r/machinesinaction • u/raspinberry • 21h ago
"We could never construct the pyramids, even with today's tools.”. Today's tools:
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u/sidrasfoo 21h ago
If building new pyramids was tied to making money….it would be done all over and very quickly
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u/killaluggi 20h ago
AnD The RoMaNs HeAd rOaDs ThAt LaStEd fOr ThousNd Of YeaRs.....
Yea bro, com on, let a view 40t lorrys run over it for a view years and see how it holds up..... Alternatively you can take a srtech of new modern road and let only pedestrians and horse drawn carts over it, see how long it takes till potholes and ridges show up, your great, great, great grand kits can finish that report in a view decades
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u/skaldrir69 20h ago
Curious… how would one achieve great great great grand kids in a few decades?
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u/vanmac82 21h ago
Yeah I never understood that statement. We been cutting stone and stacking it solidly for a long time. Precision come from patience and slavery.
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u/Dave-C 20h ago
There is a good chance they were not built with slaves. At least not the same type of slavery we commonly know from history. We know the workers went on strike and were paid. So it might have been indentured servitude.
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u/Unusual-Voice2345 19h ago
I think the people teaching you history are being awfully generous to say they were workers that went on strike. They were slaves and some at different times were paid. These were built over massive spans of time so it's not one or the other.
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u/Dave-C 19h ago
No, but they literally were workers who got paid and went on strike. The main strike that we know of happened under Ramses the 3rd's rule. It was over not receiving wages and they requested some sort of "cosmetic" which some archaeologist believe would have been a sunscreen. Here is the wiki article about it.
Archaeologists don't believe they were slaves any longer after uncovering where they lived. They ate really well, had proper burials and other things slaves at the time wouldn't have received.
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u/BobbiePinns 9h ago
Probably wage slaves, like us in labour based roles. Construction, landacaping, logistics, labourers, manufacturing, etc.
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u/TheLastRole 21h ago
So there are people out there who think we can build the LHC but not the pyramids?
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u/kinga_forrester 18h ago
Yeah but that’s not even the real shit, LHC is an inter-dimensional gateway and the Egyptians built Washington DC.
It’s mostly just a coping mechanism to feel less small and afraid in a huge and chaotic world.
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u/RinellaWasHere 16h ago
I'm always baffled by that argument. We absolutely could build pyramids today, significantly faster than the ones at Giza. We just don't because pyramids have no particular significance to our culture beyond "this is a reference to the Old Kingdom of Egypt" and "behold, this is where the Bass Pros shop".
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u/SoftwareSource 21h ago
People who say shit like "we couldn't build the pyramids today" never saw the statue of unity in India.
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u/EmotionalHiroshima 20h ago
We built a giant sphere of televisions in Vegas… pretty sure we could build a pyramid if there was a half decent business plan behind it. We’ve basically perfected rectangles as a society.
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u/millerjpm3 20h ago
These people are morons who think we can't stack blocks with today's tech
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u/Confident-Balance-45 17h ago
Nope. We cannot "stack" , and we definitely can't lift 2.2 million pounds in one lift.
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u/RedBullWings17 17h ago
The strongest cranes in the world can lift 20 million pounds.
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u/Confident-Balance-45 17h ago
How far out from the center mass of the machine?
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u/RedBullWings17 17h ago
The strongest cranes in the world are gantry cranes so the load is within the cranes. But there also cantilever cranes that can lift over 6 million lbs 100+ feet from their base.
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u/Confident-Balance-45 17h ago
The great Pyramid is 147 meters tall.
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u/RedBullWings17 16h ago
So?
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u/Confident-Balance-45 16h ago
What gets you the extra 300 feet?
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u/RedBullWings17 16h ago
First of all i just want to make a correction to some of my earlier numbers. I was accidentally converting from tons to kilograms instead of tons to pounds. So the largest gantry crane can lift 45 million lbs not 20 million. The largest cantilever crane can lift 14 million lbs not 6 million.
Second of all I interpreted your earlier question was about how far laterally from the the COG, not height above the ground. As I said it can lift 14 million lbs about a 100ft laterally from its base. It can also lift a bit less than that 500ft laterally from its base.
The crane Ive been talking about can lift loads as high as 750ft. Though at that height they can "only" lift about 6.5 million pounds.
The largest blocks within the pyramid are about 150,000 pounds (not the 2 million lbs that often gets thrown around by you wackjobs). Thats about the same weight as an Abrams tank and we stick those in airplanes and fly them around. They are only a relatively small number of these blocks mostly around the base and in the "core" the vast majority of blocks in the pyramid are much smaller weighing only about 3-7000 lbs.
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u/Confident-Balance-45 15h ago
I'll give you that we can lift enough to place the ground level blocks.
How about the logistics in getting them there?
On a side note ...
Have you seen the latest finding on what is under these Pyramids? Incredible.
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u/Confident-Balance-45 16h ago
🤣 I'm not moving the goal post.
147 meters to the top of the pyramid. I didn't decide how tall it was.
Are you ok?
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u/Crab_Jealous 18h ago
Although it to be fair, some Arab fellas did build the incredible Bhurj Khalifa and not a connection to the sewerage system.
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u/ilkikuinthadik 11h ago
We'll probably live to see a rich person make even bigger pyramids than the current ones for ego and to prove a point
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u/Leverkaas2516 7h ago
Today's video editing tools should have allowed construction of a clip that's watchable. This one isn't.
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u/Substantial_Diver_34 5h ago
Going to need a low draft barge to float those rocks up the Nile. Transporting the material has always baffled me.
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u/pitselehh 19h ago
The pyramids taught humanity what can be achieved if they work as one. Disregard the slavery…
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u/Beneficial_Guest_810 19h ago
We could never think to mound stuff up in the most stable and naturally observed shape known to man.
They were clearly geniuses that understood material science and were given knowledge by aliens... /s
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u/Regular-Let1426 21h ago
Fun fact:
"The Three Gorges Dam, with its massive reservoir, has been found to slightly slow down Earth's rotation by 0.06 microseconds per day, due to the redistribution of water mass and its effect on the planet's moment of inertia"