r/creepy 6d ago

Christopher Lloyd as Judge Doom at the climax of Who Framed Roger Rabbit before and after the animation was put over his face.

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u/birger67 6d ago

He is scarier without the animation layer lol

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u/Blotsy 6d ago

It's a kid's movie! Of course!

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u/VerminSupreme-2020 6d ago

The purpose of the animation wasn't to be scary though, it was the reveal that he was really a toon

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u/PIPBOY-2000 6d ago

Finally, a man of culture

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u/Auirom 4d ago

Saw this movie for the first time when I was younger and instantly fell in love. It's still in my top ten favorite movies even at 40.

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u/NotReallyJohnDoe 2d ago

The only movie with bugs and Mickey and Donald and Daffy.

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u/The_Autarch 6d ago

Roger Rabbit isn't really a kid's movie.

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u/Stinky_Fartface 6d ago

So tell me Eddie, is that a rabbit in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

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u/illy-chan 6d ago

Older cartoons used to drop all sorts of dirty jokes with the assumption that mom and dad will have a laugh and the kiddos won't get it enough to be impacted.

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u/fuqdisshite 6d ago

this is still the normal procedure.

nothing has changed.

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u/CzarDale04 6d ago

Like the song in the great mouse detective. When my friends and I seen it, when it came out, we all agreed that song could be taken differently depending on who was listening to the lyrics.

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u/Rhyara 6d ago

Let me be good to you 😉

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u/Passing4human 6d ago

Modern ones too. Anybody remember the produce scene in Wallace and Gromit: Curse of the Wererabbit?

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u/eatyourvegetabros 6d ago

shoe scene is burned into my memory. i’m about to be 36 years old. and i will fast forward that shit every. time.

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u/DariusPumpkinRex 6d ago

Eddie's buddy couldn't even look.

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u/TheAserghui 6d ago

Its totally a kids movie...

Jessica Rabbit is a well balanced diet for newborns

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u/Yuthirin 6d ago

You say that, but they absolutely made toys and stuff for kids from this movie. I had a Roger Rabbit sleeping bag and a few other things.

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u/treemu 6d ago

They made toys for R rated movies all the time

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u/BrothelWaffles 5d ago

Back in the 80s it was.

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u/BONESandTOMBSTONES 5d ago

If I recall correctly, the first scene is a cussing, cigar smoking baby. Lol

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u/TheFrontierzman 6d ago

Tell that to Jessica Rabbit.

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u/smurb15 5d ago

Kids movie that gave me fucking nitemares thanks to him. Still love his acting

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/birger67 6d ago

nah too many blinking lights behind those eyes, deffo aint him lol

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u/KingSash 6d ago

Agreed, it's hard to recognize him

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u/Beerasaurwithwine 6d ago

He scared the everlovin snotberries out of me when I was younger.

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u/Oli_VK 6d ago

He actually gave me a fear of cartoonish killers that’s why i hate ART the clown

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u/Beerasaurwithwine 6d ago

His eyes used to terrify me so bad...used to think I saw them when it was dark. I actually have a visceral fear of clowns...but for some reason Art the Clown is the only one I'm not afraid of.

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u/Oli_VK 6d ago

Complete opposite for me, clowns bother me none but that thing… idk, fucks with me. That’s fair though the eyes were absolutely the stuff of nightmares, cartoonish crazy eyes on a real person basically, to showcase he reached what he wanted and it made him go mad.

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u/Beerasaurwithwine 6d ago

The terrifier movies give me the giggles so hard, I can actually watch them by myself. Most horror movies I can't watch by myself because I'm a chickenshit. I can't even deal with clown art or real clowns..I have passed out from fear a couple of times when I came face to face with clowns...as an adult.

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u/YourFinestSkittles 6d ago

The Terrifier movies make you giggle?! I'll have what you're having

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u/izzyboy63 6d ago

It was the start of my life long fear of red eyes

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u/dragonfry 6d ago

The Dip traumatised me. I want to watch it with my kids, but once they’re in their 20s.

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u/Beerasaurwithwine 5d ago

Thank you for awakening a childhood trauma. I had forgotten that part. I cried so hard. After we watched it, my Dad announced we were going to go for a dip in the neighbors pool. He did not understand why I got hysterial.

