exist. And have health concerns.
Maybe we should just stop doing research on health issues that concern African Americans. Why bother studying sickle cell anemia. Wasted money. Who gets that anyway? Not good white Christian folk.
I am sure all the old men undergoing gender affirming care such as TRT would love to know what the effects on their microbiome is.
Got me but at least itâs an infinitesimally small amount of money. 0.000132% of fed gov spending on health related programs in 2024 according to the google.
â A quick google search says there are 169.6 million cis women in the US and ~500k transgender women or .0029%. So check my math but that means $9,139.15 tax dollars were allocated to treating and preventing asthma in trans women and $3,090,860.85 on cis women.
All that to be said, in 2024 there was a 1.8 trillion dollar budget deficit. So letâs just toss out 1 and 3 for a sec and recognize that item 2 accounted for .000067% of the budget deficit. All three account for .00067% of the 2024 budget deficit.
This article is silly fear mongering to rile people up. TRANS BAD! BIDEN BAD! Sadly itâs coming from the same White House thatâs busy destroying Americaâs international credibility and starting trade wars with our allies and trying to raise the debt ceiling by 4 trillion dollars. To put it in perspective⌠this is the equivalent of someone with 1.49 million dollars pointing out someone spent a literal penny they didnât like.
I canât agree with you more. Idiocracy.
This video should be the only thing theyâre talking about when it comes to spending. Dave Schweikert gets major respect from me for this.
The word âdiversityâ in context of conserving species - both animals and plants - have ground a lot of conservation efforts to a full halt because they call it DEI
I've started avoiding the use of "diversity" and a few other words in environmental and archaelogical reports lately. It's a crazy way to freeze funding and issue stop-work orders, but I guess this is life under dictatorship. AI is going to be the end of humanity.
Beyond that, it seems that they don't understand the concept of lab animals. This is like the time whenSarah Palin complained about public money being used for fruit fly research. Not a clue.
Itâs justâŚ.from the middle school level language âthose CNN losers!â to the complete science illiteracy, to the misplaced confidence to put it on the White House letterheadâŚthis is the office of the president of the United States. What the fuck.
Ugh. I hate to be the one...there was a study being done on the affects of drugs used in transgender care and mice were used in tests.
HOWEVER,
"The studies were meant to figure out how these treatments might affect the health of humans who take them, not for the purpose of making mice transgender."
That's true, part of the program did test gender affirming medication. The hole post of the post comes from the fact that Trump said transgender mice. He even lost some of the studies under the program that had nothing to do with gender medications.
He ignored the fact the program was used on all sorts of testing and canceled the whole thing.
He really did accidentally or intentionally mix up transgenetic and transgender.
I totally agree with you. I don't want the comment to seem as if I agree with anything his lying blowhole spouts.
I don't know if my thinking is correct but I'm wondering if attempting to say he "mixed it up" (or purposefully) with a study about cancer is...fuckin...I dunno, helpful? (Regarding the RS article, not your comment)
All his dumb supporters & low-info ppl need to hear is the word "transgender" to decide it's wasteful.
The horror! Theyd retract sickle cell and ovarian cancer research retroactively if they could. Bc thatâs woke dei. Medicine is for cuz white dudes
Also the last 2 donât have anything to do with trans people. These fucks are so scared of the word hormone that they donât realize they have them too
It's not misinformation or fraud Trump directly said transgender mice.
Yes the study was used to test gender-affirming medications.
What they're leaving out is the fact that the study tested a whole bunch of other medications as well. Along with the fact that the study was originally started under the first Trump administration.
It also underpins the fact that they don't understand how science works. Experiments on mice are not for mice, they are pre-human trials to study the basics of biology before testing on humans.
Trump: That mouse is a boy mouse. Have you ever seen any thing like that? Joe Biden spent millions of dollars dressing that mouse. It's fraud and waste never seen before.
Please don't post just the headline. People are going to think there is actual truth when there isn't. Also, MAGA can take it and spread the lies.
Also, if you look at the actual body of the White House article, it becomes even worse. They're claiming that mice who are being used for asthma research are actually being used for gender-affirming care, which is total bullshit.
$3,100,000: âGonadal hormones as mediators of sex and gender influences in asthmaâ
âWe will study the contributions of estrogens to HDM-induced asthma outcomes using male and female gonadectomized mice treated with estradiolâŚâ
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u/kulukster Mar 06 '25
Next they are coming after people who use transportation