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u/Arguments_4_Ever Mar 04 '25
This would make America great again. It won’t happen, but it objectively would.
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u/Tivadars_Crusade_Vet Mar 04 '25
By what mechanism would Trump and Vance be removed?
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u/whererusteve Mar 04 '25
Google "the French Revolution"
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u/whererusteve Mar 04 '25
Revolution isn't a dirty word. It literally means the completion of a cycle. The founding fathers predicted there would be a revolution every generation. We have to stop thinking that a revolution is a bad thing.
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u/whererusteve Mar 04 '25
Why should people have to die? I don't see why you believe that. Peaceful, nonviolent resistance is possible.
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u/ZealousidealTell9891 Mar 06 '25
People forget were all Americans and probably would be friends if the media and politicians didnt tell us to hate each other. Some of my best friends are on the opposite side of the political spectrum.
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u/Robsurgence Mar 04 '25
14th Amendment, Section 3 is self-executing. But we can’t seem to get anyone in Congress to stand up and say so.
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u/Tivadars_Crusade_Vet Mar 04 '25
Was trump ever found guilty of insurrection? And how would that remove Vance?
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u/Robsurgence Mar 04 '25
Supreme Court of Colorado ruled he was guilty of insurrection. Therefore he’s illegally occupying the office, and should not have been certified by Congress. Prez and VP also run as a single ticket, so they are both illegal.
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u/Tivadars_Crusade_Vet Mar 04 '25
The US Supreme Court reversed the Colorado Supreme Court decision. I'm telling you him being removed isn't going to happen, at least not by this method. And let's say somehow that happens, Vance will not be removed simply because there is nothing in ammendment 14. Section 3 that disqualifies a person from running on a ticket of someone who was disqualified from running. This is a pipe dream.
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u/Robsurgence Mar 05 '25
SCOTUS did not reverse the decision. They said that only states can decide how their own elections are run. They went on to speculate how Congress could handle that disqualification, but this is dicta and not an official ruling. 14-3 remains self-executing.
Jessica Denson just had a legal scholar on about this very subject tonight. https://youtu.be/CcUzoe6eXvw?si=UScLk3J0NQ_c3dNz
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u/fleebleganger 27d ago
What power does the supreme court of Colorado have over the federal government?
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u/Robsurgence 26d ago
States are specifically given the power to run their own elections and determine which candidates are eligible to run by the Constitution. SCOTUS can’t change that.
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u/fleebleganger 26d ago
Correct, however, Colorado saying Trump is an insurrectionist doesnt matter to the federal government, it isnt a reason to boot him from office.
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u/Robsurgence 14d ago
Funny? I’d say more maddeningly frustrating and tragic that this is the situation we’re dealing with.
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u/Alexandratta Mar 04 '25
impeachment but the main thing is that he's already violated his oath of office on day one by pushing an Executive Order which violated the Natural Citizenship amendment in the Constitution.
One that EO gets immediately tossed out Impeachment proceedings can begin. Sadly he won't be impeached because he has Congress in Putin's back pocket.
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u/BobbySweets Mar 04 '25
Add the fairness doctrine. Make news news again and not propaganda.
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u/t-mille Mar 06 '25
Expand the Fairness Doctrine to cable networks too. The original law did not.
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u/kingkool88 Mar 04 '25
I still hold hope that a hero emerges to end this mess. They're out there somewhere
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u/WaltKerman Mar 04 '25
And do what?
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u/p0st_master Mar 04 '25
Probably go to jail in a targeted doj prosecution a la what trump said he was up against
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u/Robsurgence Mar 04 '25
Lawsuits are happening. We need to demand more thorough audits in the swing states. And a paper ballot recount.
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u/bravogusto Mar 04 '25
Citizens United is the single largest contributor to how fucked up things are right now.
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u/cardcatalogs Mar 04 '25
That’s a terrible design for a yard sign
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u/Robsurgence Mar 04 '25
Please improve it
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u/snailboyjr Mar 04 '25
Grabbed the domains for this to use as a landing page for people only seeing these flyers / signs. Will keep adding the demands as I have time throughout the day. Feel free to reach out if you want to help build it out further.
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u/PhenomeNarc Mar 04 '25
Recover:
Universal Healthcare
Free or Near Free College
Basic Housing For All
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u/Robsurgence Mar 05 '25
And we could easily have those things if the billionaire class didn’t horde all the wealth.
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u/jbsgc99 Mar 05 '25
There’s going to have to be a HARSH reckoning with those that participated in this travesty of an administration.
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u/jmartin2683 Mar 06 '25
We just voted for this overwhelmingly. Trump won, by a significant margin. He did so without deceiving anyone at all about his intentions.
This is just what democracy produced this time. It’s why they let us keep the guns, they just didn’t expect that only half the country would get that and it’d be the same half that’d fall prey to a charismatic dictator
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u/beckiellama 2d ago
I don't know anything about Project 2025...liar in chief said. Now he is instigating the Project 2025 plan which NO ONE wants. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-project-2025-playbook/
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u/UFOatLAX Mar 07 '25
This is based af AND ITS PINNED!
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u/Robsurgence Mar 07 '25
Based?
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u/UFOatLAX 29d ago
It means it is unapologetically truthful. It's nice to see on reddit, pinned in a sub. For like 8 years this site has been purging progressives. It is heartening to see someone standing up against everything happening.
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u/Robsurgence 28d ago
Oh thanks! I thought it might have been a typo of “biased” 🤣
I’m trying to take a stand for truth and justice, and get the word out there.
