r/inthenews • u/Quirkie • 1d ago
Obama Breaks Silence on Trump’s ‘Unimaginable’ Presidency - “Imagine if I had done any of this,” the former two-term president said.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/obama-breaks-silence-on-trumps-unimaginable-presidency/802
u/sunnyspiders 1d ago
They can’t imagine.
That’s why they’re so angry.
They cannot imagine. They have to be told.
And even then, they have to be shown.
And even then, it has to happen to them.
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u/Kalavazita 1d ago edited 20h ago
39 years ago, a KGB defector chillingly predicted modern America
Bezmenov explained that the most striking thing about ideological subversion is that it happens in the open as a legitimate process. “You can see it with your own eyes,” he said.
“What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.”
Bezmenov described this process as “a great brainwashing”…
“They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You can not change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior.”
“As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore,” said Bezmenov. “A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures; even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him [a] concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it, until he [receives] a kick in his fan-bottom. When a military boot crashes his balls then he will understand. But not before that. That’s the [tragedy] of the situation of demoralization.”
Yuri Bezmenov: The Four Stages of Ideological Subversion
Operation InfeKtion: How Russia Perfected the Art of War | NYT Opinion
Meet the KGB Spies Who Invented Fake News | NYT Opinion
The Seven Commandments of Fake News | NYT Opinion
Edited to add a new relevant link. A bit of a heavier read but very informative.
How the United States Will Lose the Next War
The future of the republic does not depend on U.S. military superiority and the physical war-fighting capability. It depends on the United States’ ability to defend and counter the information and cognitive war that will take place in the collective shared understanding of every U.S. citizen.
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u/Fine-Funny6956 1d ago
This is underrated and should be everywhere. It’s remarkable how few people know this.
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u/elonsghost 1d ago
Well, you heard him, let’s start crashing some balls.
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u/Kalavazita 20h ago
Please share. We have to come together as a nation to protect the Constitution and our representative democracy. This is the only fight that matters now.
As Sen. Booker said, it’s not about left vs right, it’s about right vs wrong. And there’s no greater right than a government of, by and for the people.
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u/VengefulAncient 20h ago
Funny because the cons were referring to the same interview whining that it's how we're being brainwashed by "woke media". Ironic.
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u/Kalavazita 19h ago
Ideological subversion happens at both sides of the political spectrum.
I think the main tell is this: Is the position I’m taking objectively benefiting me? Is it bringing me closer to my goals? Are my choices and actions rational or just emotionally impulsive? Am I getting the desired results I was looking for?
Think MAGA farmers… shooting themselves in the foot voting for tariffs, probably losing their farms because of them.
Think “End Genocide” leftist… letting the guy who was meeting at Mar-a-Lago with Netanyahu, and who wants to turn Gaza into the “Riviera of the Middle East” win the election.
If you find yourself making decisions that objectively have you fucking around and finding out… chances are you got got.
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u/lenaughtycouple 19h ago
This is absolutely brilliant, I am obsessed with this type of information because as much as you’re aware of the tactics and narratives that are being pushed on us and the dynamics at play on this strategically planned propaganda, the more I learn the more everything makes sense and it’s easier to understand once you‘ve pieced everything together.
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u/Kalavazita 19h ago edited 18h ago
Same. I’m directing my efforts to spreading awareness online on one hand, and improving/supporting/strengthening my real world ties by getting involved in my community on the other (in my case it’s the PTA, but people could get involved with any cause that’s close to their hearts).
Stay safe, stay sane. We all need to get off our phones a bit more. Life is waiting out there for us to make the changes we want to see in the world.
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u/jcoddinc 1d ago
And even then, it has to
happen tokill themThey won't believe until it's absolutely to late
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u/tattedmomma44 1d ago
The pandemic literally killed them & it changed nothing in their pea brains
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u/IntelligentStyle402 1d ago
True, even the mega’s when told they had covid and have a low chance of surviving, would say there is no covid, I don’t have covid.
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u/jcoddinc 1d ago
Having worked in the medical field, I got to hear all sorts of stories about maga patients pleading for the vaccine once they were told it was too late. It was very sad that they refuse to believe science until they had 1 foot in the grave and it was too late.
