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u/skyxsteel 9d ago edited 9d ago
I'd pay to get DeSantis a CT scan, so I can see the amount of brain damage he has
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u/SandiegoJack 9d ago
The one thing I am grateful to federman for is that he proved is that republicans are just democrats with brain damage.
Like a democrat needs to have brain damage for republican ideas to seem appealing.
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u/NoMoreNarcissists 9d ago
do personality disorders show up??
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u/skyxsteel 9d ago
I know some disorders show up in scans. It's obviously a comparison after they've had a scan for something else, but for some yea they can see trends.
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u/Reach_304 8d ago
Many congress critters are prescribed Alzheimers medication 🤫 Thats not concerning at all though
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u/grandkidJEV 9d ago
Yeah because who wouldn’t want their 14 year old daughter working overnight somewhere? 🤨🧐
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u/wickedtwig 9d ago
Obviously the party that believes in pro life and is anti abortion
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u/cannabull89 9d ago
The irony of course is that children end up getting maimed or dying from workplace accidents, like Michael Shuls. They’re only pro-life until after you’re born.
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u/wickedtwig 9d ago
Well you also have to consider a 14 year olds safety in other ways too for overnight. From assault to robbery to injury on the job. Or even interacting with other adults willingly. Lots of stuff happens overnight with just adults alone, believe you me. What about kids who can’t protect themselves?
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u/cannabull89 8d ago
Yup, apparently republicans think exploiting children is perfectly fine. When the predators write the laws, this is what people should expect.
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u/DolliGoth 9d ago
I went to school with a girl who's parents would 100% have had her working 2+ jobs at 14 whether it was overnights in a sketchy warehouse or somewhere safer. The parents who are going to take advantage of the changes are the worst types of people in the first place.
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u/Patient_Ad1801 9d ago
A Venn diagram of this would be a circle... people who want children working overnight vs people who want to lower marriage age to 12 (look how many chucklefucks are trying to roll back consent age laws etc at local levels)
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u/Viggo_Stark 9d ago
"Due to lack of migrant workers" And whose fault is that? Jesus Christ, this would be a comedy show if it wasn't this bad.
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u/F1ghtmast3r 9d ago
During the Industrial Revolution in America (roughly the late 1700s to early 1900s), labor laws were nearly nonexistent. Employers had total control over workers, and conditions were brutal. Here’s a breakdown of how bad it got:
Work Hours & Breaks (or Lack Thereof) • There were no standardized work hours. A typical workday was 12-16 hours, six to seven days a week. • Breaks were entirely at the employer’s discretion. Many jobs had no guaranteed meal breaks or rest periods. • The concept of a “weekend” didn’t exist for most workers—Sunday might be a day off for religious reasons, but even that wasn’t guaranteed.
Child Labor • Children as young as 5 or 6 were employed in factories, mines, and mills. • They worked the same long hours as adults but were paid significantly less. • Many children suffered crippling injuries from dangerous machinery. • The factory system valued speed and efficiency over safety, so many child workers lost fingers, limbs, or even their lives. • Education suffered because children worked instead of going to school.
Workplace Safety (or the Lack of It) • No OSHA. No regulations. Factories were filthy, overcrowded, poorly ventilated, and full of dangerous machinery. • Machines had no safety guards, leading to frequent and gruesome accidents. • In textile mills, workers inhaled cotton dust, causing lung disease. • In coal mines, explosions and collapses were common. • Industrial fires were rampant—like the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire in 1911, where 146 garment workers (mostly women and girls) died because exit doors were locked to prevent unauthorized breaks.
Wages & Exploitation • No minimum wage. Most workers earned barely enough to survive. • Wage theft was common—employers shorted workers or changed pay rates arbitrarily. • Company towns and company stores kept workers trapped. Some businesses paid wages in “scrip,” a type of currency that was only valid at overpriced company-owned stores, making it nearly impossible to escape poverty.
Workers’ Rights (or the Absence of Them) • No unions at first. If you protested, you were fired, blacklisted, or even beaten. • Strikes were met with violence—employers hired private militias (like the Pinkertons) or got the government to send in troops to crush labor movements. • The Ludlow Massacre (1914) saw coal miners and their families killed by the National Guard during a strike for better conditions. • Employers could fire you for any reason—there was no such thing as wrongful termination protections.
Discrimination & Segregation • Women and minorities were paid even less than white men. • Black workers were often denied skilled jobs entirely or were used as strikebreakers to keep wages low. • Immigrant workers were treated as disposable labor, with the worst, most dangerous jobs. • Sweatshops were packed with women and immigrants working in slave-like conditions.
