r/boxoffice • u/chanma50 Best of 2019 Winner • 14d ago
International ‘Snow White’ Bashful With $87.3M Global Bow; ‘Captain America: Brave New World’ Crosses $400M WW – International Box Office
https://deadline.com/2025/03/snow-white-captain-america-ne-zha-global-international-box-office-1236347275/329
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u/JuliaX1984 14d ago
Appropriate because that film also updated a sweet, innocent, angelic, extremely feminine character, and franchise fans LOVED the result.
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u/its_LOL Syncopy 14d ago edited 14d ago
Fr I loved Keanu Reeves’ Shadow
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u/PsychologicalEbb3140 14d ago
Yeah I was surprised how well he worked, I was initially a little disappointed it wasn’t Hayden Christensen. But I think Keanu’s age helps the character a lot as a contrast to Sonic.
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u/VNProWrestlingfan 14d ago
Maria.... Her death was even more tragic. No saving Shadow, no final words. She just...died.
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u/Dycon67 14d ago
I got mufasa vs sonic flash backs that happened in this sub by this image.
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u/UltimateIncineroar Marvel Studios 14d ago
"Let's fight somewhere empty."
[Mufasa is packed]
"Nevermind."
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u/Stonecost 14d ago
In a weird way that's sort of the best version of the joke because Mufasa theaters were pretty empty on opening weekend when it and Sonic 3 came out. But the fight would need to change venue after that
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u/UltimateIncineroar Marvel Studios 14d ago
Valid, lol. With how big of an event it was, I always forget Mufasa had such a slow start.
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u/AccomplishedBake8351 14d ago
And just like that Snow White will now beat sonic 3 lol
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u/Acceptable_Shine_738 Netflix 14d ago
Nah it’s about to make less than the first Sonic movie at this rate
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u/AccomplishedBake8351 14d ago
Maybe, but sonic memes taunting live action Disney IPs have a history of changing by things
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u/Impossible_Usual_277 14d ago
Deadline doing the absolute most to avoid acknowledging this as the box office bomb it is
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u/Optimism_Deficit 14d ago
They've got to fit a dwarf pun in the headline, and there isn't a dwarf called 'Faceplants'.
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u/Electrical-Table8076 14d ago
Trade shills gonna shill.
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u/MoonoftheStar 14d ago
It's just professionalism and curtesy. Remember this is these people's jobs.
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u/Sebscreen 14d ago
As journalists, their professionalism and courtesy is to the truth first and foremost, then to their audience.
If their reporting can be skewed to cater to and echo the PR points of corporations, then their work and entire profession literally has no purpose anymore.
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u/MoonoftheStar 13d ago
Thanks for the lecture but they are telling the truth. There have been no lies told. Or were you just after a contentious headline?
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u/Sebscreen 13d ago
didn’t materialize in part because audiences didn’t feel a sense of urgency
note that it’s unlikely any of the so-called controversy surrounding the film played a role
I am not taking a stance on the matter either way. But what diligence, research, or standardised survey did they undertake to arrive at the above two conclusion?
You feeling really really strongly about the matter is not due diligence. The fact that your earlier comment was so unanimously and horrendously downvoted should clue you in as to how accurate their claims about popular opinion are.
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u/MoonoftheStar 13d ago
I am not taking a stance on the matter either way. But what diligence, research, or standardised survey did they undertake to arrive at the above two conclusion?
Perhaps you should ask them??? Are there no feedback processes or way to contact the person who wrote the article to find out for sure? Do you actually want to find out or do you just want to make claims in the comments on Reddit?
The fact that your earlier comment was so unanimously and horrendously downvoted should clue you in as to how accurate their claims about popular opinion are.
No. Downvotes on Reddit is not proof of anything. The fact you suggest this after questioning the claims of a respected journalist's lack of published study is funny though.
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u/Sebscreen 13d ago
Perhaps you should ask them
The burden of proof has always been on the party putting forth new information. The fact that those complete disgraces who have already lost all respect prefaced their information with vague BS like "unlikely" and "in part" shows a very obvious switch to an imprecise and scared reporting style.
Amoral values aside, them being incapable of typing out "a survey of moviegoers across 7 overseas markets found..." if they actually do have a source is exceedingly bad writing and journalistic instincts.
Downvotes on Reddit is not proof of anything
They are indeed not proof of much. But they still reflect prevailing sentiment far better than the NOTHING you are basing your argument on. And they also show what a terrible communicator you, personally, are.
