How does egalitarianism help all men .

Feminism has helped men in some ways but now even as a women I feel like feminism is not about equality but mostly about women hating , generalising, and stereotyping men as abusers , cheaters, dangerous etc . Feminism has also resulted in unfair laws or beliefs such as men are drafted but women are not (and men are seen as disposable whilst women and children need be protected). Men serve longer sentences for the same crimes , compared to women. Men who are victims of sexual assault and violence where the perpetrator is a women are unfortunately not always believed.

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There's are just some of the issues I can think of right now: Mandatory draft for men (and mandatory draft for women) because that is equal.

How women receive lighter sentences for the same crimes

Men that unfortunately get falsely accused for things they didn't do

How men and boys are dropping out of higher education

How men pay child support for kids that aren't been theirs , because there is no mandatory paternity test . Or end up in jail for not paying child support

Mens mental health

Mens loneliness

How we have DEI for high paying jobs but not for blue collar jobs for women

How some women expect men to be traditional without the women having to be traditional

I've decided to leave this subreddit because I don't believe it’s as unbiased as it claims to be. I often see feminism and misandry framed as some kind of problem for men, but I don’t agree with that perspective. While I disagree with some beliefs that feminists have, I recognize that feminism arose in response to the deeply unfair treatment of women throughout history. Whether or not there’s toxicity within certain feminist groups isn’t the real issue, the fact remains that advocacy for women’s rights is still necessary because of the systemic mistreatment and marginalization of women throughout time.

Yes, men can and do face mistreatment in the world as well, but women aren’t to blame for that. The real source of these problems is the ruling class *often wealthy/elite white men* who hold power and make decisions that affect all of us. However, it seems easier for some groups to scapegoat women rights groups rather than confronting the true structures of power behind their hardships. I believe many if not all misandrous attitudes women hold towards men are a byproduct/trauma response to the fact that most women have experienced some kind of trauma sexual violance at some point in their lives often times at the hands of men. According to the U.S. Department of Justice, over 90% of adult rape victims report male perpetrators.

Just to ground this in facts:

/Video Explaining Coverture More indepth

• ​Historically, the legal doctrine of "coverture" rendered married women legally subordinate to their husbands, effectively merging a wife's legal identity into her husband. This framework denied women independent legal standing, restricting their ability to own property, enter contracts, or earn wages in their own right and made marital rape legally unrecognized ​as wives were deemed to have given irrevocable consent to sexual relations with their husbands upon marriage. This notion persisted in English common law, which was the foundation for American laws where marital rape was not acknowledged as a crime until the landmark case of R v R in 1991, which abolished the marital rape exemption. Source: National Women's History Museum
• Marital rape was legal in the U.S. until Nebraska criminalized it in 1976; it wasn’t outlawed in all 50 states until 1993 (ualr.edu).
• A 2017 Pew survey found that 23% of employed women were treated as incompetent due to their gender, versus only 6% of men. Sexual harassment was reported by 22% of women and 7% of men (pewresearch.org).
• One in six women in Australia have experienced physical violence by a partner since age 15, compared to one in seventeen men (noviolence.org.au).
• In 2023, an average of 140 women and girls were killed daily by intimate partners or family members worldwide (apnews.com).
• Women didn’t gain the right to vote in the U.S. until 1920 with the 19th Amendment—long after men had that right.
• And yes, men were drafted throughout history, but not because the ruling class valued their lives less than women's. It was a tactic to control both men and women, reinforcing a social order that kept everyone confined to rigid roles and expectations.
• The subjugation of women extended across various aspects of society, often favoring men even within marginalized groups (i.e. black men got the right to vote before women period). This structure served to maintain a social order that prioritized male authority and limited women's autonomy.
• The facts these laws where ever in place a testiment to the lack of power women have ever had in soicety to ever misuse against men.

I get that the mother has to take time to heal, but the difference is huge between the two genders. It doesn't take an entire year to heal! Not even months most of the time at least.

This means the mother can choose whether she wants to work or take care of the child while the father does not have the choice and is forced to do what society assumes a father would do, once again, women have the choice to pick a role, but not the father, how is that equality?

It's not the case in all countries but that's unfortunately the case in my country and by the time I'll be a father I wish I could take care of my kids and see them grow a bit before having to go work, but because of my gender it seems that I won't have the choice. It feels unfair to me and all the other men.

