r/classicwow • u/Antalus-2 • 2d ago

Classic 20th Anniversary Realms Which class hard counters Rogues in a 1v1 open world scenario?

Seeing how toxic PvP servers are, there would be nothing more than to make a Rogue seethe in PvP. I'm think it's either hunters or warlocks but is there a best of the beat class to do the job well??

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u/NailRogue 2d ago

A good Druid is a menace in open world PVP.

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u/RLIwannaquit 2d ago

feral druid, (skilled) hunter, frost mage, or shadow priest are all pretty nasty too

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u/Daeron_tha_Good 2d ago

Assuming both classes have all CDs up, mage vs rogue is a skill match up. Could go either way.

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u/Pkock 2d ago

Also depends on location, a wise rogue will engage a mage where there is options to LOS.

I'm not a good rogue but the good ones remember that.

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u/StainedVictory 1d ago

The worst feeling is when you try to LOS and whatever object your doing that around doesn’t count lol.

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u/Pkock 1d ago

I feel like this applies to 80% of tree models in the game

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u/Yegas 2d ago

Ultimately, you’re right. I think that most of the skill relies on the mage & a Rogue will win at lower skill levels.

Mages have escape from the stunlock with Blink / Ice Block, they have lockup with permaslow and ice nova, and they can locate a vanished rogue with AoE

But if they fuck up their cooldowns and/or the rogue has imp sprint, it’s in the rogue’s favor.

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u/RLIwannaquit 2d ago

that's fair

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u/lorneagle 2d ago

Yeah but depends. Warlocks just kill you. Shadow priests just kill you, shamans mostly just kill you. Hunters and mages are ok quite easy, warrior and rogue are usually pretty decent matchups as well, but if they pull all cooldowns or stun-open on you out of form you just die.

That being said, if I get first attack out of stealth I'm only scared of priest and warlock.

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u/V0rticella 2d ago

Good balance druids in shadow resist gear shit on spriests

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u/stiffgordons 1d ago

The thing with warlock is if they’re just going about their business they’re probably going to be low on life and or mana at times, so just wait until they’re about to drain and hit them when they’re vulnerable.

If they’re playing super conservatively that’s harder, but damn is playing a lock conservatively boring…

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u/sskkwwaann 2d ago

He’s saying Druid vs those classes

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u/Double-Scratch5858 2d ago

What blew my mind recently that strictly 1v1 as a druid verse ranged classes is basically outlasting their mana pool and using moonfire/insect swarm to drain their health while staying out of range of them. This is all from the dueling perspective which is obviously a vacuum but thats what the top druid duelers do.

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u/Sp_nach 2d ago

Oh yeah, my bad then. I always get ruined by a good druid no matter what. They're always scary good

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u/raisingthebarofhope 2d ago

That's a really bad rogue then

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u/f-stop4 2d ago

Curious about the druid vs hunter match up.

I've absolutely dumpsterd druids on my hunter, it's not even close. I suppose they could all just be bad.

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u/Reapercussians 2d ago

Depends on spec. Scatter shot and feral charge are really important for both in this match up

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u/lorneagle 2d ago

I recently specced into moonglow /NS for better AV support.  With that spec I simply sleep or root the pet and stay close to the hunter with Moonfire/insect swarm and Rejuv in myself. I switch to cheetah to stay close whenever I get snared.

Hunter runs out of health quite quickly

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u/f-stop4 2d ago edited 2d ago

In my experience, it's more about timing the traps right and maintaining consistent distance. Scatter helps but isn't always necessary. Druids absolutely can close the gap, though they burn through shifting mana really fast removing wing clips and concussion shots.

BM is great spec for dealing with druids in the open world. Beastial wrath = no hibernate, intimidate creates that space to get Fd+trap off CD.

I've not once been got by a druid in a fair match up.

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u/Reapercussians 2d ago

Big true on bestial wrath

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u/HordeDruid 2d ago

As a Resto main, it usually comes down to who gets the drop on whom first. If I can spot them and hit them with a Faerie Fire, I can ruin their whole day. But if they catch me with a stunlock I'm pretty much dead already.

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u/Pkock 2d ago

They're good at escaping, that's for sure. Slippery as can be

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u/Never-breaK 2d ago

Not in classic lmao. I don’t think I’ve ever lost to a Druid straight up.