The Slow March Toward Worker Protections • The first major labor law (the Fair Labor Standards Act, 1938) finally: • Set a 40-hour workweek (before that, even 60+ hours was normal). • Established a minimum wage. • Banned child labor (mostly—some forms still persisted). • Required overtime pay. • Workers’ rights didn’t come easily—people died for them.
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Why It Feels Like It’s Coming Back
You’re not wrong to think we’re heading back to these conditions. Corporations are pushing for: • “At-will” employment dominance (making it easy to fire workers with no recourse). • Union busting, using aggressive tactics to keep workers from organizing. • Gig economy loopholes, where companies like Uber and Amazon skirt labor laws by keeping workers as “independent contractors” instead of employees. • Wage stagnation, with the cost of living skyrocketing while real wages barely move. • Exploiting desperate workers, forcing people to take terrible jobs just to survive. • Ignoring safety regulations, cutting corners to maximize profit.
History shows that when protections weaken, corporations don’t hesitate to bring back brutal conditions. If people don’t push back, we could absolutely see a return to something like the Industrial Revolution’s worst labor practices.
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u/roguebandwidth 8d ago
Frances Perkins is THE reason for the 40 hour work week, end of child labor, and for the idea and implementation of Social Security. Her name is hardly known, and yet her actions as a lawmaker (and one of the first female lawmakers) were life-changing for hundreds of millions of people, and into the billions as her legacy continued, and those labor laws were copied worldwide. She is arguably the most important political figure America has ever had.
The GOAT Frances Perkins.
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u/iLaysChipz 7d ago edited 7d ago
Ah yes, this is the kind of free market I like to see! These darn regulations just get in the way of progress! Everyone knows that we'd generate far more profit if we'd just be willing to bear with a little human suffering and cruelty. Doesn't that just sound great? /s
Since wealth translates into political power or influence in capitalistic societies, brutal wage slavery is an inevitable consequence that will always haunt modern day society. We Americans have been taught in schools that communism is the real danger, that such a society is doomed to fail because of human greed. So they convince us that we have to stick with capitalism, where greed is a virtue. But where has that gotten us?
The fact of the matter is that the communist regimes in history haven't failed because of corruption, but because of Western intervention and CIA psyops that force them into the ground. The ultimate irony is that they do fail because of human greed, but not from the people in the communist societies, but those in capitalistic ones.
They hold their "science" of economics as proof that the free market leads to the most equitable society, but the entire model is based on the idea that those who value a resource more will pay more for it. In fact, that idea is the cornerstone of every model and equation in the "science" of economics. Gosh, Jeff Bezos must surely value healthcare billions of times more than I do, said no one ever.
If we truly want to move on as a society, we need to seriously start questioning everything we've ever been told; every piece of capitalistic propaganda that tells us the system we live in is the only one that works. What we need is class consciousness and working class solidarity. And especially right now, what we need to end these culture wars that have been engineered to divide us and hate each other, and start looking at who really has the boot pressed down on our necks
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u/ChocolateBurger9963 7d ago
This was a excellent post. I've learned some new things after reading this.
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u/DocWicked25 9d ago
Republicans. And more specifically, capitalism.
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u/GCI_Arch_Rating 9d ago
I wish the democrats were anti-capitalist. We're not that lucky.
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u/ChimiChango8 9d ago
Democrats are corporatists. Republicans are rich oligarchs.
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u/phoenixjazz 9d ago
Two sides of the same bad penny
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u/KuteKitt 8d ago edited 8d ago
But only one side would turn back laws that protect the rights of citizens and children and not force us into labor camps or ship us to foreign prisons if we speak out against us. I don’t think it’s a coin anymore but a long stick and republicans are way on the other end in evil..
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u/iSo_Cold 9d ago
It's entirely Capitalism. Democrats are equally culpable. The only real solution if we want to preserve any part of the system is new parties built ground up with no ties to Corporate or other moneyed interests.
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u/Mandelvolt 9d ago
Can't do that without repealing Citizen's United.
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u/iSo_Cold 8d ago
I'm not well-versed I'm these things. What's stopping us here on Reddit for example, from developing a platform selecting candidates, campaigning for them, raising money from donations, and volunteering our time?
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u/Mandelvolt 8d ago
Basically nothing, but you have to get the message out to the voting public and that usually requires $$$.
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u/dinosaursloth143 9d ago
No- a freshman in high school should not be working overnight. They will be so tired and either miss school the next day or fall asleep during class.