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u/Reasonable-Truck-874 1d ago
Hey, fun fact. Covid’s death toll over time per capita matches the death toll of wwii
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u/gent4you 1d ago
“When a clown moves into a palace he doesn’t become a king, the palace instead becomes a circus. — Turkish proverb,”
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u/CuTe_M0nitor 1d ago edited 15h ago
"Too big to fail"- Obama. He said if we don't hand out unmarked money to the Banks on Monday the world market would crash. They were creating and selling housing loans to every market and marking them as an AAA investmen. It obligated 10years of economic progress.
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u/Outrageous_Lack8435 1d ago
Wasnt bush pres. when all that started
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u/trogloherb 1d ago
Yep. Obama had to put the pieces back together and succeeded.
It’s too bad these neo-Republicans dont bother looking at historical records; the US economy has always done better under Dem administrations (as long as I’ve been old enough to vote which was Clinton).
Carter had a rough term but a lot of the economic issues in his term were due to decisions being made by OPEC.
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u/CuTe_M0nitor 15h ago
He save the banks doing that scams and didn't let the market to correct itself, let the banks not being on the scam to take over. Bush waged a war in Iraq and got what his father wanted.
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u/bozodoozy 1d ago
and if he hadn't? if he had allowed those banks to fail? what was the worst possible consequence, and how would that have affected economic progress?
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u/CuTe_M0nitor 15h ago
You don't have incentives for incompetency, that's not capitalism. Other smaller banks who weren't in on the scam 😡 thus making them the competent ones, would have taken their place. Instead Obama saved them and kept them alive. We had stagflation over the past 10years after that. Negative interest rate even
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u/Shadowtirs 1d ago
He's absolutely right.
I'm old enough to remember the ::gasps:: tan suit scandal.
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u/mrmustache0502 1d ago
And the bicycle helmet scandal. Let's not forget the spicy mustard scandal too.
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u/Domo-d-Domo 1d ago
Let us not forget the Dijon Mustard scandal, truly a shocking moment in this nations history.
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u/just_anotherReddit 1d ago
Why hasn’t he been brought to before the ICC? The sheer audacity of egregious conduct against humanity.
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u/No-Celebration3097 1d ago
If any Democrat president did this along with bringing a billionaire immigrant on board to fleece the government, Republicans would not stand for it.
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u/Parking_Setting_6674 1d ago
As an outsider looking in. It is this I find absolutely fascinating and completely incomprehensible.
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u/_Zambayoshi_ 1d ago
They nearly didn't even stand for Trump not getting a second consecutive term. God bless Mike Pence I guess.
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u/Kurushiiyo 15h ago
Amd that's the problem right now, the dems right now are shutting the fuck up about it, they are as much at fault for letting this happen as each and every T*ump voter.
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u/Reasonable-Bus-2187 1d ago
Thanks, Obama,
for saying something
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u/jaderust 1d ago
I miss his tan suit. Oh, when the scandals of Presidency were stupid and boring.
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u/Mike_Honcho_3 1d ago
That wasn't even the worst scandal of Obama'a presidency. He once ordered dijon mustard! The horror!
Say want you want about Trump crashing markets, being a felon and sexual assault perpetrator, being the worst president of all time by miles and a traitor to the United States and a million other terrible things, but at least he didn't ask for dijon /s
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u/Mr-_-Soandso 20h ago
I am still confused about why this was ever an issue, due to the fact that dijon is far superior to yellow mustard.
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u/Xszit 18h ago
It sounds fancy and foreign, like some kind of global elitist condiment.
It wasn't about the mustard, it was a subliminal dogwhistle to suggest that Obama isn't American to tie in with the birth certificate lies, and on top of that he isn't "a guy you could drink a beer with" because you'd offer him a hotdog with yellow mustard to go with his beer but he'd turn his nose up and ask for some fancy shit you can't even pronounce.
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u/FallOdd5098 1d ago
I still miss this guy, and I live in a country is on the other side of the world.
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u/hu_gnew 1d ago
I was going to say "Mr. President, we don't have to imagine. You wore a tan suit. And you played golf a couple of times."
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u/StellarJayZ 1d ago
At one of the nearby military bases, where security is easily accomplished, because it's on a military base, and it's free.
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u/hu_gnew 1d ago
You mean he didn't charge the Secret Service for using a golf cart? What a loser.
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u/These-Rip9251 1d ago
The Secret Service was forced to pay over $2 million to stay at his hotels. Trump visited his properties more than 550 times during his previous term because, you know, he couldn’t make money if he just stayed at the WH.
