r/classicwow • u/Antalus-2 • 2d ago

Classic 20th Anniversary Realms Which class hard counters Rogues in a 1v1 open world scenario?

Seeing how toxic PvP servers are, there would be nothing more than to make a Rogue seethe in PvP. I'm think it's either hunters or warlocks but is there a best of the beat class to do the job well??

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u/Moondropbass 2d ago

Prot Paladin

Just laughed at rogues up to like 5 levels above you.

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u/Whoraks 2d ago

Can confirm Legit I gotta blow my cds to kill a 55 palli bro is just laughing at me the entire time XD

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u/Remnie 2d ago

One of my favorite moments ever was in TBC back in 2008. I was playing my prot paladin in AV and just dumpsterd a rogue who had warglaives.

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u/TheMrCeeJ 2d ago

With ret aura and shield spikes you didn't even need to attack them, it is hilarious watching them kill themselves.

Back in OG AV days I used to run a ret/prot build, and was basically immune to rogues, it was so much fun.

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u/Serothrine16 2d ago

I cant remember what patch, maybe wrath or cata but for i have a memory of druid thorns being so OP at one point as a resto druid could win duels aginst melee by just throwing up all my hots, thorns, then /dance

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u/Friisbook 2d ago

Could easily have been cata, i remember pyrite shield spikes being the absolute bane for fast hitters like rogue & druid

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u/Plane-Disk3651 2d ago

Kinda true, palas are so fucking slow tho you have to slowly burn through their mana while eating and healing yourself aha. I mainly just ignore them because I just can’t be arsed and they’re slow so bye I guess

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u/TheMrCeeJ 2d ago

Indeed. I wasn't able to stop them running away so we. Would just ignore each other. I would shoo them away from our healers and that was about it :p

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u/Luvs_to_drink 2d ago

Back in og wrath, my resto druid dumpstered rogues in duels. They couldn't dps through the hots alone and would die to thorns, insect swarm, and moonfire.

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u/22jarms 2d ago

In TBC with full boosting gear they just kill themselves it’s hilarious

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u/Banjo-Hellpuppy 2d ago

You gotta kill a pally 3 times if his CDs are up

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u/StainedVictory 2d ago

And it’s such a long time to kill!

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u/Plane-Disk3651 2d ago

I did this the other day took so fucking long going through all his cds. Yes I teabagged him I earned ot

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u/StainedVictory 2d ago

As a rogue main warriors and pallys are my least favorite to fight, I have to spend so much time and effort to maintain a small margin of victory.

It’s legit 1-3 minutes of me cc’ing resetting and in general just being the biggest cuck possibly tbh to get a win. And I know the other person is having no fun watching me sap, blind, vanish, cheap shot etc etc over and over again plinking away at their health.

The only exception is while everyone is leveling and yall ain’t sitting behind 6 inches of steel. Leather/mail warrior fights are BiS but mail paladins are fun af too.

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u/zugzug4ever 2d ago

A prot Pala with a decent thorns set can make ANY rogue just leave. The paladin doesn't even need to attack. It's pretty laughable.

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u/Jules3313 2d ago

its even worse in tbc, prot paladins fucking terrified me in tbc. i made the mistake of fucking with one during my herb route that he was also doing, and it was a horror game if he found me mid herb gather

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u/zerocoolforschool 2d ago

Doesn’t even have to be prot. I remember back in OG vanilla trying to duel pallies and they would just fuck me up on my rogue.

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u/gnaark 2d ago

Ret will struggle against a rogue, with dual spec you always duel a rogue with a perfect pvp spec

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u/Orangecuppa 1d ago

Well, depends on what kind of ret. Deep Ret? Yeah garbage against rogues. A PVP Reck Ret? Instantly destroys rogues.

A ret (with deep prot for reckoning) can reck bomb a rogue easily because all those mini crits stack up incredibly fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRfKEeGY3B8

Here's an example of a ret fucking up pshero, one of the best pvp rogues in classic, in 2seconds.

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u/gnaark 1d ago

Reckoning is such a gimmick spec I don't even want to talk about it.

You catch them without their saved 5 stacks and they are useless. It only works in a vacuum and against rogues.

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u/Orangecuppa 1d ago

Reckoning is such a gimmick spec I don't even want to talk about it. You catch them without their saved 5 stacks and they are useless. It only works in a vacuum and against rogues.

That's the whole point of this thread...

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u/gnaark 1d ago

and what are you gonna do? Sit around hillsbrad farming your stacks? No rogues will ever engage you or duel with you.  That spec just doesn’t work unless you jump people and you’ll almost never jump a rogue.

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u/johnseenahh 2d ago

Almost won against a prot pally the other night in AV took 5mins then a Druid came and helped him kill me lol prot pallies are killable just takes too much effort 😂

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u/MwHighlander 1d ago

Elemental Shaman is how you kill paladins.

Or Mages/Warlocks with good gear.

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u/CopeH1984 2d ago

Pretty sure this is the answer.

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u/meatmakerbaker 2d ago

Reckoning Pallies are a solid answer to rogue but wouldn’t call it a counter. Pretty RNG but you can global rogues which is hilarious.

We’ve seen it in duel tournaments. It mostly results in stalemates.

The rogue losing this is a skill issue and eventually the rogue should win. Will it be fun or worth the effort for either party? I personally don’t think so.