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u/Gloglibologna 9d ago
That's the point. They want workers and soldiers. They don't give a fuck about education
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u/3x3Eyes 9d ago
But many jobs including the military require well educated personnel. Short sighted greed.
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u/Gloglibologna 9d ago
Basic infantry are barely educated at best. I seen it first hand living in a rural town that 30-40% of boys in high-school went into the military.
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u/dinosaursloth143 8d ago
And it keeps kids in poverty. They will address their family’s immediate needs, drop out of school to work. Their futures and potential to get out of poverty will be negatively impacted.
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u/Green_Amnesia 9d ago
Deport migrants > labor shortage > bring back child labor
Is this seriously the fucking GOP playbook right now?
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u/no1jam 9d ago
Regressing to “maga” is the plan. When was america great? Funny thing, thats never been explained. Turns out it was before people groups like women and minorities had rights, and before we had pesky things like child labor laws and education. Besides, the children yearn for the mines!
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u/Forsaken_Oil_193 9d ago
…supporters of the changes say that the measures will give teens experience and skills that will help them later in life.
Read: these measures will condition children to be receptive to systemic, corporate abuse.
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u/wickedtwig 9d ago
It’s almost as if history repeats itself and people don’t pay attention to history thinking they will be different
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u/Adventurous-Cry-2157 9d ago
Folks need to read up on what it was like for the average person during the Industrial Revolution, before we had these protections, literally the reason we fought for these protections. It was terrible for workers.
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u/3x3Eyes 9d ago
Back then labor unions eventually won, but not by striking, instead they eventually went directly after management in their homes.
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u/wickedtwig 9d ago
One of the problems we have today is a good number of unions generally don’t do much for the average worker that isn’t in a trade or factory or something. Because of that all unions get a bad rap.
It doesn’t help a lot of unions in the trades are also supportive of Republican policies, something I find baffling
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u/Adventurous-Cry-2157 9d ago
I like it.
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u/jenjensexypants 8d ago
My husbands a union electrician. He’s part of the IBEW. Those guys aren’t scared to get their hands dirty. Historically they’ve fought and people died for them to have what they have. When they asked what they would do if anyone tried that fuckshit again the response collectively was over their dead body. Keep in mind these guys are not office workers. Most have spent their lives in construction.
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u/KuteKitt 8d ago
People think- “it’ll never happen in this day and age,’ until it does. They are so used to having protections that they don’t think those protections can be take away when they foolishly vote in rich corporate oligarchs who rather we and our children slave away for them so they can get richer and abuse us without consequence.
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u/wickedtwig 8d ago
I think part of the problem is that we have become complacent. A lot of our grandparents fought and died for some of these rights to be given to future generations. As someone whose family immigrated during these times, I don’t think I have anyone who had a hand in it. However I recognize and appreciate the blood spilled for some of these things to happen.
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u/18karatcake 9d ago
Working hours like this also ensures they miss school. People who miss school don’t learn. The uneducated are often times in low-income jobs, overworked, tired and sick (because they can’t pay for healthcare). All of this makes the general population easier to control.
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u/No_Signature3073 9d ago
Lol teens are going to work like it’s 1940
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u/Adventurous-Cry-2157 9d ago
Keep going further back. Like Industrial Revolution conditions. Low wages, 16 hour shifts, no breaks, dirty and dangerous, no safety regulations, children as young as 5 working. Vacations? Those will become a thing of the past. Sick time? Personal time? Work from home? Forget it. And of course, they’ll get rid of ACA, and go back to having your healthcare tied to employment, which means if anyone in your family is sick, you stay in line because you need that job to pay for their care. By the end of the day, you’re too exhausted to fight back, too scared to speak up, too damn tired to make waves, too worn down trying to simply survive.
THAT is what they’re working towards. And the rich get richer.
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u/SharpieScentedSoap 8d ago
Guess that's the "great" he was talking about in "make America great again"
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u/TheCheshireCatCan 9d ago
The department of education implemented laws preventing child labor, but noooo, it was just too expensive.
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u/tacomeatface 9d ago
Well Kamala’s slogan was “we’re not going back” and people didn’t vote instead so
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u/PHANTOM________ 9d ago
Florida can go fuck themselves anyway. (Which is what this law change is doing lmao)
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u/juansemoncayo 9d ago
Because they prefer child labor rather than increasing your minimum wage and all salaries
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u/StarsEatMyCrown 9d ago
Do r/conservatives even care about this? Just curious. I don't want to check.