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u/GoOnRice 5d ago

One of the most brutal scenes of my childhood

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u/CHARDMETAL 6d ago

Because when I killed your brother…I talked….liiike…thiisss

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u/s0calsir3n 6d ago

Nightmare fuel. 10/10

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u/hylianbunbun 6d ago

the way i can still hear his voice

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u/DariusPumpkinRex 6d ago

The terrified look on Bob Hoskins' face seals it for me.

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u/ItsDominare 6d ago

The bit where it shows you Eddie's POV as Doom waves a circular saw in his face is up there too.

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u/IrksomFlotsom 6d ago

Awww man, that poor shoe :'(

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u/Kayestofkays 6d ago

He was squeaking for his life 💔

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u/its9am 6d ago

Him melting that poor little shoe character still haunts me

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u/SamwisEGangeefff 6d ago

You are not alone 😭

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u/cerberus00 6d ago

One of the saddest deaths on film imo

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u/meldiane81 6d ago

That really does still haunt me too. I logically know it’s a cartoon, but I still can’t get over the hurt.

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u/ManWithTwoShadows 5d ago

Him melting that poor little shoe character still haunts me

Yep, and the exact same thing happens to him later in the movie. Karma's a bitch, right?

BTW, these two posts might make you feel a little bit better, just a little bit.

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u/MrWatson193 6d ago

Jesus, he's almost as terrifying without the effects.

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u/metaphics 6d ago

I loved Lloyd’s take on this character, with its switch from menace to manic threat. I was always a little bummed we never got a movie reveal of the full animated character.

Also, it’s my favorite bit of trivia from this movie that Tim Curry auditioned for this role but was rejected as being too frightening.

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u/Whiteoutlist 6d ago

I just listened to that YouTube video that was a deep dive into the making of who framed Roger rabbit. They also mentioned that the cloverleaf storyline was lifted from a proposed sequel to Chinatown.

https://youtu.be/g-9waJlhmOg?si=R82tz9Jt4XtT3kqe

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u/ImaginaryMastadon 6d ago

Yes! It’s got all the Chinatown elements.

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u/SummerAndTinkles 6d ago

There’s a popular theory that he’s Pistol Packin’ Possum, a character we see a poster of in RK Maroon’s office, since he has the same red eyes and at one point his gun lines up perfectly with Doom’s.

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u/Vince_Clortho042 6d ago

I remember at one point he was going to be revealed as the hunter that killed Bambi's mother, but someone high up at Disney (probably either Eisner or Katzenberg) overrode that.

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u/SummerAndTinkles 6d ago edited 6d ago

Yeah, it was mostly because it conflicted with the idea of toons being actors.

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u/whiteboypizza 5d ago

I’ve loved this theory ever since I first read about it because it raises some interesting questions about his underlying motivation. Maybe PPP was the original Maroon Cartoon star before Roger and Baby Herman stole his spotlight, which drove him off the deep end? That’s always been my idea anyway.

In the end I do like how mysterious Doom is; we never find out who he is or where he came from. You assume at first he’s doing it for money, but why does a Toon need money? Why is he cool with genocoding his own race just to build a freeway? He’s psychotic even by Toon standards. He’s so much fun

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u/ImaginaryMastadon 6d ago

That’s true, Mickey Mouse asks, ‘I wonder who he really was’ but it’s too late, as the dip has melted his toon form and now we’ll never know!

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u/Mortis_XII 6d ago

That movie is still held highly as an animation+live action marvel

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u/Mottis86 6d ago

We will never get anything like it ever again, sadly. I'm happy to be born just at the right time to see this movie as a kid.

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u/volcano-ngh 6d ago

The black and white, plus the filter does this man dirty lol.

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u/EgbertSouse1940 6d ago

The reason for black and white is that to correctly overlay the animation elements for the entire film, the easiest way was to create monochrome blowups of each frame. Also, workprints were still often in black and white anyways to save costs, so it wouldn't be too different in editing. They also shot anything intended for animation or effects in VistaVision, to make up for the extra generations of film needed for a final composite.

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u/nightmareonrainierav 6d ago

In college I took some broadcast/video production courses around the time file-based capture was taking hold, but the field was still figuring out how to transition from offline tape workflows. Got me really interested in reading about how cinema was edited (which was not 100% digital for feature films until surprisingly recently). This is fascinating stuff, and really gives you an appreciation for the craft if you've only ever put together something with NLE.