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u/koala_bears_scatter 13h ago
Is that Dijon mustard you ordered for your sandwich? You say you eat arugula, Mr. President?
I'm sorry, I can't support someone so elite and out of touch. In a few years, I'll throw my support behind the millionaire with the gold toilets who doesn't know the word "groceries."
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u/sxales 1d ago
There were actual "scandals" under Obama, it is just that Fox News made up (or exaggerated) so many others that now people just assume they were all BS.
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u/Icy-Bicycle-Crab 23h ago
Cool. Actual scandals like...?
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u/sxales 22h ago
The Chelsea Manning leaks were in 2010, and her prosecution under the Espionage Act in 2013
The handling of the Snowdon leaks in 2013
The resulting crack-down on whistleblowers, including the monitoring of journalist's phone records in 2012
Continued use of extrajudicial drone strikes, such as those that resulted in a 16-year-old American citizen being killed in 2011
The continued operation of Guantánamo Bay in violation of the Geneva convention
His response to the Russian annexation of Crimea in 2014
I am not comparing him to Trump or even Bush II, but he was also not the perfect president that Reddit likes to portray.
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u/Icy-Bicycle-Crab 16h ago
The continued operation of Guantánamo Bay in violation of the Geneva convention
That doesn't violate the Geneva convention. Anyway, blame the Republicans who fought to keep it open, not the guy who fought to close it.
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u/Icy-Bicycle-Crab 16h ago
The continued operation of Guantánamo Bay in violation of the Geneva convention
That doesn't violate the Geneva convention. Anyway, blame the Republicans who fought to keep it open, not the guy who fought to close it.
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u/Icy-Bicycle-Crab 16h ago
The continued operation of Guantánamo Bay in violation of the Geneva convention
That doesn't violate the Geneva convention. Anyway, blame the Republicans who fought to keep it open, not the guy who fought to close it.
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u/i_suckatjavascript 1d ago
I miss his speeches. Even though when we know that there are rough roads ahead, his speeches always sounded like optimism and hope. We studied about his speeches in my college public speaking class, which what led me to pursue a double major in communications when I originally intended to do 1 major in economics.
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u/noncommonGoodsense 1d ago
I’m sure it was hard for him to stay out of it when someone takes something you built and demolishes it and people cheer.
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u/thewartornhippy 1d ago
They still blame Obama for Trump's current day fuck ups.
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u/Rejukem 1d ago
He's the man behind the curtain! /s
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u/beragis 1d ago
Obama has a lot to blame. A major weakness that Obama had was trying not to seem like he was political, when the presidency is political.
He was too worried about how it would look for the current sitting president to investigate and try a person running for president. Trump broke numerous laws when he ran the first time, yet the Justice Department under Obama did nothing.
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u/purepolka 1d ago
I asked my MAGA father how he would feel if Obama had made George Soros the head of a gov't agency he created to cut parts of the federal budget he didn't like. He said it was different because Soros would not have been cutting fraud and abuse, lol. It's always rules for thee but not for me.
Honestly, a lot of MAGA folks are so far gone that the only thing that'll jolt them out of it is severe and prolonged pain - which is what they're gonna get. Even then, it won't be enough for a lot of them to admit they were wrong.
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u/sentesy 1d ago edited 1d ago
Unfortunately it also means severe and prolonged pain for 99% of the rest of society.
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u/I-Here-555 20h ago
for 99% of the rest of society
Look at the bright side, the 1% are having a jolly good time.
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u/curt94 21h ago
They won't be snapped out of it, ever. There is no pain great enough to get them out their life long cult. Think of all the southern civil war soldiers and the old WW2 German soldiers. They all went to their graves thinking what they did was just and right and that everyone else was wrong.
The Republicans are causing a generational problem. We'll all be dealing with these true believers for the rest of our lives.
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u/love_glow 1d ago
Trump and his goons are destroying the social contract. California has announced that it will unilaterally negotiate trade deals for it self. This is the start of the Balkanization of the U.S. We need to stop this now.
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u/SeaOfBullshit 21h ago
Sauce for California trade please? I'm interested. I wonder if they're still going to support the states rights now hmm
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u/TheLastSamurai101 11h ago
I mean, they have the most to lose with over $700 billion in international trade.
The illiterate shitville Republicanistans with their dead economies and unemployed populations hardly need worry about international trade.
