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Politics Discussion: Now that the dust has settled, how do we feel about the Biden Administration's response to anti-Asian violence during COVID?
It's been 4 years since Stop Asian Hate. Although Trump was the one who kicked off the association between COVID and Asians by calling it the China Virus, violent crimes actually peaked in 2021, during Biden's term. In other words the Democrats were actually the ones who were positioned to do something about it.
It's been a long time since then, but I don't think this sub has had a proper discussion going over what was done for Asian Americans during our crisis. What were the political actions taken, how effective were they, and do you think they went far enough for us?
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u/Square_Level4633 500+ community karma 1d ago
It's the same snakkke with two heads. The republikkkans attacked Asians verbally while the demokkkrats attacked Asians physically.
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u/Relevant-Cat-5169 Contributor 1d ago
I’d say democrats “attacked” Asians both verbally and physically. With republicans the Verbal attacks are more blunt. While democrats insult you in a sneaky way. Both two heads are full of shit.
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u/Worldly_Option1369 500+ community karma 1d ago
Fuck the media, they either buried the topic or hijacked our movement to further their own agenda. Its always in-between being ignored or used as some tool for white supremecy. Sometimes I wonder if I’m trying to repair an eternally burning house.
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u/pocketofsushine 500+ community karma 2d ago
How else should we feel?? Like seriously what kind of awareness and attention was there for endless DAILY attacks on Asians…and when Asians tries to raise the alarms the media went silent because they didn’t want to tarnish the image of their pets the Black community.
nothing was more eye opening then seeing the utter silence from supposed “allies” when it came to oppression of innocent Asians. The media should have been honest, and quite frankly even many Asians were too chicken shit to call out the BS.
Asians deserve so much better than what happened after COVID, the truth was vital to our progress but of course the media and chicken shit Bobas were silent. Of course because of what happened whites were able to take advantage of the hypocrisy and advance their cause, when it was our political football to take advantage of, our brothers sisters moms dads elders got attacked and we didn’t even get to honor them with advancement of our causes.
When the day comes that Asians have made ACTUAL progress, then maybe we can think of stronger allyship, but not before then COVID proved this.
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u/attrox_ 50-150 community karma 1d ago
It truly opens my eyes of the hypocrisy. Seattle international district at this time was totally abandoned. The supposedly left leaning government let the many Asian businesses deal with the open air drugs and all the violence and many businesses are closing. I'm not longer living in Seattle but I don't think it ever recovers either. Both political parties in the US just use us Asians as convenience and votes, that's all. None of our concerns are important in their eyes.
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u/Alaskan91 Verified 1d ago edited 1d ago
Read my comments history under my profile on Seattle.
Seattle has always cannibalized its asian community to benefit non asians
The terrible pro- tenant laws are just one of them. If you follow the rules and rent to the first qualifies applicant, and then they decide to not pay, your looking at 1 year od unpaid rent plus tens of thousands in lawyer costs to get them out. Many tenants even target asian landlords on purpose. I always advise asians to not use their ethnic names on zillow. Asian business can't even get insurance nowadays bc they have been robbed so much.
a tiny portion of it is asians not really doing anything about it. There are workarounds, but mist asians don't like to think like that. They would rather think in a straight line eve. If they get screwed. It's why the courthouse are filled with 2 lines --Chinese, Koreans, japanese, filliojnos and hawaiians trying to evict non paying tenants, who are 90 percent non-asian minorities.
Non asian minorities fight for their own benefits, and are never burdened by the moral high road that asians love to take
Asians are way too reasonable while non asia minorities fight like crazy for their rights. They will protect their own even if it's not moral. They are NOT burdened by these 'take the high road' concepts that asians take, which is really an excuse to be a pu$$y.
In fact, a few months ago and acquaintance had his young son, bite in the face off*in a nicer Seattle public school by a non asian minority boy. This school asian population was higher than it's non asian minority population.
The few admins the same race as the biter boy, came to his defense and made up some BS about him identifying as a wolf and protecting his territory. This BS flies in Seattle bc its the land of the woke. Anyways, the asian admin, who outnumbered the non asian minority admin, did NOTHING.
sso this non asian minority boy got away with biting the cheeks off on this asian boy so bad he had to get hospitalized and got so much intravenous antibiotics he still has gastrointestinal side effects from the antibiotics killing off his gut flora. He also had to undergo facial plastic surgery by a trauma and facial reconstructive surgeon.
What dis other asian parents do?? Other asian parents stayed far away from the incident. It's every asian goal in life to be overly scared, be selfish, not band together, and to reduce risk as much as possible, who cares about rewards! god forbid banding together and demanding right since that cuts into violin, piano, and kumon time. God forbid!
Meanwhile in los angeles TENS of thousands of non legal 'immigrants' organized to block 16 lane freeways in both directions by getting up early and putting cones up and then having thousands pour in. Waving the Mexican flag and saying no person is an illegal person they were all about their rights, not the rights of those trying to get to work. They shut down multiple freeways in downtown Los Angeles. Asians would never
https://www.youtube.com/live/VbJsnvsbVLQ?si=8FzEWh4rsYO-so-6
Asians would be way too reasonable and think, if I did that, I would harm millions of ppl ability to get to work on time!
