r/classicwow 6d ago

Humor / Meme It's the same thing.

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 6d ago

Holy shit the cope in here is insane - so many swipers who have honestly convinced themselves they're doing nothing wrong.

Probably also hate all the bots as well heh.

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u/Complex_Tomato_5252 6d ago

"No, it's not pay to win, it's pay for convenience."  I cannot stand this logic.  They are the same thing. 

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 6d ago

100%

"I just pay so that the part of the game I find difficult is easy, how is that cheating? I'm so good!"

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u/sadspells 5d ago

Pay so that part of the game that is insanely grindy and boring isn’t an issue anymore as an adult with less time on their hands. I’ll take that. Haven’t bought but legit do not care one bit if someone does I don’t get this discourse

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u/sadspells 5d ago

So this is more of a jealousy thing?I am not really seeing how it affects you if someone doesn’t want to spend 100s of hours doing things they already did on original release when they had that kind of time. Not everyone in fact most people playing the game do not have that kinda time anymore

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

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u/sadspells 5d ago

Fair enough. Sadly rmt will never end whether people like it or not for the reasons I gave above. So might as well not let something out of your control bother you friend

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u/absolutelynotarepost 4d ago

Well considering it's been part of every single MMO since the concepts inception I suggest you play a different genre.

People will always buy gold, items, and accounts.

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 5d ago

Because if you're actually good at the game making gold isn't hard and can be very fun?

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u/MobilePirate3113 3d ago

As long as you do it with wow tokens, sure, whatever.

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u/Pocketpapaa 5d ago

You're confusing "difficult" with "annoying". Making gold isn't hard, it's time consuming.

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 5d ago

If you're bad at it sure.

I solo DMT, fun and requires skill to do well. Then I sell buffs for passive gold.

Regardless, if "it takes too long" is a concern you're playing the wrong game.

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u/Pocketpapaa 5d ago

You're talking about 1 of the many many ways you can make gold. Just because your version takes skill doesn't make it a blanket statement over making gold in general. Making gold doesn't require skill, it requires research.

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 5d ago

This entire game requires research to perform at any kind of level... I assure you that if every single player had to figure out everything about the game themselves people would not be talking about how much "better" players are today compared to vanilla.

And yes, I'm talking of one of the ways you can make gold.. a fun and skill based one, which you are welcome to do yourself with a hunter alt. Mages have fun farms as well, so do other classes if you bother to figure them out or do a little research.

My point was that the notion that farming has to be tedious and unskilled, thus justifying cheating to not do it, is entirely false. If people want skill based engaging farms, or passive farms, or whatever else then those things do exist. Because what they actually mean is "I don't wanna so I'll cheat".

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u/Pocketpapaa 4d ago

Listen, you're going into a crazy tangent about specifics. This isn't a pay to win game so buying gold doesn't get you ahead in anything but the stats on your character, unless of course you're paying to get boosted in arena, keys or raids but that's a whole nother topic. Buying gold is not cheating, especially since blizzard introduced buying and selling wow tokens.

Nothing about your argument proves your point, it only explains the way YOU make gold. If people buying gold affects your experience in wow then you have bigger problems than gold buyers

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 4d ago

crazy tangent about specifics

Sorry that you consider "completely disproving your point" to be a crazy tangent but it is what it is.

This isn't a pay to win game so buying gold doesn't get you ahead in anything but the stats on your character, unless of course you're paying to get boosted in arena, keys or raids but that's a whole nother topic.

No, it's the same topic. And yes, if you buy gold it VERY much is pay to win. Pay to boost to 60, pay for dungeon runs, join GDKPs for raid gear, buy as many consumes as you want. Of course it's pay to win.

Buying gold is not cheating,

It absolutely is.

especially since blizzard introduced buying and selling wow tokens.

Then go play a version that has wow tokens. Classic does not.

Nothing about your argument proves your point

It absolutely does, you're just desperate for your "achievements" to mean something when they don't. Because you cheated.

If people buying gold affects your experience in wow then you have bigger problems than gold buyers

Like infestation of bots and a completely fucked up economy as well as increased competition for raid slots against people with infinite resources?

You're a cheater. End of story.

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u/Pocketpapaa 4d ago

You stay on your endless crusade to stop gold buyers. I don't buy gold and people who do buy gold do not affect my experience.

you should pivot your aggression towards botting instead of gold sellers, if you stop bots you will succeed!

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u/acrazyguy 5d ago

That’s a disingenuous way of looking at it. Farming gold isn’t a challenge that requires skill to complete. It’s a mindless grind that takes a huge amount of time

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 5d ago

Not at all.

I solo DMT, a fun and skill based gold farm, then I sell buffs to people for passive gold while I'm doing other things.

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u/Asmodeus1885 5d ago

Aaaand it's part of the game you're choosing to play. Just because you don't like doing it doesn't mean you have the right to ruin the game for everyone by supporting bots.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

You wouldn't have a game to play without the bots sub money, so just say thank you to the gold buyers for keeping your game of choice alive. People buying gold doesn't impact you, and if you believe it "raises prices and devalues gold" then go do what you're telling everyone else to do and farm more, not hard is it? part of the game isn't it?