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u/Aggressive-Name-1783 9d ago
Somehow that subreddit is even worse than r/conservative.
Watching a bunch of then openly campaign for a dictatorship is honestly hilarious. Can’t wait to laugh at them when they get sent to the gulag with the rest of us
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u/Any_Leg_1998 9d ago
If I see a 13 or 14-year-old giving me my burger at Mickey D's, I'm not eating it, I don't trust middle schoolers or early highschools to wash their hands. People that age are gross in general.
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u/some1guystuff 9d ago
Isn’t Florida’s economy pretty solidly based on tourism and if tourism takes giant hit the state is gonna lose a shit ton of money?
70+ percent of flights from Canada to the United States have been cancelled by Canadian citizens because of that fucking rotten orange you put in power
Florida is gonna hit this hard. Have fun.
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u/OnePunchReality 9d ago
Because the rich need their cogs to turn.
Even influencers are complicit.
You see some jagoff out in public farming there is at least a non zero chance those fuckers are paid by someone to push something. Fuck em.
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u/xasialynnx 9d ago
Easy to see the intent. Ruin and defund education and send the kids to work instead
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u/Extension_Deal_5315 9d ago
Is this where they want America to go...
Take advantage of child labor....
WTH....
Maybe you shouldn't have gotten rid of the immigrant labor....
Dumbasses
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u/gadgaurd 9d ago
This is one of the many things MAGA has always wanted. Another step towards bringing back slavery. Some parents are absolutely gonna force their kids to work and then take all their earnings.
MAGA voted for this, and too many people decided not to oppose this.
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u/cha0ssurfer 9d ago
This isn't a secret at all Trump came out and called the gilded age the golden age which was good really only for the robber barons. Everyone else gets fucked. For reference gilded age was named that after mark twain but is generally considered the period of industrial revolution post reconstruction period of the Civil War. It includes Jim crow, the destruction of native Americans, the days of monopolies and unions. It didn't turn around until Teddy came along and the progressive era began. Fun fact Marx wrote the communist manifesto examining this period of us history. Only way to stop the fuckers is to band together and get really loud. The heritage foundation has been working toward this goal since at least 1971 if I had my way that group would all be sent to jail they are traitors.
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u/tactiphile 9d ago
Progressives are the enemy, so you fight back by being regressive.
Unrelated now, I wonder how many maggots avoid Progressive car insurance...
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u/Specific-Aide9475 9d ago
Work overnight and then go to school?
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u/-Fast-Molasses- 8d ago
Take away school lunches & also mandatory lunch breaks at work. Kids would be dropping dead from exhaustion & starving.
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u/Majestickenny12 1992 9d ago
This is a direct result for not wanting migrant labor in your state. You’re forced to resort to a very old, dangerous and beyond outdated form of labor. Who’s kids finna be doing this anyways?
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u/DiabloStorm 9d ago
Trumps entire campaign slogan was "Take America Back"
What did you expect? How far back is the question.
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u/Melgel4444 9d ago
Republicans: “I hear Minecraft is popular with the youth…children yearn for the mines”
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u/veg_head_86 9d ago
Things like this are a direct reason for why I'm not having children. I am educated, my partner and I can afford it, I'm reaching the last few years where it's even practical to get pregnant biologically... yet every time my hormones scream for babies I smack them down like we're playing whack a mole.
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u/ChocolateBurger9963 7d ago
I agree with your reasoning. Having kids is too risky, especially if they can be forced into pseudo slavery as teens.
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u/sunshine_tequila 9d ago
This is absolutely going to lead to more teens being sexually assaulted. The majority of offenders are in positions of authority, ie managers/shop owners. Without witnesses or cameras, teens will have little say for any kind of mistreatment, not just sexual abuse. I would suspect more wage theft as well due to lack of oversight.
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u/Realistic_Trip9243 9d ago
We are going backwards because people are more interested in making money than on the wellbeing of the people.
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u/SnooStrawberries2955 9d ago
They’re doing this because now that they’ve gotten rid of all the brown people, who will pick our crops?
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u/whoisdatmaskedman 9d ago
"we can't exploit migrant workers, so let's exploit our children instead!"
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u/Quetzalcoatl490 8d ago
What a fucking garbage, sorry-ass excuse for a state. And my parents wonder why I won't join them on vacation down there when they rent a house for February near Tampa.
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u/486Junkie 8d ago
Welcome to Corporate America where they don't give a fuck about you and pay $7.25/hr
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u/Wild_Chef6597 9d ago
Any parent for this should have their kids work under these conditions.
