TIL this film cost about $7 million more to make than John Carter, according to The Numbers.
You know, John Carter, one of the biggest bombs in box office history.
And that movie still finished with $282M worldwide, numbers that Snow White will get nowhere near.
Was ANYONE expecting Snow White to be a bigger bomb than John Carter? Because I sure as hell wasn’t.
EDIT: Hell, this is also going to be a bigger bomb than The Lone Ranger ($250M production budget, $260M WW), and Snow White is also more expensive than that movie too.
This is without a doubt, the biggest bomb in Disney’s history.
I’m surprised that no trades have brought those movies up, but Deadline felt it was necessary to compare it to fucking Catwoman (lol).
EDIT 2: Okay, ONE of the biggest bombs from Disney according to a lot of you, but still up there.
It also just FEELS like a worse failure than John Carter. John Carter was a pulp-era book hero who wasn't very well known to 2012 audiences, and flopped. They took a big swing and it didn't connect. Okay.
Snow White is a classic iconic Disney princess character familiar to everyone whether they've seen the original or not. Disney screwing up their own fairy-tale musical princess IP like this is just so very, very, very wrong.
Agree, should have been called by the same title as, gee, I dunno, the original book title it came from and marketed as such - an adventure sci fi movie.
Fair point. They kinda lost my interest when those photos came out of the "7 magical friends". At that point I'm thinking "what the heck are they even doing?"
I must have seen Flash Gordon the live action movie from the 80s at least 4 times on Broadcast TV. I must have seen Snow White at least 6. Kids who lived through that period, half of Gen X and some older Millennials have some level of nostalgia for both. Younger people way underestimate the nostalgia value of Snow White, since a significant number of this crowd still has kids and trends conservative. I really don't know why now people don't compare it with Light-year which has a similar mix of Gen-X DEI recoil combined with a butchering of a beloved IP.
Flash Gordon is definitely a boomer and pre-boomer nostalgia thing, it wasn't aimed at kids at the time at all. I think it's even less than John Carter at this point.
This again... John Carter's trailer was everywhere. Word of mouth didn't help once it was out. It's unrealistic that people would be 'oh, it's on Mars? Now I've got to see it!!' Most titles aren't too descriptive. The real problem is that John Cater tried to do succeed where other attempts at 'western with a sci-fi twist' had failed, while it didn't bring anything visually groundbreaking to the table. It didn't help that it was the template to other white-savior stories that the audience had seen before, so it felt derivative and outdated even if the source material was the 'original'.
Yep, it's the biggest bomb in history since it lost $237M while John Carter lost between $112M-200M (unadjusted for inflation, though The Marvels still surpasses the lower end of those estimates when adjusted).
I'd really like to see a comprehensive non biased poll, I know that's impossible cuz who would fund that and the internet is self selecting/biased heavily.
For me the initial thing with the dwarves and peter dinklage was fucking ridiculous so I was like, I dont really like this. Then the actual dwarves come out and it's so bad looking, and then finally it's a live action but in that some trailer the background is a cgi cartoon. Which, why are they doing live action if literally 99% of it is cgi????
This is without a doubt, the biggest bomb in Disney’s history.
Well, there is the Marvels to compete. Plus IIRC the 270m figure is more than a year old so the real cost after the extra reshoots and CGI is likely higher, however Disney did market this way less than normal while for the Marvels they did went all out - So if this get 190m or more WW then I would still put The Marvels as the biggest Disney bomb
192K lower than Dumbo's 2nd Thursday, which made 34 million more from that point. And with minecraft exploding, no way in hell is this getting anywhere close to 100 million, let alone Dumbo's 114.7 million total.
If Disney had just keep the original story ideas with a few tweaks I think they would have been fine but once the bad press and far right for their target it was over. That and the overly long production time. If anything Disney needs to have a zero social media clause outside of approved stuff for stars because she didn't help anything but create more controversy like Brie Larson did a while back. You got a big check shut the fuck up get off social media and do the approved media stuff. Randomly spouting what you believe does no one any good. Girl might have ruined her career because of social media.
The movie is shit. The far right was complaining about wicked for a month before its release and then half of them ended up giving positive reviews while still complaining about Cynthia and Ariana. Controversy can’t destroy a good product.
I agree with you that the main problem is that Snow White sucks according to critics and audiences. If Snow White was good it would have overcame the bad press and would have been a minor hit. The budget is too big to expect more than that.
Obviously the movie went through some plot overhaul and heavy reshoots, the actual plot wasn't that different and the Snow White is far from really empowered.
Mirror Mirror has the smartest and bravest Snow White so far.
As being “woke” goes, and how it’s viewed by the right, Snow White was a much larger target than Wicked. Zegler is very annoying in a condescending and patronizing way, where even if you’re somewhat indifferent to the political statements, you may find her annoying. Add in she said things to offend tens of millions of Trump voters in a contentious election year, Gal Gadot offends many on the left, and it’s just not a good movie, there isn’t much of an audience left.
