Marine combat vet here, who is also liberal. But trannies competing in sports that aren’t aligned with their biological sex is insane and should be prohibited.
The minimum allowed score is 40. When I saw that I was laughing my ass off. When I was at MEPS to take my ASVAB a dude was screaming, because he wanted to be a marine, but he scored a 37. He said, "It's only 3 points away!" He just kept screaming that. Like at the top of his lungs. Finally someone else said, "You're 3 points away from being the stupidest person allowed in the military. You shouldn't even get a gun at 40. I'm glad you're not joining." Dude screamed, "Fuck you," threw his paperwork at the guy, and stormed out. His recruiter didn't even get a chance to tell him he could retake the test.
I think a lot of people need to realize that serving in the army doesn’t automatically make you some tough badass. My grandpa was a mechanic after all and just fixed planes and trucks for six years.
I’ve said this so many times as a veteran. People call me a “hero” but all I did was go to Okinawa. I’ve been to Vegas a couple of times too. I’ve never been shot at and never will. The closest to combat I saw was playing paintball with some friends.
Even if someone sees combat, it doesn’t automatically make them a hero. Depending on the circumstances, it can make them look like the aggressor of some imperialist regime.
Service members don’t “protect” freedom. They protect interests: oil, minerals, and other resources valuable to trade and economy.
Yeah I hate it when people thank me for my service. I fixed tanks at a training base in the middle of the desert. I joined to get it off my abusive household. Nothing about my actions deserves your praise or thanks.
Bone spurs got me or I would’ve been the best there ever was. Some say I would’ve been in charge on day one. No one knows more about the Military than me, that’s why I was so distraught hearing the news.
I mean, i don't think im a badass or anything, but the airforce said they couldn't recruit me because of my Psoriasis. then 6 months later 9/11 happened. that is definitely the moment my life couldve gone several different ways, but yeah. I also would've been in afghanistan/iraq, but i'd have been doing computers or some shit.
Fucking Navy wouldn’t recruit me for my psoriasis, too. They “temporarily disqualified” me and said I could apply again at a later time. Couldn’t even get a waiver. Navy liaison at the MEPS said it was actually due to budget cuts, furloughs and the government shutdowns (this was in 2013). Whatever the case, it was fucking stupid. I just went to college instead. lol
what’s crazy is that a score of 43, which means you’re really stupid, is still 12 points higher than the army’s minimum requirement. still, i knew a guy in high school who scored a 12.
Exactly that. They always compare back to WW2 USA. Like that was America’s moral peak back then because a bunch of old rich dudes didn’t give a shit until Pearl Harbor.
Now they call to it like it’s what men should be, yet they support Nazis today. All those soldiers are rolling over in their graves while assholes like this guy use their memories as a tool to hate trans women.
(Insert Deity here) forbid people have freedom to do what they want legally in a country that they brag about having freedom in.
We're so fucked. I really hope people in red states that voted red feel this recession the most. Maybe they'll vote blue and bring on a blue wave during mid-terms. More realistically, they'll still pay for cable to watch Fox News tell them it's still Joe Biden's fault 2 years into this current administration.
I would have been in the SAS, but I didn’t bother to go because I knew that I was too much of a loose cannon, big balls, super rebel that they wouldn’t take me. I would have been the best though.
SAS? pshhh. I was almost personally hand selected by this super secret black ops unit that's so secret, no one even knows they exist. I'd have gone too, if they'd picked me. Which they didn't. Cause I'm so badass that they thought I'd make the other guys look bad.
You better show me some respect and thank me for my service before you even wake up in the morning. That's how badass I am.
My doctors said that I wasn’t aloud to do any exercise because I’d become so strong and fast that I’d break physics and probably create a black hole or something.
43? I got an 88 and still got barred for being prescribed anxiety meds less than two years prior to enlisting. Glad I didn’t make it in though, honestly.
Weird flex to say “I ALMOST got into a job that lets me shoot people abroad because my government says so!”
92 here, went for combat medic, denied for preexisting medical condition. Probably the best thing that could have happened, looking back at it now, it wouldn't have been the best route for me.
I got a fucking 94 and couldn't get a waiver for being 5 pounds overweight to join the Navy. Even after my recruiter went to bat for me and told them he'd tracked my list of 40 pounds. We didn't have any active conflicts at the time, so I couldn't get a waiver for my weight. IIRC I was told I was like literally 2 points from being eligible to do any MOS I wanted that didn't require a prior degree. There was less than a handful of non-degree MOS I was locked out of based on score.
This was in, I wanna say it was late 2000 or early 2001. So it wouldn't be long before we'd be in active conflict again, but there weren't any at the time that would let them give me a waiver. 5 fucking pounds. I should have left and went next door to the Army recruiter. Or any of them really, it was my understanding at the time the Navy was the strictest when it came to weight. Biggest regret I have, I feel like my life could have gone in an entirely different direction based on that one decision.
