r/abovethenormnews • u/TurboBennett • 8d ago
An Engineer Says He’s Found a Way to Overcome Earth’s Gravity
This new propulsion system could rewrite the rules of spaceflight—not to mention completely defy conventional physics.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/rockets/a64323665/overcoming-earths-gravity/
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u/302-SWEETMAN 8d ago
He will go missing soon or have an accident,its what always happens to these people…
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u/lifesuxwhocares 7d ago edited 7d ago
Yes, step one is you stfu and don't post on any news about your gravity machine or engines that run on water. Step 2 release open source instructions via encryption.
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u/Chris714n_8 6d ago
Don't forget to do that at a random location and with a cheap, fresh, never before used pc (which you need to destroy) afterwards.. - Sounds funny, but it's not a joke.
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u/xstrawb3rryxx 5d ago
Why encrypt it?
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u/RogerTheLouse 4d ago
via encryption
This is so no one can tell who posted it. Keeping the engineer anonymous
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u/Sufficient-Moose-652 3d ago
We’re offsetting the next ice age with fossil fuel usage, and should not be using something that we need for hydration (water) to fuel transportation devices. Better off returning to horse and cart and sailboats than using water to fuel vehicles.
Regarding anti-grav: Look at how messed up humanity is just on one planet. Do you really want that to spread throughout the universe in its current form?
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u/lifesuxwhocares 3d ago
It's important to stay open minded, and understand you don't know everything. More corbon dioxide in the air has been linked to greener planet. The world is complicated. When we switched from dirty diesel cargo ships, to cleaner engines, the smoke in the air over the oceans cleared, the sun heated up the waters, and substantially increased temperatures of the oceans. World is really complicated, and like Einstein said, "the more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know."
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u/IllustriousAnt485 8d ago
His name was Charles Buhler. His name was Charles Buhler.
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u/CosmicallyF-d 8d ago
Nope, Elon will claim ownership over the idea and start another company with Federal funding.
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u/NoDirectionFromMe 7d ago
X Pulsion or something x ish
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u/Tasguy69 6d ago
No, X Pulsion's has already been taken. That's the name of the new company felon has started to take immigrants out of the states.
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u/Desperate_Bad1695 5d ago
Who’s going to disappear him ? Someone else trying to reverse gravity ? But by your logic someone else would have disappeared that guy, too.
1) the story is likely bullshit so maybe let’s wait till we see their findings and
2) accepting any and all conspiracies without any evidence is also not a great method of deducing fact.
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u/HzUltra 7d ago
He is using the Newtonian approach to Electrodynamics, you can check the original works of Weber and Ampere and build on that. Elektrostatics is interesting because is a longitudinal wave and you can generate a lot of voltage (pressure force) at a 90-degree angle. Example is Exploding wire method.
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u/Sir_Edna_Bucket 7d ago
It's really interesting to dive back through history and look at some of the science of the time. Around the time of the first world war there seemed to be a great trimming of the theory and they only went with things they could 100% prove or was easily useable. I think we might have lost some alternative, not applicable at the time, ways of understanding physics that would now appear to have a relevance.
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u/Tricombed 7d ago
Do you think there is a person out there with the same thought as you but who is smart enough to understand and develop those physics?
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u/Longjumping-Winter43 7d ago
There was a time news like this would fascinate and excite me. Now I’m just thinking how will our government and/or corporations use this info to oppress/charge us more/take away our civil rights/hurt/kill us.
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u/BigDigger324 7d ago
I feel you….i read this and thought “oh great now BMW can charge a subscription for gravity holding your car on the road”
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u/Triceratonin 3d ago
Well have you thought about how inconvenient it would be to be on your way to collect your mega millions lottery winnings only to fly off into the sky and collide with a Falcon 9 rocket? That would be so annoying.
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u/humanitarian0531 5d ago
Yep, at the turn of the mellenium I had a passion and optimism for technological growth that was all but destroyed by politics and greedy corporate policy around 2016. RIP naive child….
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u/Annual-Flounder-3227 7d ago
Half of the article says that this can‘t be true. Intensely trying to show that any of this kind of technology failed in the past. It’s just arrogant and ignorant.