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u/EndlessPotatoes 7h ago
This sounds like an obvious concrete first step towards secession. If Trump doesn't strong arm states away from this, I can see it happening. If states can become independent enough to weaken federal control, that's that.
Trump could find himself having to order military action targeting states, and that's when you get martial law and civil war.
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u/HordeDruid 1d ago edited 21h ago
I remember when Republicans complained every single day about Obama golfing too much, now they don't care how much the president spends on golf trips while personally ushering in a recession. I remember Republicans calling for his fucking execution because they considered his presidency unconstitutional, and now they're silent as their candidate dismantles the system of checks and balances laid out by the Constitution. The hypocrisy would be obvious if the average American didn't have the memory and attention span of a gold fish.
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u/Embarrassed-Falcon58 1d ago
I really think the whole trump thing is a racist, sexist fit by small, weak Americans being manipulated by big money rich morons.
They saw one black guy be president, and it made them so upset they started worshiping the loudest racist they wanted to be like.
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u/tuulikkimarie 1d ago
Finally an ex is speaking up! Where are the others? Is Obama the only one with the stones? Looks like it, but better late than never!
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u/Oceanbreeze871 1d ago
Imagine if Obama had even proposed any of this let alone do it?
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u/Cardboardoge 1d ago
They brought out the gallows when he wore a tan suit. He would've been JFK'd if any of the inbreds had lost even half the amount of their retirement that Trump cost us
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u/Bee-Aromatic 1d ago
They invaded the Capitol when an old, centrist, white guy won instead of the mouth-breathing populist lunatic. I’m pretty sure that “pitchforks and torches” wouldn’t even begin to describe what they would have done to Barack Obama had he even hinted at trying to do anything even remotely on the scale of what Donny’s already done.
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u/ahumankid 1d ago
WHERE’S THE TRUMP BIRTH CERTIFICATE???
Oops, I mean:
WHERE’S THE TRUMP TAX DOCUMENTS????
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u/TootsNYC 1d ago
he's not a former two-term president; he's a two-term former president
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u/Hot_Frosty0807 1d ago
If he keeps talking like this in MAGA America, he'll be a former two term president soon enough.
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u/kelpyb1 1d ago
Bro had Dijon mustard on a hotdog and Conservatives melted down over it.
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u/VengefulAncient 20h ago
I've just heard about this today for the first time and I don't get it. Isn't mustard what normally goes on a hotdog?..
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u/kelpyb1 19h ago
Oh but you see Dijon is apparently his elitism showing through. Working men order yellow mustard.
I swear this was the actual argument being made.
Edit: in case it’s not incredibly clear the real reason it was a problem, just like the tan suit thing, was he did it while being black
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u/VengefulAncient 19h ago
That's a heinous crime! I've heard that the police in the US shoots people on sight for it!
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u/chockedup 1d ago
Republicans are deeply hypocritical. Democrats try to take the high road, follow the law, etc. Republicans are more like school bullies: If Republicans don't pull Trump back from the precipice, then they're complicit.
I believe that's one of the reasons so many of them claim to be Christians, it's a religion that offers them eternal forgiveness for all the bad they've done in life. That and it offers a nearly built-in voting block.
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u/Saino_Moore 1d ago
This is all Obamas fault. How dare he be a competent black man. All the racist idiots freaking out.
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u/scubawankenobi 1d ago
Totally diff if Obama had done this... I mean Trump is white. Doesn't that make the distinction clear enough for everyone?
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u/dimechimes 1d ago
They know they're hypocrites. They don't care. Can we stop this useless tactic of pointing out their hypocrisy? Obama knew Trump was colluding with Putin and sat quiet only giving the Senate a briefing after the election. He did not enforce the law when he was in charge and now we all must pay for that.
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u/Laucurieuse 20h ago
Even Obama is saying it; it was never about making America Great Again, it has been and still is about « Make ME Great Again » in Trump’s mind.
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u/SnoopyisCute 1d ago
I posted this same damn thing on January 7, 2021.
Obama would be missing and BLM would be on Death Row.
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u/Imaginary-Swing-4370 22h ago
I miss this man, eloquently spoken, articulate, and honest. Yeah he wasn’t perfect ,but he was 100X better then shit stain Trump.
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u/AdmrilSpock 1d ago
Clown show republicans tried to rebrand the fist bump as a terrorist bump. What complete dumb sh!ts. Wear your helmets republicans.