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u/18karatcake 9d ago
The type of parents who would be ok with their child working these types of hours are shit parents.
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u/Wild_Chef6597 9d ago
The type of person who supports this doesn't have kids who would be affected.
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u/RunMysterious6380 9d ago
This is basically what they've already done in a bunch of red states, like Indiana, Alabama, etc. They've been doing this, mostly under the radar, for the past few years.
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u/fantasylover750 9d ago
So desperate are they to turn back the clock they took the brakes off the gears.
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u/bruceleet7865 9d ago
Capitalism overlords demand labor for their slave factories…err I mean “companies”
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u/LittleTheodore 8d ago
They don’t want educated people, because educated people are more likely to oppose their fuckery. Destroying the economy and lifting child labor laws will put teens to work, apparently overnight, and that will keep them out of school. Tada!
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u/willowofthevalley 8d ago
Soon we will have 3 year old chimney sweeps again...all in the name of REDUCING DEBT. What are human rights again, after all?
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u/RainbowsAndBubbles 8d ago
This is only going to hurt the people who need the most compassion and support. No big deal, right?
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u/Feline_Fine3 8d ago
Because they are rounding up undocumented citizens who would normally be working some of these jobs. Keeping kids working means they will have less time for their education. Uneducated citizens are easier to control.
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u/ha_ha_hayley92 8d ago
I feel like the whole point of this is to keep people uneducated, birthing more stupid people who will be willing to work for scraps.
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u/meowEwowEE 9d ago
Didn't DeSatanis pass something a few months ago where kids can withdraw from school to go work FT?? I can't remember the exact details bc it was a while ago & I have the memory of a goldfish.
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u/L0nlySt0nr 9d ago
I can't find that post where Kevin Sorbo was poking fun at the "who will pick our crops" comments.
This is who will pick your crops, mister Sorbo. This is one of the things we were afraid of. This is what people were trying to warn against. The rich don't care who the slaves are or how old.
To be fair, nobody wants undocumented immigrants picking crops, but nobody else is willing to work so hard for so little pay. Pay a fair wage, and you won't have this problem. Streamline the immigration process so it doesn't take a decade or more and you won't have this problem. Embrace the lessons of the Statue of Liberty, and we won't have this problem.
Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door.
But you don't want an actual solution. You don't care that they all pay taxes just like the rest of us. You just want to point fingers. Well, have the day you voted for. And get ready to pull yourself up by your avocado toast straps.
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u/AscendantBae9 8d ago
What if the parents let them, they're members of a working family and need the cash while they finish school, are just out juvie...maybe they're truants and would do best in the trades...or they're raising themselves because the parents are locked up, dead, drug-addicted...or otherwise absent in their lives? Is The State still Evil?
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u/numbed23 8d ago
Because Gez Z is completly opposite of us millenials. They courige all values we considered the lowest one. They are diametraly opposite and they are now who shape this world. And instead emphaty, compassion and care for others they force other values
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u/Outlaw11091 8d ago
Because you don't have to simply out vote the opposite viewpoint.
You also have to overcome the number of STUPID PEOPLE who vote against their own interests.
Good news is that we'll be retired dead by the time the real bad shit starts .
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u/dried_lipstick 8d ago
I live here. My child is going into second grade. Lemme tell you, you’d get second grade effort and outcome if he were hired by literally anyone.
And I’m a teacher and we use high schoolers to help with aftercare. Those kids cannot get to their job on time for the life of them. They literally just have to walk to the campus next door to get to our school and they can’t do it.
Good luck Florida! We’re all gonna have mushed up berries with kids running the show.
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u/LetsGoDro 8d ago
I worked when I was young and I think it’s the best thing that I could have done at the time. We need to show kids how to be productive members of our society. Most teens nowadays don’t have the same work ethic that was instilled in so many of us millennials.
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u/sbaggers 8d ago
When the Motto is "Make America great again", did they ever tell you when they thought America was great before?
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u/nuniinunii 7d ago
Genuinely curious what Republicans/MAGAs feel about this and if this is what they agree is going to make us great lol. Like are they celebrating? “YES THANK YOU! THIS IS WHY WE VOTED FOR YOU. FINALLY SOME SHIT IS BEING DONE RIGHT”
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u/IWasBorn2DoGoBe 6d ago
I posted this on my sm feed and literally had MaGAts commenting that “kids need work ethic”, “I had a job at 12”, “this would be good for the economy”… blah blah blah
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u/sloppy_steaks24 9d ago
Because the appetite of the rich cannot be satisfied