Cynthia and Ariana were hated by that same crowd just as much and they still are hated by them. There were viral conservative twitter post with hundreds of thousands of likes complaining about them.The top YouTubers complained about them. Cynthia’s poster thing had more backlash than any comment Rachel made. Even Reddit had front page post mocking their physical appearance. Recency bias makes it seem like Rachel is getting it worse but when the press for Wicked: For Good starts again, we are going to be reminded just how much they are disliked and how it has zero impact on the box office.
If Snow White had decent costuming, normal looking dwarves instead of CGI monstrosities, and decent songs, the movie would made at least $300 million.
It was doomed to flop but the quality of the final product made it flop this hard.
yep. I don't buy that hate on social media can affect a box office performance of this scale. this is underperforming overseas too and I highly doubt foreign media is reporting about whatever the cast is saying. the movie isn't good. the source material is boring to adapt too. if sleeping beauty (a similarly outdated fairytale) was adapted with a focus on the princess, it would've bombed as well. they were smart to focus on the villain.
I think the only scandal that blown up overseas is rachel's interview about snow white. Even my country who likes everything disney did not see the movie because the lead actress dislike snow white. In east asia, it's probably because she does not look the part.
This makes me very happy. I guess destroying classic movies is not something movie goers are interested in. With Minecraft having a positive audience reaction and strong opening weekend, this movie is really in trouble. It is super bad, but not Cats level of bad so that some people would watch it for that. Just nobody is interested in this.
That is what the other person said. "north of 80m" means "above 80m" - so their guess is between 80m and 90m which I agree since the expected comparison now is The Marvels since Dumbo is ahead by too much.
After 14 days Snow White was about 1m more than The Marvels domestically, however it is losing hard on the dailies for the last couple days. The Marvels ended at 84.5m so as of right now it makes sense to think it will end on a similar position.
Things to note that The Marvels had a catastrophic fall in the third Monday (day 18) when it got its first sub 1m day with only 340k. While lacking the abruptness Snow White is on track to go below 500k next week - and what will decide its destiny is this weekend where it is going against the confirmed juggernaut Minecraft. I would not be surprised if it does below 5m during the weekend and if its garantee to end below The Marvels domestically, which would mean passing 80m by a hair at most
"Snow White" continues to drop rapidly. Yesterday was notably the film's last day in 4,200 theaters, and it's going to take a pretty big hit from the new competition in town, so we're definitely going to see some even steeper drops next week.
I was thinking, these movies make some part of their budget back at least from international sales. But even that is struggling at around the same number (75mil).
How long before that one user comes in and posts that gif of the evil Queen as the old lady laughing and going down the stairs, closing the door? Fine, I'll do it
Please don't speak this into existence. Elsa's ice magic and the non-human characters have a 99,99999% chance of looking cheesy in CGI.
And like with Frozen, Tangled and The Princess and the Frog are excellent foundations for stage musicals that can execute the magic elements creatively and live theatre comes with a different level of willing suspension of disbelief. Please just do that, Disney.
You can't let those employees goof off, is my right as an asshole to throw as many popcorn buckets as I can to let them work, even if I have to pay to see Snow White.
Put this in perspective guys, $689,000 / 4200 = $164 per location and let say $12 average, that's 13 People approximately per location......THIRTEEN!!!! Those theaters are facken empty!
Cinderella, Beauty and the Beast, Jungle Book, The Lion King, and Aladdin all made a lot of money. Aladdin did a billion in the box office.
People like Live Action remakes, what they don't like is Disney screwing with them. Mulan, The Little Mermaid, and now Snow White, these all had a billion dollar ceiling.
Damn that's unfortunate. As someone whose a massive fan of the original idk why you'd opt for seeing it in the same sterile CGI that they make all their live action with over just rewatching the classic 2D animated version 🤷♂️
Lilo and Stitch is going to be a massive hit, unfortunately. Mufasa was a big success. Beauty and the Beast grossed over a billion. They have Moana and Tangled on the docket next, which are both going to be huge. And they also have Frozen, which will also be huge.
The sad reality is these make money and Snow White was the outlier. Disney will more than make up for its failure later in the year
Damn I hope you're not right but it feels like you are. Honestly feels like Disney can throw any shit at the wall and so long as like 25% of it sticks it can right all the failure. Basically their business models with Star Wars and Marvel in action smh
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u/moviesperg 1d ago edited 13h ago
TIL this film cost about $7 million more to make than John Carter, according to The Numbers.
You know, John Carter, one of the biggest bombs in box office history.
And that movie still finished with $282M worldwide, numbers that Snow White will get nowhere near.
Was ANYONE expecting Snow White to be a bigger bomb than John Carter? Because I sure as hell wasn’t.
EDIT: Hell, this is also going to be a bigger bomb than The Lone Ranger ($250M production budget, $260M WW), and Snow White is also more expensive than that movie too.
This is without a doubt, the biggest bomb in Disney’s history.
I’m surprised that no trades have brought those movies up, but Deadline felt it was necessary to compare it to fucking Catwoman (lol).
EDIT 2: Okay, ONE of the biggest bombs from Disney according to a lot of you, but still up there.