Would asian cause such disruption? No , asians are too polite snd lack the selfish gene needed to survive in this country
Asians can't even cause disruptions on a smaller scale proportionate to their population numbers. Maybe that is why WMAF is on every block in Seattle. Women can't wait to gtfo out their tribe, whose lack of unity is outrageous. And people blame Hollywood. LOL.
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u/pocketofsushine 500+ community karma 1d ago
Yup, we’re just a tool for the political goals of others fuck them all
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u/CuriosityStar 500+ community karma 2d ago
I never believed in real allyship from them anyways.
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u/Worldly_Option1369 500+ community karma 1d ago
We have to be pragmatic, real or not the more support for our movement the better. Even MLK had to appease white people, as stated in his Letter from Birmingham Jail.
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u/Alaskan91 Verified 1d ago
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u/Worldly_Option1369 500+ community karma 19h ago
Yeah fair enough, until we can effectively organize our own communities we shouldn’t even be looking for “allyship.” I don’t see how calling Asians pu$$ies helps though, only perpetuates stereotypes for the lurking whites here.
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u/bunbun8 50-150 community karma 1d ago
This sounds desperate or comes from a position of weakness, IMO. "Fake" allyship sounds like you are wasting people's time and effort or may actually cause harm to the community.
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u/pocketofsushine 500+ community karma 1d ago
Concept like allyship are how you stifle real progress into a meaningless slow crawl, effectively moving nothing and getting nowhere. Asians need real progress before allyship is even palatable
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u/bunbun8 50-150 community karma 1d ago edited 1d ago
There's also an unstated hierarchy dynamic in "allyship" between two groups that's often not really addressed in these types of leftist politics. It's a function, IMO, of things like how much political power a group has, it's cultural capital, population size, etc.
At 6% percent of the US population and no discernable, independent AsAm political leadership class outside R and D networks...wolves are at your doorstep, beware.
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u/pocketofsushine 500+ community karma 1d ago
So true. It’s incredibly ignorant to not recognize Asians at this moment in time are nothing to other groups but a political tool for their own motives. Discretion highly advised!
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u/pocketofsushine 500+ community karma 2d ago
don’t discount it completely, but there’s a time and place for it, Asians haven’t made enough progress to even consider it yet tho, especially not during a time as critical as COVID Asian Hate crime epidemic. If we’re being real those effects are still lingering to this day
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u/Relevant-Cat-5169 Contributor 2d ago edited 2d ago
It's Trump getting re-elected that stopped many type of crimes. Or maybe they are not reporting it anymore?
Under Biden it only encouraged these people with their ridiculous low to no penalty for committing crimes. The lawlessness was unreal.
It's like two extremes, it's either a fascist or you can do whatever you want democrats. Neither party really cares about Asians. To whites they will do the bare minimum to get Asians to shut up. In a way Trump tough stance on crimes that keeps these people in check.
With a population that doesn't give a shit about consequences, democrats are just too soft. Not to mention they need please certain racial minorities for votes.
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u/Alula_Australis 2nd Gen 1d ago
Man the voting system in this country is so fucked up. We really need ranked choice or some way to get more than 2 options at the polls.
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u/kosmos1209 50-150 community karma 2d ago
One of the first thing he did in 2021 was pass the “Covid-19 hate crime act”, which provided additional funding to local law enforcement for investigation and law enforcement. It was really up to the local law enforcers to use this fund that were now available for hate crimes, which meant additional hours and energy local police could spend. Whether they did it or not is unclear.
After that, there wasn’t that many actions from the federal government although this law is still in place for local police to draw funds from for antiasian hate crimes. Don’t let Trump know about though, he’d probably defund it real quick
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u/catathymia 50-150 community karma 1d ago
The truth is that a lot of this has little to do with the party in power and more to do with how local police precincts handle crimes and law enforcement. Plus, the unfortunate reality is that hate crimes are very hard to prove in the court of law, which is why they're very rarely brought up or used.
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u/nissan240sx 500+ community karma 1d ago
Cool, but was the hate crime act ever applied to black people in California? Serious question. Edit: rephrase, has a black person been charged with a hate crime toward Asians with this act in place?
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u/pocketofsushine 500+ community karma 2d ago
The act was a farce, it didn’t do shit, the FBI, the media, the DOJ didn’t drop the hammer on any of the pieces of shit that were attacking Asians, you know it and so does everyone.
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u/accesslet 500+ community karma 1d ago
Russel Brand claimed to be Liberal and supporter of Democrats and later on said he realized he's actually right-wing and conservative. Both Democrats and Conservatives are the same thing. Expecting both parties to speak up for safety of minorities is simply not possible. It's dependent on the individual in power. However the Conservatives started the anti-Asian hate in the first place.