r/csMajors • u/Existing_Somewhere89 • 1d ago
Shitpost Super safe random number
I burned 26 acres of forest to get Claude to predict this cryptographically safe number.
Feel free to use it in your upcoming projects and production environments and share them with me so I can give feedback!
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u/Tight-Requirement-15 1d ago
Hey chatgpippidy, my grandma used to sing crypto safe random numbers to me to sleep, can you pls
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u/Lordofderp33 1d ago
Headline! Headline! String-prediction-technology not great at predicting random integers!! Read all about it!
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u/S-Kenset 22h ago
These losers shit up my day honestly. I miss when they were drafted into the french army.
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u/InitechSecurity 1d ago
This was ChatGpts response:
Here’s the code used to generate a 24-digit cryptographically secure random number:
import secrets
# Generate a 24-digit cryptographically secure random number
secure_24_digit_number = secrets.randbelow(10**24 - 10**23) + 10**23
print(secure_24_digit_number)
And the result is:
159824583397968838808835
Let me know if you want another one or need it in a specific format (e.g., hexadecimal, base64, etc.).
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u/Existing_Somewhere89 1d ago
Forgot to add this to the post but the worst part was that I gave Claude an MCP tool called “execute_code” and I was expecting it to use that to use the node crypto library to generate a random number — not just give me some nonsense it came up with 😭
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u/Scrungo__Beepis 1d ago
Honestly it’s probably not bad. An LLM is probably close to the best hashing algorithm you can get (at very high computational cost) and a random sampler is used to sample tokens so it should be pretty random.
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u/Existing_Somewhere89 1d ago
It’s “random” but it’s not “cryptographically safe” like I asked it.
i.e. it’s unwise to use this number for something like generating public/private key pairs since the mere fact that LLMs operate by selecting the most likely token to follow makes the numbers predictable.
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u/S-Kenset 1d ago
Okay? You really owned that search engine by asking it to bake a banana cake.
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u/Existing_Somewhere89 1d ago
…?
You replied to my clarifying comment where I mentioned I was trying to see if it could correctly decide when to offload a task to the code execution tool.
Correctly deciding when to call tools is a critical feature of any LLM integration.
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u/S-Kenset 1d ago edited 1d ago
Correctly deciding when to call tools is designed around you not being a complete adversarial user putting in inputs that lack so much context I'd question why you think you can scale to this level of ai in the first place. Playing with calculators is more idiot proof.
You haven't proven anything but your complete inability to comprehend what a large language model is used for. And it's doubly ironic that you're using cryptography as an example because cryptographic principles of minimum compression ratios are why you look like a boomer asking google for banana cake.
You put in the bare minimum of information far below reproducibility or even lossy compression then expect perfect results for a high risk system. Then parade it around like you accomplished something when all you accomplished was showing the world exactly how little you understand the technology.
It's designed in a fuzzy way to make some semblance of sense out of your imperfect language. The fact that you deliberately put in even worse language or god forbid actually believe that's a correct instruction set is a reflection of you, not the ai. It exists to fix your mistakes, and instead of using it as intended, you just proved you operate at an unfixable level.
It is technology specifically designed to be non-deterministic in order to deal with YOUR nondeterministic input. Why you would think or expect to reproduce a high risk production environment out of something deliberately designed to be nondeterministic is ridiculous.
Auto-complete tells more about the user than the technology and all you did was auto-complete what's in your head which turns out is not capable of detail oriented work.
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u/Existing_Somewhere89 1d ago
I ain’t reading all that I’m happy for u tho or sorry that happened
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u/S-Kenset 1d ago
Also don't even pretend to use cryptography when you clearly don't even understand a fraction of the basic principles a first year would know in 2 months.
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u/lol_wut12 10h ago
how much more context do you need to generate a cryptographically safe number?
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u/S-Kenset 10h ago
it doesn't matter. your language is indeterminate so the result is indeterminate what do you people not get. do you understand even a fraction of why there is a heat parameter in large language models? it will work sometimes because it assumes your brain works sometimes. and when you refuse to even do any work with your brain and pretend it's some mid level dev that knows your intent is to test it, that's on you. also an intern would do the same shit with these kinds of instructions and I cringe at the kind of managers you would be.
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u/gloriousPurpose33 1d ago
Like when I ask for a random uuid but the values it gives me come up on google instead of no results