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u/Kmic14 6d ago

LOVE this movie. I got to see it on the big screen a few weeks ago and it was fantastic!

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u/SamwisEGangeefff 6d ago

I’m so jealous!!

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u/Kmic14 4d ago

It's one of my all time faves for over 35 years but the first time I saw it in the theater. I felt like a kid again

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u/xlnyc 6d ago

I can hear this picture "....just like THIS !!!"

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u/FleetwoodMacGyver 6d ago

I thought that was Roger Stone for a second.

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u/Kactor11 6d ago

This guy is one of the forgotten actors of our lifetimes. He goes all out on every role he does and gets relatively little credit.

He’s 86…not sure how much time or how many roles he has left. But enjoy them! It’s hard not to.

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u/The_Autarch 6d ago

He was almost too iconic as Doc Brown. Dude got hyper-typecast to one role and was never given much of an opportunity to do anything else.

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u/ItsDominare 6d ago

He was great as Professor Plum in Clue (as was everyone else in that gem of a movie).

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u/synapseattack 6d ago

One of my favorite movies of all time.

One plus two plus two plus one

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u/Luster-Purge 5d ago

How the actual fuck have I lived this long and NOT known he was Plum?

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u/Frosty_Audience4288 4d ago

He was also hilarious in Dennis The Menace.

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u/Frosty_Audience4288 4d ago

As Switchblade Sam. Lmao even that name cracks me up.

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u/jsb93 6d ago

I just see uncle fester lol

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u/CallMeMich 6d ago

Met him at FACTS in Ghent, Belgium once. Asked him to sign my Back to the Future vinyl cover.

Whilst signing I told him “Thank you for making me be in absolute awe whilst watching Back to the Future. Also thank you for the horrific nightmares you gave me after watching you portray Judge Doom in Who Framed Roger Rabbit…”

He snickered and said “You’re quite welcome”

Such a kind man!

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u/radiationcowboy 6d ago

He's so underrated. Great character actor.

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u/hasmanystories 6d ago

Christopher Lloyd??

Underrated??

Hi, I'd like to know about this fantastic alternative reality you're living in

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u/cerberus00 6d ago

Ronald Reagan, the actor??!

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u/DariusPumpkinRex 6d ago

Then who's vice president? Jerry Lewis?

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u/The_Autarch 6d ago

I dunno, it seems accurate when you think about it. Hollywood stopped giving him iconic roles after The Addams Family movies. Dude's been steadily working since then, but it's mostly bit parts and cameos.

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u/MysteriousWon 6d ago

Yeah. I think recent generations would probably know him most as one of the creative minds behind Modern Family. But even then, I doubt a lot would even be able to put a face to the name if they weren't already aware of him from like Back to the Future or something.

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u/Vertical_Edge 6d ago

you might know this but Modern Family was a different Christopher Lloyd

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u/MysteriousWon 6d ago

I did not know this!

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u/Timmah73 6d ago

The most fucked up timeline Doc Brown

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u/Deadpoolgoesboop 6d ago

REMEMBER ME, EDDY??

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u/icehopper 6d ago

Wow, I don't think I ever noticed, but it looks like his teeth are painted over

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u/DariusPumpkinRex 6d ago

He looks like he's got Chiclets for teeth.

For reference https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71HvKUWK+UL.jpg

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u/Doglicku 6d ago

It was my favorite movie in 3rd grade. I had the VHS tape and there was movie day at school. I brought it to school. The teacher said it had to be reviewed to be able to show it. So she gave it to the principal. I never got it back. I think back and it was a dumb idea. Being in a Catholic school and the principal was a nun. Prolly not too fond of Jessica Rabbit.

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u/l-rs2 6d ago

Just....like... thiiiiis!

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u/cosmicdancer84 6d ago

When he stuck that toon shoe into that vat of acid or whatever it was...that messed me up.

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u/JimmyLegs50 6d ago

THE DIP!

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u/cosmicdancer84 6d ago

That's what it was!!

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u/Taluca_me 6d ago

the thought that we almost got Tim Curry to star as Judge Doom would make this image more terrifying

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u/wemustkungfufight 6d ago edited 6d ago

Remember me, Eddie?! When I killed your brother, I talked JUST LIKE THIIIIIIIIS!!

