r/bayarea • u/Front-Resident-5554 • 1d ago

Politics & Local Crime California to Negotiate Trade With Other Countries to Bypass Trump Tariffs

https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414
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u/runsongas 1d ago

and then federal money gets cut from CA, what's the plan then? secede and lose the 2nd American Civil War?

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u/MD_Yoro 1d ago

California is a net contributor to the federal tax revenue.

We put out more money than we receive.

We can 100% just run on state and local taxes assuming we can stop paying federal taxes.

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u/runsongas 1d ago

which would be in a secession situation, but good luck with the state coming out of that unscathed

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u/MD_Yoro 1d ago

Wouldn’t it be secession to be making deals with foreign countries as a state too?

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u/PvesCjhgjNjWsO4vwOOS 1d ago

Secession is secession. Making deals with foreign nations (or imposing tariffs on other states, as some have mentioned here) without the consent of Congress is a violation of Article I, Section 10 of the US Constitution.

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u/runsongas 1d ago

probably just some Arrested Development style light treason, better check with Barry Zuckerkorn first

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u/Xezshibole 1d ago

Work off the state and local taxes?

Considering Trump intends to further cut federal, it's free game for state and local to pick that up and thereby maintain the state/local services in the inevitable deterioration of federal funding/services.

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u/runsongas 1d ago

there is no way the state could run off just state and local taxes, already a huge deficit even with federal funds coming in

unless if you are thinking that the state starts keeping FICA/SS which has a snowball's chance in hell of being ignored by Trump

the only road any escalation leads down is to Trump sends federal troops into CA and declares martial law

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u/Xezshibole 1d ago edited 1d ago

That federal government's budget deficit is entirely from federal legislature's stagnation, from Republicans unwilling to cut popular services yet wantonly cutting taxes, to Democrats unwilling to restore tax rates to pay for services they're protecting.

The state government doesn't have that problem since 2013, when it acquired supermajority. It's not in debt, and only really ever runs into a very short deficit when the stock market tanks. Something it consistently fixes by the next year.