r/memes 1d ago

Leave them alone🤬🤬🤬

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u/Geno0wl 21h ago

Japan expects loyalty from their employees and shockingly frequently actually shows loyalty back. Their work hour expectations are a nightmare, especially for people who want to have families, but they otherwise do treat their workers a lot better than the US does easily

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u/DetectiveGold4018 20h ago

I mean, in Japan a man can spend practically Zero time with his family and still be considered a good family guy, East Asian societies are kind of like that, even Hindus MENA and Latinos who work ridiculous hours still value spending time with their families in a way that's just alien to Asians

Not even defending how brutal the working hours can get, but it's a completely different culture

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u/RelativeSubstantial5 20h ago

Can we come up with facts and proof instead of just your feelings please?

You guys act like japan game development isn't entire the norm in every single other country.

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u/Geno0wl 20h ago

I mean I am talking about Japan in general, not just Japanese game development. I have worked with several international workers from Japan and they have talked about the good and bad of the different work cultures through casual conversations. Which generally all jived with other anecdotes I have seen from others with similar experiences.

Like most studios go through "crunch" the same as any Japanese developer. That isn't in contention. The overall point is that Japanese studios rarely lay people off compared to western studios. Hell I can even dig up new stories showing Higher ups are Nintendo cutting their own salary in lieu of layoffs. This is a "well known" thing about their work culture.

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u/RelativeSubstantial5 19h ago

So japan doesn't "Expect" loyalty, it's more that they are treated for and aren't at risk for getting fired? Seems quite different compared to the US where you can get fired after being "loyal" for decades like the music producer for halo at bungie.

Look, I know what you're trying to say, but it's ridiculous. Every country has problems and hyper focusing on japan's one core issue is hardly the big contention point people think it is.

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u/Geno0wl 19h ago

but I am not hyper focusing on Japan's "one core issue", it was simply a statement about different ways companies treat employees vs the USA.

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u/RelativeSubstantial5 19h ago

Versus the US? Buddy the US has some of the worst labour laws in the entire world lmao. The same US that's self destroying itself? I do not understand how anyone can even remotely use the US as an argument for anything in 2025 against any country lmao.

The US lays off people in droves there's no other country as bad as the US for this. So no, I entirely disagree with you because it's nonsense to think toxic work culture is even remotely as bad as the risk of not having a roof over your head because you lost your job.