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u/Asmodeus1885 5d ago

That's...what I do? I don't get it lol

We actually got to a point where someone is telling me to "thank the gold buyers", that's just pathetic.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

And its pathetic to moan about something that happened since day 1, literally day 1, but you still do. What you think this reddit forum will make people stop? Get a grip. You cry about people buying gold ALL the time, its boring, same old tears different day. They literally fund your game, according to blizzard stats, and herre is a blue post quote “We hear folks say things like “just ban the bots” a lot. We ban tens of thousands of bots a week. It’s not visible to you just how much we do, and that is absolutely another problem in itself; we need to be better at surfacing these actions (more on this later). The truth is we’ve never been better and more effective at identifying and actioning malicious accounts, and our Game Security Operations (GSO) team that handle these actions are iterating and innovating on a nearly daily basis.” tens of thousands a WEEK, that's potentially millions a year if its only 20k per week. They feed your game, you think they would pay for servers and traffic if they didn't exist? Ill answer for you, no. You are deluded. You think blizzard will miss out on 10-15 mill just to make you happy? No. Grow up and thank them. Or at minimum stfu about it.

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u/Tebytorozo13 5d ago

That makes total sense... Is pay for convenience of winning at the game

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u/Rhobodactylos 5d ago

It's only pay to win if it's directly into the cash shop.

It's not pay to win if you buy gold [3rd party or token] and then the service from another player it's called PLAyer DriVEn ECoNOmY.

/s cause wow players are inept.

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u/TigerBone 5d ago

"Pay for convenience" is such a cope by everyone involved. It's literally just paying for an advantage. People who think it's not paying to win needs a reality check lol.

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u/stickymicky92 4d ago

You're that guy that stands outside a nightclub for 2 hours waiting to get in.....telling yourself that you need to do this grind to make it feel better when you get in....where as the guys walking past you just pay $20 to get straight in and enjoy it, haha.

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u/Ok-Jellyfish-2126 3d ago

You’re the guy that pays for a booth and bottle service and still has 0 women talk to him the entire night haha.

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u/stickymicky92 3d ago

Terrible analogy, but love the insult haha

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u/SubparSensei71 5d ago

If a game is inconvenient, why play at all let alone pay money to not play? I am truly baffled at the lack of introspection of gold buyers.

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u/YungJod 5d ago

All I read is I don't have disposable income and can't keep up

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u/Drizzho 5d ago

If you have to pay money to be “good” at the game, that’s pay to win.

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u/First-Detective2729 5d ago edited 5d ago

Sounds like you are actually playing a different game called "swipe the card"

Its easy to get confused with actual wow players. 

You see the person being paid to play your account/sell you gold is the one who is actually playing the game. 

😆 🤣 

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u/SubparSensei71 5d ago

Never played the game, I just enjoy this subreddit.

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u/YungJod 5d ago

Sorry people have real life responsibilities and you don't. Stay mad I guess I see both sides and personally doesn't affect me what's so ever cause I'm not a psycho

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u/Soapykorean 4d ago

It’s not even pay to win, it’s just pay to play lmao.

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u/stickymicky92 4d ago

The sad nerds in here are insane haha. They think farming Mara and running around looking for herbs make them tough and cool, lol. Farming gold doesn't make you a better player.

Gold buying makes sense. Talk shit with guildies and be social, do some dungeons, raids, top damage meters and run around and get world buffs - 8 hours of content a week. Right there - all fun. Do it all paying about $20 USD a week max. Have a full time job earning $250k a year and you get to go to the club and do Rack on Friday/Saturday as well and then punch out a raid on Sunday night.

Different strokes for different folks.

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 4d ago

Farming gold doesn't make you a better player.

Sure it does. Getting gold is part of the game, sorry you're bad at it.

Gold buying makes sense.

To cheaters I'm sure it does.

Right there - all fun.

So is farming gold if you're not awful at the game... sorry you're bad? I spend about one hour active and a few hours passive each week making gold. It isn't hard.

Have a full time job earning $250k a year and you get to go to the club and do Rack on Friday/Saturday as well and then punch out a raid on Sunday night.

Yawn, I'm very well paid and have a great social life. All the degenerate gold buyers I know are the sad losers who do nothing but play.. they just pay to not play while sitting at the keyboard.

It's really quite sad.

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u/stickymicky92 4d ago

You spend 4 hours each week (equivalent to 1 full evening after work) generating gold? Exactly what do you do to generate this gold and how much do you generate?

I can assure you now, the gold buyers are not the ones sitting at the keyboard.

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 4d ago

You spend 4 hours each week (equivalent to 1 full evening after work) generating gold? Exactly what do you do to generate this gold and how much do you generate?

Clear some DMTs for a fun and skill based gold farm, then sell buffs while alt tabbed for passive gold.

I make as much as I please. This week was 3k because I needed to stock up on consumes thanks to idiot gold buyers pricing everyone out.

I can assure you now, the gold buyers are not the ones sitting at the keyboard.

Heh of course not.

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u/nbandysd 6d ago

WOW token 😙

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 6d ago

That thing which isn't in classic?

Yeah cool story.

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u/nbandysd 6d ago

Not yet crodie 🫡