r/interestingasfuck 1d ago

/r/all Ryan Waller, a 22-year-old man who, despite having a bullet in his eye, endured 4 hours of interrogation by cops who thought he was lying—only to receive medical help too late.

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u/Azadom 1d ago

Aren't there plenty of examples of habeaus corpus not applying since 1863 and continuing on? Murder convictions without a body, whatever Guantanamo Bay is, any executive action that cites some emergency. I wouldn't count on it being a viable legal defense.

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u/Someredditusername 1d ago

Title someone a terrorist and you don't have to abide habeas corpus at all thanks to homeland protection laws. You don't have to prove them a terrorist, just call them one.

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u/Consistent-Task-8802 1d ago

The main problem is that it doesn't cover lying by omission.

They only have to tell you where you are if they directly and succinctly answer the question "Where is he right now?" Which they simply won't do, they'll go quiet - Which they also have a right to do.

Most would consider that "hiding" you, but the law has ruled repeatedly that it doesn't mean that, legally speaking.

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u/forkball 1d ago

I don't think trying for murder without a body qualifies else you'd be able to successfully murder someone so long as there was no body, even if there was trace evidence indicating injury to that person.

The Guantanamo/terrorist/secret warrant stuff I agree with.