Of course I didn't wanna shoot people, I just wanted to fix jets and stuff. Let other people fly them around and shoot people after I fix them.
That’s ridiculous. 5 pounds isn’t even a huge deal, and when you’ve got a 94, that’s insane. My Army recruiters were talking about how I could literally get whatever MOS I wanted, I can’t even imagine how your recruiters were acting.
I didn’t wanna shoot anybody either, I was going in to be a combat medic specialist in the Reserve. I tried in late 2023, had the bases I would be training at determined and all, and my recruiters fought hard to get me in, but alas.
My recruiter and I were both devastated. He thought it was as crazy as I did, and apparently as crazy as you do, that I couldn't get in over 5 pounds. I literally passed every other test except weight, and it was 5.2lbs exactly over the limit.
My doctor later told me his best guess is that I was at a point in my training regiment where I was putting on muscle weight as fast as I was losing body fat. Another few months of training and I probably would have been losing again.
I do think that’s crazy. That’s so unfortunate, and I’m guessing you’re not really down to try again now that it’s been like 25 years lol.
The funny thing about my situation is that the Army National Guard called not even a week later asking if I was interested in enlisting with them, and they were also ticked about me being barred. I could technically go try now that the two years has passed, but I think I’m okay with not doing so.
That man is a decorated veteran of the Club Penguin war which resulted in hundreds of billons of online casualties. He would have been in infantry, but he was the bugler.
Why do I get the feeling Red's story isn't straight between who he tells it to, either?
Like, one day it's "Well I've got kidney disease so they wouldn't let me enlist" and the next it might be "I would have been a Marine but I punched out the drill instructor when he started badmouthing me so they kicked me out" and the day after it's "I would have deployed but they found out I was too good at CQC so they gave me a desk job", and so on?
a 43 is fucking CRAZY. I got a 99 while being a straight 2.8gpa high school student. School did a little announcement/celebration. Never joined lol. It's not a hard test
I did study for it with some online practice tests, but wasn't rigorous or anything lol. Just learned how to legitimately study about a year ago, high school was close to a decade ago.
I tried just like this, but instead of kidney disease I have a skin condition, but I don’t make myself absolutely fucking unbearable and bring it up like this guy surely does every chance he gets.
I hear ya. I would have fought in Vietnam if it hadn't ended the year before I was born. Marine recruiters wouldn't overlook the fact I was a zygote or believe me, I would have been down to clown.
Vet here, dude is a peak loser. Wannabe vet bros are worse than vet bros. I’d rather hang out with a vetbro before him. Because we could at least roast the wannabe vetbro together
They all have some story about being so close to joining but never did
And then call other people pussies for not being tough boy soldiers
I was actually in the military (army e3/88m) and I don't personally give a fuck who was or wasn't in, it was awful, I hated it and we fight wars for drugs (Afghanistan was poppy production for opioid med crisis) or to overthrow governments of lesser developed countries(iraq) not to defend freedom
Either way aggro male insecurity projection is wild to me
And they can never name any of the “fake trans women” who are dominating all sports. In part bc it doesn’t happen and in part bc they don’t give a sailing shit about women’s sports and never have.
Because there are literally 0 instances of this. They need to cite at least 100 in 1 city for it even to be a mentionable statistic. They are fueled by cope and toxic masculinity without even being masculine at all.
Well kidney disease is slightly better than the "i would've punch a DI for yelling in my face" guys or the rare "the government wouldn't let me because I'm to dangerous" that pops up every now and then
It’s a test to see what your aptitude is in several categories, including verbal, word knowledge, paragraph comprehension, auto and shop info, math, science and tech, and spatial. It’s calculated into a percentile score, so if you scored a 43, it means that 43% of the scores were below your score. A 99 means that 99% of the scores were below yours.
What about transgender men? Should they be allowed to join the military? What about participating in men’s sports, is that ok? They just conveniently forget about transgender men.
Right? Cis Women have fought in the last several American conflicts, and nobody has an issue with that, but Trans men? Now they’re “unfit for combat” or whatever.
The max score is 99, and certain jobs require certain minimum scores to get them. This dude would have barely been able to be a gate guard, provided he didn’t get dropped for trying to tell his training instructor off for “being disrespectful”
Yea it’s pretty bad. I believe 31 is the bare minimum required to enlist, and anything above about 70 will get you any job you want. A 43 means you’re working in the mess hall
Also, even if this guy is telling the truth re kidney disease, his logic still falls apart. He's referencing men who wanted out of war because it sucks. Even your best case scenario sucks, and it doesn't take a veteran to know that. Then he compares that to trans women who want to compete in sports? It doesn't work because he's an idiot
I got in with flat feet and asthma and made it through 4 years in the infantry and a trip to fallujah. They probably offered him a waiver and he didn't sign because he didn't really want to join, just to say that he would've joined
Did you get bad shin splints ? I got in with flat feet. I got shin splints in boot camp so fucking bad it felt like my legs were broken. But I didn’t say anything because I really wanted to graduate. The thought of being on medical hold in bootcamp sounded horrible to me.