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u/autotelica 1d ago
They made fun of President Obama for being a "community activist". Because, you know, helping the poor and elderly is something only losers do apparently.
Many of them will soon be praying that there is a community activist out there willing to help them find jobs, food, shelter, and caregiving. Neither the federal government or the private sector are going to be there for them. But an idealistic young person might.
Wonder if they will see the irony in this.
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u/listentomenow 1d ago edited 1d ago
Imagine if Obama said he gets away with sexually assaulting women because he's a celebrity. Career over.
Imagine if he created a meme coin the day before becoming POTUS.
Imagine if he created a $5 million skip the line immigration card. My God this one might get him hung by conservatives. Trump does it and it's fucking crickets.
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u/bowsmountainer 1d ago
If he had done any of this Fox would have told their viewers that Trump was literally the very worst thing that has ever happened, and their viewers would parrot that.
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u/Altruistic_Ad_9217 18h ago
Identity politics. White identity politics were the first and are still the most prevalent and potent. People are blind to it. It even influences non white people. Trump questioned Harris’s blackness in front of black media pröfessionals. He claimed Schumer wasn’t Jewish. Race was created by racists to define and denigrate and separate people. Donald Trump had no right to talk like that, but as a racist, he has every right. It’s his birthright.
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u/Shot_Nefariousness67 1d ago
I'm not in the mood for forgiving today.
Obama had a stronger mandate, and yes, could have banned Fox News for their out and out lies that in conjunction with the other sources of Ruzzian Trump propaganda, have buried the American dream forever.
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u/Peace-For-People 1d ago
He promised hope and change and gave us mostly just hope.
The ACA was a great accomplishment, but after that was mostly inaction.
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u/turko127 19h ago
Gee I wonder if it’s because he then got dealt a “my way or the highway” House and Mr. Green Eggs and Ham in the Senate.
None of this happens in a vacuum.
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u/DogMom814 8h ago
Exactly. Obstruction done by one Mitch McConnell was a big reason President Obama couldn't get more of his agenda passed
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u/fsociety091786 1d ago
To the trailer trash that represents a third of this country nothing is worse than the POTUS being black.
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u/Felinomancy 16h ago
Look - Trump crashed the economy.
But Obama wore a tan suit. Can we agree that both are equally bad?
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u/Puzzleheaded-Wolf318 20h ago
Obama did deport the most illegal immigrants though 😆
I would shit a brick if he calls out Trump with that flex
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u/mattiman8888 1d ago
It's all a ego trip for Trump. He wants to be the Emperor of the Kingdom of USA.
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u/Kannazuki1985 1d ago
If he did anything but strive for perfection the USA has shown he would have been lynched.....*sad
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u/sherribaby726 1d ago
The White House would have been under attack by people with guns if Obama had done anything close to what Trump is doing.
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u/Subject-Big-7352 19h ago
OMG 😱 it is unfathomable. An Impossibility. Had it happened he’d been RUN 🏃 out of town same day decision made and market slid. Hypocritical biased America. But this instance and this President—folks are saying “give him a chance.” What the….?
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u/Ammut88 1d ago
The problem isn’t that Obama couldn’t have gotten away with it. The problem is that the democrats DO let Trump get away with it.
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u/BlueGalangal 20h ago
The REPUBLICANS let Trump get away with this.
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u/Ammut88 6h ago
The republicans HELP trump get away with this. If Obama had done this the republicans would be on Fox ad nauseam kick and screaming. Meanwhile chuck schumer is face in the pillow ass in the air. Until we get more Jasmine Crockets, Katie Porters, and AOCs, nothing is going to change.
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u/Ok_Ingenuity_1847 16h ago
Oh dang that's crazy what's he done since 2016 to do a fucking thing about it, oh is it absolutely nothing? Great thanks Barry, shut the fuck up and go launch some more extrajudicial drone strikes you fucking waste
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u/eyeballburger 1d ago
Whenever I hear, “imagine if (the left) had done this!”, I just think about how weak and ineffective the left is. I’m reminded of the hunter s Thompson quote: “I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone…”
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u/VeryBerryRasberry 7h ago
All the media is shitting on Trump right now. What does he mean 'imagine this'? Trump's reputation is literally down the earth, it can't get any lower. Whereas, Obama maintained a good reputation during his office. CNN NBC ABC CBS MSNBC NPR NYT, they all loved him. I don't get his victim mindset here, thinking he would have gotten more hate than Trump when that would have never be the case
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u/Galileiah 7h ago
Yes it would have.