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u/MoonoftheStar 13d ago
The burden of proof has always been on the party putting forth new information. The fact that those complete disgraces who have already lost all respect prefaced their information with vague BS like "unlikely" and "in part" shows a very obvious switch to an imprecise and scared reporting style.
So ASK them for proof.
Amoral values aside, them being incapable of typing out "a survey of moviegoers across 7 overseas markets found..." if they actually do have a source is exceedingly bad writing and journalistic instincts.
Sure. Irrelevant to whether or not they are lying as you claim they are but you're free ro criticise how the article os written.
They are indeed not proof of much. But they still reflect prevailing sentiment far better than the NOTHING you are basing your argument on.
A prevailing sentiment in a niche echochamber is not "better than nothing.".In fact, it's worse than nothing since it can cause misinformation.
And they also show what a terrible communicator you, personally, are.
The embodiment of irony.
I'm gonna leave it here. This was a complete waste of time and you're clearly just looking for an Internet win. Hope you feel fulfilled.
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u/Totallycomputername 14d ago
Snow White and the 7 reasons this movie lost a lot of money.
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u/ZanyZeke 14d ago
Spending $270M on a SNOW WHITE MOVIE is #1
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u/Robodad3000 14d ago
And that’s before the massive reshoots and the additional post work to redo the dwarves. The real cost is closer to $450 million. Some sources are saying the loss for Disney will be $300 million.
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u/ihatemetoo23 14d ago
- Gal gadot can't act her way out of a paper bag and people have finally realized it.
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u/legendtinax New Line 14d ago
You were the one who brought up politics 💀
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u/Riceowls29 14d ago
Yeah? Your post is filled with political takes so it’s silly to clap back at someone else for being political.
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u/qalpha94 14d ago
Both. I mean, I generally agree with the list, but let's not pretend it's not partially political.
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u/nicolasb51942003 WB 14d ago
It's just getting started. The second weekend could involve the stars pinning failures on whoever, and more mockery from the rip cam version of the film.
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u/DarkJayBR 14d ago
YouTube movie critics are going to rip this one a new hole when the RIP cam comes up. It’s such easy money with barely any effort.
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u/bigelangstonz 14d ago
Less than the marvels
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u/Block-Busted 14d ago
I can confirm that The Marvels was better than this.
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u/Cendrinius 14d ago
Give Brie Larson some credit. Unlike Rachel, she learned the value of shutting up.
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u/Block-Busted 14d ago
Frankly, I don’t think Larson said anything that was truly rage-inducing even by “that” standards.
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u/Cendrinius 14d ago edited 14d ago
You're not wrong, but that's also kind of my point. Sometimes in life, the "best" thing to say is nothing at all.
(They say, "Silence is golden," for good reason, after all!)
In learning to keep silent, it was literally impossible for Brie to "mess up," anything for herself, which helps her come off as more "likable."
(There was no new ammo to be twisted against her.)
In contrast, Rachel just can't seem to help herself, refusing to understand that she's only making things worse.
(As an example, her "I don't need your business" really came off as a tantrum from a spoiled brat)
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u/IronGums 14d ago
I think she needs their business
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u/Cendrinius 14d ago
No question.
Quite frankly, it was just a stupid thing to say in general because even if she herself might escape unscathed by shifting to theater work, the rest of cast and behind the scenes people aren't so fortunate.
(Her comments basically endangered their lively hood.)
It just made her look uncaring and all around entitled, like nobody matters but her.
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u/Frozen_Pinkk 13d ago
I'm sure her and many of those involved thought there would be enough going to the movie that they infact, didn't need their business.
What she didn't do, was see TLM, saw how it flopped, and think Snow White with her wouldn't flop harder. That said, I'm sure she got paid the same whether it was a success or not, and she may just think she'll be above it failing.
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u/poopypoopy1125 14d ago
didn't all Brie just say was that there should be more critics who aren't white guys?
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u/Cendrinius 14d ago
That was her clarification, yes.
But you have to remember that before that, she'd worded it rather poorly, which was easily twisted into her coming off like she hated her customers and was ungrateful for the role in general.
(And the damage was done)
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u/Sebscreen 14d ago
The $50M+ hoped for overseas ahead of the launch didn’t materialize in part because audiences didn’t feel a sense of urgency
How can these people even look themselves in a mirror can call themselves professionals? If there is literally no evidence behind any wild speculation, simply leave it out of the article and stick to reporting factual numbers.