Lol back then I didn't even know what it was i just knew it hurt. Didn't find out i had flat feet until 3 years in when doc was inspecting our feet. And yeah being held back for medical in boot camp was horrible. I caught pneumonia and got stuck in mrp for almost 2 months. In medical at least they knew they were going home but with us we were just stuck in a miserable ass limbo of not going home but graduating either. Added an extra 3 months to boot camp
Oh no, 43 still makes him an idiot, but that is absolutely not a problem for the Marine Corps. I think you have to have a 30 or 35 to get in, but you can get a waiver to join with an even lower score.
Average score should be 50 as it’s a percentile. Average score of those that enlist is harder to figure out. There’s a lot in the 32-50 range but many jobs have a requirement higher than. Some people also will score quite well, say a 78, and take a job that just requires you be eligible to enlist
I scored a 73 on mine but I usually score well on aptitude tests. There was a bumpkin from Kentucky that got a score in the 20s in my company in boot camp. He had to get a waiver to get in.
He is either referring to his percentile score (in which case a 43 means he is in the 43rd percentile (out of 99) of people who take the test). Or, he is referring to his GT score which is the most common score referred to within the military. This is a line score within the test, and a 43 is abysmally low.
Someone told me that you got like 10 points for just writing your name. I never confirmed this to be true or not, but if it is true then it's even more concerning.
It more or less “is” average, though. It’s a percentile.
So if you score a 50, it means you scored in the 50-percentile. Essentially dead middle of the pack. You did better than 49 people, and 49 people did better than you. (Over simplification, but that’s more or less how it works).
To dumb it down further, if you scored a 99, it doesn’t necessarily mean you scored a 99%. It means you did better than 99% of people and scored within the Top 1% of takers for that test-group.
“I swear I would be cool as hell but my tummy hurts and mom said no” like bro, there’s other ways to be cool than just the military, and many who served are kinda dorks ngl. Very little see actual combat
I was about to join had the papers signed and then they told me I couldn’t because I had a paraphernalia charge in high school, so I did what any no future prospective teenager would do, I became a construction worker
I almost joined the Coast Guard, but they said I wasn't tall enough. I'm 5' 11", and you have to be at least 6'. That way, if your boat tips over, you can walk back to shore.
Scoring a 43 on the ASVAB explains a whole lot about this person. I would keep that to myself if I were them. Then again, if I scored a 43, I’d probably be too stupid to understand that I should keep it to myself.
I totally get him. I was about to join the Space Marines and they really wanted me. Unfortunately, I didn't fit the height requirement... But I would join them in a heartbeat if they dropped that requirement!
My grandmother laid nettles around her and my grandfather's bed one night so so that come the next morning when he went to volunteer to enlist he'd have all the signs of hay fever.
I almost joined the air force, then I took a step back like "fuuuck that." I think it was because at the time I was dumb and got shitty scores on the asvab, and wouldn't have gotten a job I wanted.
I almost joined the navy after getting my bachelors in a psych related field cause I didn’t know what to do with my life. Quite smoking weed, got in shape, then broke my thumb the day before I was scheduled to call the recruiter for OCS. The day after that, Trump announced that we were going to potentially be attacking North Korea and I immediately saw this broken thumb as my last sign to get my ass the fuck out of that mindset.
I then started reading reports on all the non-combat casualties that happen in the navy due to machine failures and just how gruesome they can be, on top of how isolating it can be. Now I’m a practicing therapist, best life decision I ever made and my wallet and physical health are also grateful.9
Pretty sure there’s instances of guys claiming interest in other men to skip out on the Vietnam war draft. Probably happened in previous wars too but I believe it was fairly risky having that on record. I think there always have and always will be people telling lies to get in or out of military service. Also now trans servicemen and women including who are willing to serve and are being removed. I don’t think any of this is generational.
I didn’t end up joining because I didn’t have the money to finish my bachelors degree… 4 classes from a piece of trash paper that could have changed my life forever… I know for a fact that I would have been great in the officer program and wouldn’t bitch out if needed for war but I mean shit… I would never say that as a flex or in general unless someone asked me what happened AND how I felt I would do… people are cringe af when they think “almost joining” is a flex
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u/cjk2793 2h ago
Marine combat vet here, who is also liberal. But trannies competing in sports that aren’t aligned with their biological sex is insane and should be prohibited.