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u/VeryBerryRasberry 7h ago
tell me any major media that portrayed Obama in a negative fashion other than fox
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u/ParrotTaint 1d ago
Fun fact about Obama's presidency:
Obama deported more people than any other president before him.
He also prosecuted more whistle blowers than any president before him.
So, in a way, he kind of did. The irony is that because he's a Democrat, these actions got less notice.
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u/enunymous 1d ago
Yeah. And remember the time he willfully crashed the economy and went to play golf right after?
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u/memefaliure 1d ago
No maga only remembers the TAN suit, and that Obama want them to have cheap health care.
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u/SugarInvestigator 1d ago
Or told Americans to shove flashlights up their arses and drink bleach to kill Covid?
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u/LadyBogangles14 1d ago
I don’t think he deported a legal green card holder to a Salvadoran concentration camp and just shrugged his shoulders when asked to bring them home to the US.
ICE wasn’t snatching students off the street with no identification and denying due process rights.
It’s how you do things not just what you do.
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u/nrappaportrn 1d ago
Unfortunately, MAGAt's don't possess the ability to appreciate nuances. It's all black & white. Literally. Ugh, is this going to get me banned again. Sorry. Not sorry. It's free speech
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u/Plaidducky 1d ago
Maybe not that, but he did drone strike a full born US citizen with no criminal record and no due process and kill him.
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u/LadyBogangles14 1d ago
And that’s still wrong. Who said otherwise?
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u/Plaidducky 1d ago
Think that is the title of the article actually "Obama Breaks Silence on Trump’s ‘Unimaginable’ Presidency - “Imagine if I had done any of this,” the former two-term president said." if he had done any of that he would have gotten off scot-free just like every other president that commits atrocities and war crimes. And I may be a little out of line, but illegally killing someone tends to rank worse in my book then illegally imprisoning someone. Both are terrible and wrong, but one is fixable, the other isn't.
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u/Icy-Bicycle-Crab 23h ago
Good.
There's no due process for enemy combatants during wartime. I guess that joining Al Qaeda and being at an Al Qaeda training camp falls into the "fuck around and find out" category.
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u/glasshalfbeer 1d ago
Or he did these things within the bounds of the law and with a bit of empathy?
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u/Plaidducky 1d ago
Except for that time he killed a US citizen with no due process, that seemed a bit outside of the law since there was no trial, no evidence, no court order, no criminal record.
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u/Ffffqqq 1d ago
The irony is that because he's a Democrat, these actions got less notice.
This is more true of the right than the left. Lots of people criticized Obama for his immigration policy. The right pretends the borders are open any time a Democrat is president. Probably because they don't care about deporting criminals. They WANTED children to be permanently separated from their families. They WANTED people to be sent to foreign concentration camps. Because it was never about immigration. It was about hatred and cruelty.
But I don't really think that's what we're imagining. Try imagining how long it would take for bullets to fly if in 2012 Obama teamed up with George Soros and every communist in the world and he ran a campaign on terminating the Constitution and extreme vengeance against his political enemies.
Well obviously he wouldn't survive long enough to win and would never win on that platform. But imagine if he did win and dismantled the government, installed loyal communists, crashed the stock market, aligned the US with Russia, Iran and North Korea, started trying to anex allies and made deals to send dissidents to foreign mega prisons.
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u/bakerfredricka 23h ago
Obama's most controversial move involved executing a US citizen abroad with absolutely no trial or any sort of due process at all whatsoever.
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u/Ffffqqq 23h ago
True. That's something we heard about for years. But what's SUPER WEIRD is that Trump ran a campaign on taking out terrorists families and then executed that US citizens 8 year old sister in his first week of office. Oh and also, a US soldier died. And nobody knows or cares.
On the campaign trail, Trump endorsed killing relatives of terrorist suspects, which is a war crime. “The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families,” he told Fox News in December 2015.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_Yakla
Between 10[8] and 30 civilians[9] (including Nawar al-Awlaki, the eight-year-old American daughter of the deceased al-Qaeda preacher Anwar al-Awlaki) were killed in the raid along with up to 14 al-Qaeda fighters, as well as American Navy SEAL William Owens.[14] A Bell Boeing MV-22B Osprey was destroyed during the operation.
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