Did they poll the overseas audience and receive a unanimous "we're totally planning to see it later this month, just waiting for opening week crowds to thin out" before pulling "lack of urgency" out of thin air?
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u/clock_watcher 14d ago
It could be a polite way of saying audiences view this film as Disney+ content fodder and will wait 12 weeks for it to hit streaming.
It's not like you have to rush out to see it to avoid spoilers. A Disney remake of a classic fairytale is as far from that as possible.
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u/Sebscreen 14d ago
By the way, the very next line is:
note that it’s unlikely any of the so-called controversy surrounding the film played a role
"Note" as if it is an objective fact being reported, "so-called" as if it contradicts the definition of controversy, "unlikely" with absolutely no research or substantiation to explain how they reached that assessment.
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u/Vorapp 14d ago
That moment when Rammstein - Sonne video (inspired by SW) will end up more popular, better revenue/cost than a $300M monster.
Seriously, just imagine if Disney sold naming rights to Twisted Pictured, which would release a R-rated version of Snow White and Seven Miners (dwarfs, and fuck you Tyrion)
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u/rov124 14d ago
Seriously, just imagine if Disney sold naming rights to Twisted Pictured, which would release a R-rated version of Snow White and Seven Miners (dwarfs, and fuck you Tyrion)
Why would anyone pay Disney for Snow White rights? Isn't the story in the public domain?
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u/RandyCoxburn 14d ago
I think it has to do with the familiar depiction of Snow White being copyrighted by Disney.
Anyone can adapt the story, but there's a recognizability factor involved--If your dwarves don't look like the Disney ones, it's more likely the audience will pass on it.
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u/contemplatingdaze 14d ago
If Disney went the Maleficent route with most of their remakes - darker and from the villains point of view - they’d be better in general. They don’t even need to make them anti heroes or redeemable. It would have been a great twist on classics people love, giving us nostalgia bait AND new stories.
R-rated Snow White would have been awesome.
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u/Stefmeister71 14d ago
I think that's what they're doing with hercules and focusing on Hades point of view so that's a start I guess lol
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u/AcaciaCelestina 13d ago
Hopefully they do some justice for Hades in that regard, ever since Hercules media only presents him as an outright villain for the most part despite him probably being one if the "nicest" of the Olympians
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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 14d ago
A body horror Snow White film similar to Get Out.
The evil witch is trying to steal the young princess' body to transfer her soul to it.
But due to a last-minute intervention by the 7 Dwarves, both the Queen and Snow White must now spend the rest of their days as little people!
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u/UMAbyUMA 13d ago
Why does Snow White’s design in this movie look so… unappealing?
Leaving aside that disastrous hairstyle, her bright blue top and neon yellow skirt look like a bargain-bin Halloween costume. The original deep blue and soft yellow were far more elegant.
Even without touching on the plot, the visuals alone feel cheap.
Did Disney make this just to sell Halloween costumes?
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u/ComfortablyAnalogue 13d ago
For me the iconic yellow/blue/red costume looks just weird. It looks very instagram reels somehow. Not enough details, modern cut, uber saturated colours, but the over-all design looks somewhat faux-historic. Like it is trying to be "Mirror Mirror" and original Snow White at the same time but failing at it both.
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u/knightoffire55 14d ago
I wonder if Disney was going to make Snow White in the early 2010s but Universal beat them to the punch.
I wonder how well that would've done.
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u/brunbrun24 14d ago
Universal and Lionsgate (SW and the Huntsman and Mirror Mirror) turned out better Snow White movies than this US$300 million abomination
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u/PastBandicoot8575 14d ago
Some people actually thought this dud would hit a billy
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u/MARPJ 13d ago
Just look at my reminder me list and found this guy saying the same about 3 months ago. Worst is that this one had seen the trailer and still said it XD
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u/merchantivories 13d ago
anyone else remember when people said this would be a hit internationally bc rachel zegler is latina and therefore more "acceptable" for international audiences? pepperidge farm remembers
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u/MARPJ 13d ago
Ok, I want a link because that is very stupid. Most of the world just dont care about race at all (you americans that are hyperfocused on it), and the few places that due its because they are racist themselves (think on how Disney hide black people from posters in China)
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u/merchantivories 13d ago
hopefully this would link correctly but [here] (https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1j47fy5/comment/mgck8pj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) is an example. i have seen many other comments around the time TLM was in theaters
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u/merchantivories 13d ago
also not sure why you're assuming i'm american bc i certainly am not one 😭
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u/NonchalantGhoul 14d ago
Honestly, it was kinda mediocre. I wasn't a fan of the prince being replaced by a faux Robin Hood plus his thieving band, especially since the movie was constantly referring to the Southern Kingdom as if it was going to have some relevance. The Dwarfs introductions were unironically a great relief with Heigh-Oh and Whistle while you work.