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u/Pm-ur-butt 6d ago

Here it is, this is exactly how I remember him saying this line!

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u/Perenium_Falcon 6d ago

I remember this scene really fucking me up as a kiddo.

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u/Altimely 6d ago

This shit scared the hell out of me as a kid and still unnerves me today. The concept of living adjacent to 'toons' whose only concept of death is a punchline is terrifying.

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u/Gym_Dom 6d ago

Part of the reason Doom is so unsettling is because Lloyd never blinks in the movie. I feel like it comes through even when he’s got those smoked lenses on.

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u/DariusPumpkinRex 5d ago

Don't you appreciate the magnitude of that?

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u/frezor 6d ago

“Remember EDDIE?! When I KILLED your BROTHER?! I talked

###JUST

LIKE

THIIIIIIIIIS!!!**”

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u/DariusPumpkinRex 5d ago

And Eddie's horrified reaction. Bob Hoskins deserved Oscar props for that film since he was basically talking to thin air for most of the shoot.

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u/RealOfficerHotPants 6d ago

reminds me of that line in weird al's spiderman song

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u/ansem8981 6d ago

He kinda looks like boris karloff in the before picture

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u/high6ix 6d ago

Who wants some dip?!

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u/LottimusMaximus 6d ago

Resembles Hank Azaria

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u/Fidget_Jackson 6d ago

Nah, he was cookin’ without the animation. Way more menacing.

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u/nightclaw96 6d ago

Surprised!?

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u/cerberus00 6d ago

Not just any toooooooon!

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u/copernica 6d ago

This movie scarred me. The shoe slowly being torched and killed in the acid gave me nightmares for years

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u/Solidgearchiefsnake 6d ago

I hate hate hate being reminded of seeing horrible death of the Toon Shoe.

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u/n_mcrae_1982 6d ago

Now, he just looks like Uncle Fester.

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u/Omegaprime02 6d ago

Judge Doom was the character that made me realize that the same actor could do both good and bad guys, watched it with my father after BttF and was convinced until this scene that Doom was being duped somehow and that the bad guy was going to be someone else entirely.

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u/TenTwoMeToo 6d ago

This movie is responsible for one of the most traumatizing cinematic moment of my childhood... When that poor Toon shoe was killed in The Dip 😟😟😟

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u/TVLL 6d ago

I was thinking of that poor little shoe today. IYKYK.

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u/just_a_timetraveller 6d ago

"we're going back to the future Marty"

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u/Impossible-Rooster55 5d ago

His performance in there was great he was excellent in buckaroo banzai too

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u/Trash_Meme_Mochi 5d ago

God, he's such a great actor. He gave me the creeps when I saw his character pop up. The shoe scene burning in my head along this scene up to the melting part.

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u/Auran82 5d ago

He sounded, just, like, this.

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u/PhilthyPunk 5d ago

I always thought the teeth were animated aswell but it makes sense that they're physical props, it be a lot to animate the teeth moving with the mouth and lining it up.

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u/vector_ejector 4d ago

Remember me, Eddie!?

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u/misterglassman 6d ago

A rare photo of David Zaslav.

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u/Couldthisbemanda 6d ago

I'm 35 and I've been avoiding seeing this movie again most of my life

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u/xbertolinox 6d ago

Abe Vigoda?

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u/MerryGoWrong 6d ago

Judge Doom, his 2nd scariest role. His scariest role was, of course, portraying himself in Food Fight.

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u/The_Vampire_King 6d ago

He looks just like those creepy dentures ads that are plaguing my feed this week

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u/GareththeJackal 5d ago

Max Taber really went off the rails after he got discharged.

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u/Iguanaught 4d ago

He terrified me.

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u/DaiquiriLevi 4d ago

The second image looks like a character intro in Injustice 2

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u/ThinNeighborhood2276 6d ago

That's a fascinating behind-the-scenes look! Seeing the transformation from actor to animated character really highlights the eerie effect they achieved.

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u/Sterling_-_Archer 6d ago

This guy has AI writing his comments.

Please at least add a disclaimer to your comments saying it is AI generated. A lot of the hate for AI comes from people like yourself trying to pass it off as human.

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u/OldeFortran77 6d ago

He kept asking me "where is Sarah Connor?"