For all the women who have come here and contributed productively to the Egalitarian cause, I would like to wish you all a Happy International Women's Day. Here is some appreciation from me, a cisgendered man, to all you women and what you all do and offer for the world to function today. I know all you women have your daily struggles and your own issues and yet you still carry on with the rest of us. Even when we don't always see eye to eye, you all still do your best to carry on. So once again, I am wishing all you women out there a very Happy International Women's Day.

https://open.substack.com/pub/critiquingfeminism/p/whats-wrong-with-feminist-rights?r=u1h8n&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

Over the last year I've joined two groups that were exclusively/predominantly women, I'm a man. For clarity, one group was a pilates group (there was one man in the group) the other was a theater group that I was asked to join.

In both cases no one approached me to welcome me to the group. I extend a greeting to each member but did not feel the greeting was reciprocated.

Is this a common experience for other men? Do women entering a predominantly male group also feel a tinge of being ostracized?

Does this represent the changing times we live in?

https://xtramagazine.com/power/far-right-feminist-fascist-220810

I came across this post that I thought was rather insightful. It demonstrates how feminist movements are being slowly pushed Into fascist ideology.

Schevers researches TERFs because she used to be one. She’s written extensively about being sucked into a cult-like “detransition” movement which convinced young transmasculine people that their dysphoria was caused by misogyny and could only be cured by radical feminism.

“The TERF to Dissident Right Pipeline,” author Kat S. notes that TERFs’ insistence on “biological sex” as an immutable binary—all “men” depraved and violent, all “women” fragile victims—may make it easier to convince them of other biological hierarchies. Their insistence on seeing trans women as “violent men,” in particular, can be weaponized against men of colour and turned into overt white supremacy. “It doesn’t take any thinking woman long to see exactly which men are committing violent crime and the majority of partner violence, and race realism is a natural next step.”

Every time I bring up bell hooks as a counter to some self proclaimed feminist making misandrist statements they either dismiss bell hooks or feign ignorance. Yet at the same time I've been directed to bell hooks dozens of time as proof that feminists care about men.

Is this just a motte and bailey?

New article from Critiquing Feminism: Full article

The article looks at the justifications feminists commonly give for discrimination including:

• In Malta, female political candidates who don’t get elected are routinely appointed to Parliament to make up the numbers – overriding voters’ choices.
• At a local university, women with lower grades are accepted over underprivileged men.
• Women's rights that aren't extended to men.

Explores flaws in the most common justifications. The conclusion is that they are merely rhetoric. Rhetoric can obscure a wrong, but it cannot transmute it into something morally right.

My second essay on Substack! Interested to hear your comments, questions and any suggestions to attract more readers.

Cheers

She also wrote a song stereotyping men as immature and childlike. It's called "can't raise a man". I'm surprised she hasn't been called out at all cause if she were a man who said and sang misogynistic stuff, he would've been called out.

I'm AFAB and genderfluid, and my time in the queer community has shown me to approach people the same way regardless of gender.

I have several male friends who invite me to parties at their house where we play video games together and have lunch. I have known them for several years and we all get along.

Any time my mum hears I'm the only AFAB attending one of the meetups, she freaks out. She tells me to check my drinks and check the food for drugs, tells me that I can call her at any time and that I should do so the moment I feel unsafe, tells me that I shouldn't stay when everyone else is gone, etc. It's especially silly, because I've spent time alone with them at university after hours and never felt unsafe in the slightest before. She says that men are animals and will do anything to 'satiate their urges'. While in the car on the way to meetups she accuses my friends of WANTING TO RAPE ME on the grounds of them being men. She doesn't cite anything they said to me in person or online, she hasn't really met them, this is what she believes because she thinks men act like this.

She was like this when I was young too, I couldn't go near any male teacher without her preparing to physically fight them. She suspects every man outside of family of being driven by lust, even if it meant grooming children.

"A man's brain is in his junk"- paraphrasing, but she says it a lot. She says men are the most terrifying of animals when they feel lustful. She's said it for years.

If other afabs grow up hearing the same shit from their elders growing up, no wonder they turn out the way they do. We really need sex education. I hear a very similar sentiment among many women on the internet, especially from certain feminists, and I thought I'd share because I highly doubt I was the only one raised like this.