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u/worldsbestrose 14d ago
Why did they add sleeves to her dress?
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u/Longjumping_Task6414 Studio Ghibli 14d ago
Because Zegler has a super thin physique that would look weird without sleeves
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u/lazyness92 13d ago
Personally: if a live-action doesn't look like the original, it doesn't attract my attention. I'm sorry, but that's just the way it feels to me. This one was odd, what's up with the glows in the trailers while still looking dark
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u/HowlingBurd19 14d ago
Never have I ever wanted to see a movie fail more than this 💀
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u/HowlingBurd19 14d ago
I have to be honest, though. I think is a little too soon to say it’s 100% over. Because it’s only the first weekend and some high grossing movies have rocky starts. Maleficent had a bad opening weekend and with inflation, ended up making over one billion dollars by the end of its theatrical run. Hopefully this comment ages poorly, though 🤞
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u/cap4life52 14d ago
Good for cap 4 - maybe it makes another 10-15 million worldwide
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u/National-jav 14d ago
I'm thinking right around $420M if they don't do any double features with Thunderbolts. Maybe another million if they do.
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u/Financial-Savings232 14d ago
At that point, they have to do the double features just to get as close to the beak even as possible.
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u/SoftwareArtist123 14d ago
Which makes it almost over the breaking even point. A flop but not that bad. They might able to build upon it if they make a proper sequel.
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u/merchantivories 13d ago
anyways, that's good news for CA4 but the fact that it limped to get there should worry marvel execs. still, not bad to save face ig.
still don't believe the budget was only 180m though.
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u/Successful_Leopard45 A24 14d ago
Gal Gadot continues to bring nothing to the table
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u/Seraphayel 14d ago
Gal Gadot is really one of the most insignificant reasons why this movie is a bomb
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u/merchantivories 13d ago edited 13d ago
if anything her fans make up a certain percentage of the box office of this movie 😭
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u/The_Swarm22 14d ago
I think she’s done being casted in big movies after this.
Obviously she’ll be in Fast X: Part 2 whenever that releases but that’s an ensemble and she has another movie coming up called ‘The Runner’ for Amazon/MGM but after this wouldn’t be surprised if that doesn’t even get a theatrical release.
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u/E_yal 14d ago
Fast X and the runner alone will set her thru 2027 tho. And they are both in the only genre she's good at, straight action. Just like Keanu, Emilia Clark and 80% of marvel/DC casting, some actors good for very certain roles.
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u/DianaPrince2020 14d ago
Exactly! Like many other successful actors, they will just put her in projects that play to her strengths: beauty, little dialogue. Keanu Reeves spent years being called wooden with little acting capability and no range. He seems to have done reasonably well😬
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u/E_yal 14d ago
True. Gal and Keanu sits in the same table but there is one difference: the accent. As Israeli, I can 101% hear Gal's problems (Kal-El is very reasonable in Hebrew) and while her accent worked magically in woner woman it ruins many other projects. She should have focus in Pattyless WW3 when she had the chance.
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u/E_yal 14d ago
Blame Gadot in this mess is like a piece of shit which stick to a boat and says "yo, we are sailing". The movie was a pr mess due to zegled and the dwarfs even before the camera started to work. It's not like Jolie saved eternals.
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u/DianaPrince2020 14d ago
Unpopular opinion: Jolie isn’t that different from Gal. I find her acting overly dramatic and very self aware no matter the role. She was great in action but the emotive scream/crying roles highlighted her deficiencies in my opinion.
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u/Apprehensive-Quit353 14d ago
This just screams that you only watch action movies.
Comparing Jolie to Gadot is absolutely wild.
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u/DianaPrince2020 14d ago
Or it says that I have watched Jolie and, in general, think that she is overrated. In fact, I know it says that because I wrote it and know my intention behind it. I’m not saying that she is as poor an actress as Gal but I do think she was wildly overpraised because of her beauty. If anything, that’s the comparison, beauty privilege.