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u/TheAmazingBreadfruit 7d ago
If he can prove that this works... fine. Otherwise, healthy skepticism is totally appropriate.
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u/AreYouMadYetOG 7d ago
On top of that, i saw no mention of Alcumbierre anywhere - the OG drive hypothesizer. Article is ass masqueraded as news.
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u/Nightowl11111 3d ago
Electrostatics IS old and it isn't anti-gravity, it is just similar to magnets that push away from each other. It's limited in that once you are away from anything you can push against, it kind of... stops working.
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u/Worth_Specific3764 8d ago
J L Naudin lifter project. Since the early 2000s. Excellent work.
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u/Worth_Specific3764 7d ago
T T Brown. Here’s his wikipedia link because the above comment was deleted, unfortunately. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Townsend_Brown
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u/Aggressive-Ad3286 7d ago
Their plan to overcome gravity is to produce an opposing force to counter gravity.... seriously? No new physics here, just a shitty propulsion system using "electrostatics"...
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u/pjx1 7d ago
Is he still alive? Because it must not work if he is
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u/Desperate_Bad1695 5d ago
Weird how people invent stuff all the time and don’t get assassinated.
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u/pjx1 5d ago
There is a long list of people who have died who supposedly created free or really cheap energy devices that challenge the current climate.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/mysterious-deaths-inventors-were-silenced-unveiling-will-owens-tlpke/
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u/Pdx_pops 8d ago
Secret technology claims to do amazing stuff...
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u/DaddyHEARTDiaper 7d ago
I have already proven him correct through my own research. No, I can't share it.
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u/c3dt 7d ago
Publish it all before you die
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u/Desperate_Bad1695 5d ago
Test the method! Proclaim that you’ve made an incredibly discovery which will earn you trillions and see if any government tries to have you killed.
(They won’t)
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u/Captain_Coffee_III 7d ago
I have an in-law who claims he's invented a "this one really works" perpetual motion machine that would allow you to siphon off a little bit of energy to produce electricity.
This was one of many of our conversations. All end up this way.
"How does it work?"
"I can't show you."
"Why not?" "Because, you'll take the idea."
"I just want to see if your thinking is sound. I have other things to do. Why don't you build a prototype?"
"If I do, the oil companies or the government will take it and make it disappear."
"But you're making it disappear by not doing anything with it. We only have like 20 years left."
"Can't do it. Can't take that risk."
"How will they make it disappear if it is only in your house?"
"They'll know. They always do."
"Have you shown your kids? They can take it over and make something."
"No. Nobody knows anything about it."
"You can't just go around telling people you've invented a working perpetual motion machine and never actually produce it."
"It's a solid idea. I just can't risk it."
"But if it's real, you can save the world!"
"It will be disruptive. It will destroy the world."
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u/wild_crazy_ideas 7d ago
Why not just have a giant electromagnetic coil around the rocket leading up to the sky and use that for the initial speed launch so it doesn’t have to have booster rockets that break off
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u/Wenger2112 7d ago
“Nonzero force component”?
I am no rocket scientist, but this sounds like the catch.
I can create “nonzero” electrical charges by rubbing my dogs head with a fuzzy blanket. I can even lift light objects (hairs) with this field. That does not mean static electricity is capable of powering an airplane.
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u/velezaraptor 7d ago
If they achieved this much thrust, there would be a video or something to show the world. They’ve been trying for a long time to achieve something like this.
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u/Dweller201 7d ago
I saw the device tested on YouTube months ago.
From what I saw, they had the thrust unit on a rotational device and when powered on it moved very slightly.
If it's actually real, it looks like you would need massive amounts of power to provide thrust you could do something with.
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u/Emergency_Driver_421 7d ago
Any aeroplane or helicopter has ‘found a way to overcome Earth’s gravity’…
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u/6854wiggles 7d ago
The first rule of non gravitational flight club is you don’t talk about non gravitational flight club…
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u/jokersvoid 7d ago
I saw an interview with a kid that said he re found a method that works with inertia to make things seem like anti-gravity. The kid said it was something that was most likely came across before as it's relatively simple.
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u/Killiander 7d ago
I read about this guy and his drive a few months ago. He hasn’t been proven wrong yet. And he’s had experts come in and test it out.