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u/pacmanwa 29d ago
That whole checks and balances thing that is supposed to happen hasn't really since the Clinton administration.
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u/alimg2020 Mar 04 '25
Government FOR the people. They work for US
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u/smithjw13 Mar 04 '25
It’s gonna be very hard to remove, reverse, reclaim when you live in a vacuum. Yes you get a lot of votes here for sounding like a revolutionists. But about half the American population like what’s going on and more than that dont give a shit about what you think.
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u/Barailis Mar 04 '25
It's not half. Of the total voting population, only 23% voted for him. ~77,302,580 of the ~330,000,000 us pop voted for him. Thats 23% of the total US pop that could possibly vote. So no, not half of America voted for this. He's also losing people now because of his efforts to harm the US.
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u/smithjw13 Mar 04 '25
Didn’t say vote…You realize that ppl under 18 have opinions as well. So using the total us population vs registered voters who choose Trump. Be better and don’t manufacture numbers to make yourself sound informed
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u/Robsurgence Mar 04 '25
They can’t vote, and so they’re usually much less informed. And they are much more willing to trust the nonsense their parents say. Or alt right influencers.
To my great shame, I listened to my parents and voted for Bush when I was 18. That started me down the path to hardcore liberal today.
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u/smithjw13 Mar 04 '25
So because you made a decision when you were their age (without the internet, or cell phones, or missions to mars) you are saying a whole generation shouldn’t get a say or that what they think is less important. And because of said sheep decision you are now “hardcore liberal” which is just a rebellion stage imo.
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u/Nykramas Mar 04 '25
If OP means JR, there was definitely Internet and cell phones. He didn't even get elected until 2000. Even I had Internet and a cellphone by the time he was up for re-election and I'm too young to have voted for Bush.
Its weird that people nowadays think there was no household Internet in the 90s.
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u/Robsurgence Mar 04 '25
A 20 year rebellion stage? Laughable. That’s called education. And I learned who the real bad guys are.
Young people are of course entitled to their opinion, and I will respect them. But if those opinions are uninformed, I will call it out as such. If you think Trump has the best interest of the youngest generation, you’ve been conned. Agent Krasnov has been doing this for decades.
You’re clearly not millennial, because we had the internet back then. It just came on a CD and your parents would yell at you to get off the damn computer so they could use the phone.
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u/This_Hedgehog_3246 Mar 04 '25
Isn't the reversing the massive cuts to the federal administrative agencies contrary to the idea of ending federal overreach?
Massive federal overreach exploded with FDR and the new deal. Only by ending the massive reach of those federal agencies by dismantling them can we really end executive overreach.
Ending citizens United is a good start, but until you limit the power of government to the point that there isn't a return to be made on buying politicians, you'll never get money out of politics.
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u/GreenHocker Mar 04 '25
And after all of that is done, we need to also end political parties so there isn’t some large bag of money supporting candidates that the public didn’t ask for or want
Let’s make things about the individual and their policies and not about what fucking color tie/dress the politician is wearing
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u/Trojanlamb Mar 04 '25
So to stop executive over reach one must executively over reach
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u/Robsurgence Mar 04 '25
No, one must respect the Constitution, and utilize the standard-length totally-agreed -upon arm of the law.
Amendment 14-3 says no insurrectionists.
Constitution says no kings.
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u/Dasmahkitteh Mar 04 '25
Reduce: reduce the amount of political content you consume
Reuse: reuse your original gender
Recycle: remake the entire news cycle
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u/siecin Mar 04 '25
If you think gender is ANY sort of problem plaguing our country, you are part of the problem.
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u/Dasmahkitteh Mar 04 '25
Except Trump won running on getting rid of it lol
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u/IDeserveThis Mar 04 '25
He ran og getting rid of gender? So we're all agender now?
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u/Dasmahkitteh Mar 04 '25
if I pretend to not know about the thing I otherwise complain about and already know, I can summarize it wrong and make it sound silly
Trump resigned
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u/welderguy69nice Mar 04 '25
Trump won because people were feeling smothered at the cost of every day expenses and a weak Democratic candidate thrust upon as right before the election, not because of identity politics.
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u/Knowledge-ing Mar 04 '25
I got a bridge to sell you if you're still worried about your gender names!! These trumptards man!🤦♂️
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u/Dasmahkitteh Mar 04 '25
You mean genders? What's a gender name?
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u/Knowledge-ing Mar 04 '25
What is with you and words my boy?? They're just letters! I wish you worried this much for those around you who undoubtedly will be affected by the dumbassery (btw I made that word up just for you) of your king! 🤦♂️ sigh I give up on your trumptards!
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u/Dasmahkitteh Mar 04 '25
Actually words are letters plus an additional meaning when combined together
Also dumbassery has been around for quite a while. Ya know, words and all. Good try
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u/TheRimmerodJobs Mar 04 '25
This is some funny shit. Thanks for the shitpost.
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u/Robsurgence Mar 04 '25
I don’t find the death of 250 years of our Republic as particularly funny. Tragic and infuriating really.
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u/runlikethewind123 Mar 04 '25
Didn’t know this was a politics sub Reddit. Just read mod notes. Unsubscribed. Have fun
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u/Robsurgence Mar 05 '25
The thing is, politics affects us all. And things are pretty bad right now. Musk and his boys have my social, they’re coming for social security, and my dang eggs are even more expensive than ever!!!
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u/THEdopealope Mar 04 '25
Rebuild international good will?