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u/SushiMage 14d ago
Lol jolie and gal aren’t at a similar level at all. Objectively, just on a basic line delivery level, gal is one of the worse in hollywood. She is also wooden like a lot of inexperienced actors are wooden. Whatever you think of jolie, and I’m pretty ambivalent towards her, she at least has the basics down and can emote competently.
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u/WolfgangIsHot 14d ago
Lol so true.
Some are totally forgetting that Angelina Jolie is an oscar winner with many $100M headlined movies under her belt.
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u/DianaPrince2020 14d ago
I realize that. I’m not saying she is on the same level as Gal as far as competency. Jolie has decent line readings. I do think that she over emotes and is less believable than other actresses unless she is playing an over the top action star or villain (like Malificent). Like Gal, I think her real marketable quality has always been her beauty.
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u/DianaPrince2020 14d ago
Agree that Jolie has the basics down and Gal does not. I meant that, imo, Jolie’s real successes were action movies. Also, I think Jolie’s beauty is what kept her hyped up more than any of the acting roles that she did.
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u/RepeatEconomy2618 14d ago edited 14d ago
I really don't understand what's so "wrong" with the dwarfs? Is it really a big deal that they used CGI to make the Cartoony Dwarfs from the Original animated masterpiece come to life? Sure you can do it also with practical effects but I think it's probably a bit easier to do it with CGI instead, I mean wasn't Dobby from Harry Potter all CGI too and nobody cared
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u/FrameworkisDigimon 13d ago
People don't have a problem with CGI being used to create characters. They have a problem with:
- CGI being used when there's no reason to do that
- and the film is enormously expensive
- and the suspicion that dwarf actors missed out on work because Disney lost their minds after an interview by Peter Dinklage
- and they hate the look of the resulting designs
Would people be so public in voicing their visceral dislike of the designs without all the other baggage this film has going on? I'm not sure, but genuinely the dwarfs look weird.
If this film was made in the 80s, the dwarfs would be muppets. There's a kind of charm to the characters in Labyrinth that comes from knowing they are incredibly well made puppets. CGI dwarfs are never going to have that charm because there's always a suspicion of "Surely this could have been done better".
If this film was made in the 00s, the dwarfs would be dwarf actors in make up and/or prosthetics. I know this because that's what they did with the goblins in Harry Potter. Dobby was CGI'd because there was no alternative and his part was minimised as much as possible because he was expensive (and other house elves were cut entirely).
Also, a key difference with Dobby is that the design was naturalistic... they were trying to make a whimsical fantasy series aesthetic look real, in order that it fits with a real environment. These dwarfs are the opposite. They're trying to make a whimsical cartoon aesthetic co-exist with live action characters and have both come across as native. Compare Who Framed Roger Rabbit where the toons are never meant to look like they're not cartoons. Instead of trying to avoid the dissonance, Roger Rabbit leans into it, making it part of the aesthetic choice. Based on the trailers (I haven't seen the film), Disney doesn't care about the dissonance so it just feels dissonant, not creative.
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u/Daydream_machine 14d ago
Well that’s just blatantly untrue and unfair to Gal. She has given the world so much, like unbelievable line readings and the gift of music!
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u/Dashaque 14d ago
lol i like one of the comments:
"She would have been amazing in the silent movie era."
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u/Flat_Shame_2377 14d ago
She’s very beautiful which makes Zegler an even more pathetic Snow White in comparison- if they are looking for inner beauty Gal takes that over Rachel as well.
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u/TyChris2 14d ago
Did Zegler do something to affect her inner beauty? Im out of the loop on the controversies of this movie
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u/Life_Marzipan_9950 14d ago edited 14d ago
she didn’t. she made a few jokes, which apparently women aren’t allowed to do and she exercised her freedom of speech by calling out magats. people who hated her casting because she wasn’t white enough for them decided to pivot to being fake outraged over said comments
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u/JuliaX1984 14d ago
Better than Mufasa domestically but worse than Mufasa worldwide. MUCH worse than Captain America Brave New World.
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u/OkDistribution6931 12d ago
Will easily be worse than IJ5, its global take of $384 was at least $80 million more than its budget where Snow White’s worldwide total is looking at being as much as $50 million below.
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u/darthyogi Sony Pictures 14d ago
Thats worse than i thought. 87M on a $250M budget is terrible. Snow White might be one of Disney’s biggest ever bombs.