The one issue is that it can counter earth grav at sea level which means it produces 9.8 m/s per second. Which just makes it buoyant. Also, that’s with no payload. So it’s still going to be a while until something like this can lift anything into orbit.
I’d really love to see how it works in space. It doesn’t matter that it doesn’t produce much thrust if it can run continuously.
But if they could keep iterating and produce enough for a payload, even if it only rose as fast as a hot air balloon, that wouldn’t matter, it would still be an incredibly cheaper way to move material to space and infinitely more environmentally friendly. Even if it took a month from launch to get to orbit, it would revolutionize access to space. Imagine instead of rockets, we’d be launching platforms into space loaded with building materials and supplies. And if it’s strong enough to get to space, it’s strong enough to get us around in space.
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u/SmartMatic1337 7d ago
"electrostatic design", "propellantless"
Maybe this dude just needs to google what electrostatic propulsion is before starting a company about words he doesn't understand.
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u/teddyslayerza 7d ago
20 years and this guy hasn't produced a single prototype or official design/explanation of how it works. All the vague details he's ever released have been tested and found to be simply result in "thrust" that is nothing more than measurement error.
This is nothing more than snake oil.
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u/Educated_Bro 6d ago
”Essentially, what we’ve discovered is that systems that contain an *asymmetry in either electrostatic pressure** or some kind of electrostatic divergent field can give a system of a center of mass a non-zero force component,” Buhler told The Debrief. “So, what that basically means is that there’s some underlying physics that can essentially place force on an object should those two constraints be met.”*
…so essentially he rediscovered what Thomas Townsend Brown discovered almost 80 years ago working with asymmetric high voltage capacitors at Bahnson’s gravity research institute
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u/Whackjob-KSP 6d ago
It's EM-Drive. Again. Didn't they literally test one in orbit and have it do nothing?
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u/PeterPunkinHead 5d ago
Lol, those Ionic breeze things will certainly bring particles out of the air but then just try and clean it off of the area where it happens
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u/EyeCatchingUserID 5d ago
Look, I want to see an actual holtzman generator as much as the next Dune fan, but until I see a demonstration of the device I'm comfortable saying it doesn't actually work or exist. Fool me, you can't get fooled again.
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u/Crazykracker55 3d ago
I think what we have here is the answer to the moon and mars travel and it was given to nasa as musk has gotten power crazy. You will see soon that the next mission to the moon will be with this or the trip to mars and nasa will have it and musk will go under
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u/HankuspankusUK69 7d ago
When I was a child I thought putting a string on a cannon ball and firing a round could be used on a space ship for propulsion, then refined the idea when I learned about electro magnets , vacuums and computers that control acceleration of a magnetic mass to fire at a semi repulsive kinetic absorbing force that jolts the space ship forward . Oumuamua the cigar shaped speculated alien space ship could be using an internal mass driver for propulsion , as a deep space object not covered in ice is strange , unless a blackhole stretched it , now apparently there are four similar objects .
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u/Weekly-Trash-272 7d ago
I'd be happy to help you understand this article. It discusses a claim about a new propulsion system that supposedly defies conventional physics:
The article is about Charles Buhler, a former NASA engineer who claims to have developed a propellant-less drive through his company Exodus Propulsion Technologies. According to Buhler, this drive uses electrostatics to generate thrust without expelling mass (which would normally violate the conservation of momentum in physics).
Key points:
Buhler claims they've discovered a "New Force" outside our current understanding of physics that allows electric fields alone to generate sustainable force
He says his team has developed this technology to the point where it can overcome Earth's gravity
The article compares this to the EmDrive, another "impossible" propulsion system that was ultimately debunked after years of testing
The article maintains a healthy skepticism about these claims, noting that:
The findings haven't been independently verified
Similar "breakthrough" propulsion systems like the EmDrive were eventually proven not to work
While not impossible that Buhler discovered something new, it's "extremely unlikely"
The article concludes by calling it an "improbable engine" and emphasizing that rigorous third-party research would be needed to verify these claims.
Would you like me to explain any specific aspect of this article in more detail?
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u/synth003 7d ago
C'mon then, I'm an engineer - loads of people are, post the plans, method and apparatus required to recreate so it can be quickly proven and advanced.