r/movies • u/Vanderlyley • 28d ago

News Paramount Posts $286M Fourth Quarter Streaming Loss

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/paramount-fourth-quarter-streaming-1236148263/
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u/johnnycoxxx 28d ago

It is the single worst app I’ve ever tried to use across Any platform period. It constantly crashes and is the slowest loading fucking thing ever. Reminds me of when I first got an iPhone back in 09 waiting for shit to load.

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u/Kaldricus 28d ago

I usually find that when people complain about how bad an app is, it's a little hyperbolic.

Paramount+ might genuinely be the worst streaming app I've ever used. It's so dogshit. It's slow, unresponsive, skips over what you're trying to get to. Literally used it just for Dexter Original Sin and it was a nightmare.

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u/royrese 28d ago

Lol yeah that app functioned like a virus on my 4k FireTV Max last time I tried it. It would get slowdowns, then when I exited and went to other apps, THEY would get slowdowns and stutters. Had to restart the whole device to clear it up.

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u/SoMuchMoreEagle 28d ago

It works surprisingly well on my 5+yo Roku, but works like garbage on my tablets.

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u/Fraktal55 27d ago

This shit wouldn't even remember what episodes of shows we were on while watching.

We had it to watch The Amazing Race for the most part. There are 30+ seasons of that with 10+ episodes per season. The app is slow as shit and doesn't remember what season or episode you're watching.

So you have to not only FIND the show because it hasn't saved it, you then have to slowly scroll then dozens of seasons to get the one you're watching, then slowly scroll through dozens of episodes to find the right one you're at.

I really can't believe how bad it was. It's 2025. It shouldn't be this hard for streaming apps to get the bare basics right.

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u/Dudelsacks 27d ago

Sounds like you're watching it via the amazon app.

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u/FatherAntithetical 27d ago

On PC directly from their own site. It doesn’t remember anything you’ve watched. Shits garbage.

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u/SoMuchMoreEagle 27d ago

I haven't had a problem with resuming shows from where I left off. It mostly just freezes and stutters constantly for certain shows (but not others).

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u/TooStrangeForWeird 27d ago

The Roku probably has an older version of the app, would be my guess.

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u/FatherAntithetical 27d ago

Their PC version also doesn’t remember anything.

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u/turdferg1234 28d ago

4k FireTV Max

lol, loser streaming device.

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u/WorkSucks135 28d ago

I raise you the xfinity stream app

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u/Ashamed_Job_8151 20d ago

Worst app ever and I’m not just talking about streaming apps. We use my parents Verizontv app when we want to watch something that’s on cable and terrible yet still a thousand times better than comcast. 

Ironically comcast is the same company where a supervisor many many years ago told me I wasn’t “comcastic” enough because I didn’t want to up sell a 90 year old woman who broken equipment on the plan she already couldn’t afford. I agreed and quit on the spot and damn near hit the guy to try and free him from the cult. 

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u/frank560 27d ago

What do people use xfinity for?

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u/daredevil82 27d ago

Which platform? The AppleTV app isn't the greatest but it isn't unusable. The biggest issue I've had is it froze when opening a NFL live stream, but exiting out and restarting loaded the content just fine.

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u/BigLorry 27d ago

Yeah I consider myself just super lucky or something because on AppleTV I don’t think I’ve ever had a single slight issue with this app, but the vitriol for it online is intense.

I hope I continue to be lucky

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u/pinkorchids45 27d ago

How hard is it to have the app go back to the tv show your watching’s Home Screen if you press the back button? Apparently it’s some complicated genius level equation Paramount can’t figure out lol. So when they inevitably send you to the wrong episode of the show you’re watching because the app on your tv can’t keep up with the app on your phone, you have to physically search for the tv show in order to get to the right episode because clicking on the show in home just constantly takes you back to that one spot.

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u/Bigred2989- 27d ago

I refuse to watch P+ content on a FireStick because of how damn long it takes to get it working. It's like they never figured out how to optimize it for that device.

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u/captstix 27d ago

We don't have cable, and only stream. Went to watch Big Brother last season, and the preview video literally showed who got voted off that episode. The app is awful.

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u/ToonaSandWatch 27d ago

It doesn’t even show me the last show I watched to continue watching it up front. I have to dig down into my added list to find it or go 5-10 shows down the continue list to find it.

I will say they at least have a block of commercials in front of the movie and leave you alone after that.

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u/Out_of_the_Bloo 28d ago edited 28d ago

It CHUGS. Like loading a web page from the 90s. LG C1 and even if you leave the app open after loading, it doesn't cache shit. I'm not even talking the shows, just the interface and looking through the catalog. No other app is this shitty that I've used. Hulu, apple TV, Netflix, Amazon prime, lgs own apps, emby, YouTube, all very performant some more than others but to acceptable levels at least. You can't fucking scroll this thing half the time.

Once I got to the movie I wanted, it streamed fine, but what a nightmare to even come back and resume what I had previously watched

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u/T7220 28d ago

“IT SKIPS OVER WHAT YOURE TRYING TO GET TO”!!!!!!!!!

Every GOD DAMN TIME!!!!!!!!

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u/hatsnatcher23 27d ago

Was Original sin any good? I’m a little frustrated they won’t let stuff die but I did enjoy the original series

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u/Kaldricus 27d ago

I thought it was really good. A little corny at times, but it was fun. Patrick Gibson nailed Dexter and his mannerisms

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u/murphymc 27d ago edited 27d ago

Even when it works it’s still utter garbage. I use an Xbox Series X for streaming stuff in my living room. A streaming app should be absolutely trivial for it, yet Paramount+ chugs at times.

Netflix, Prime, Peacock, Max, and YouTube don’t have this problem at all. Only Paramount apparently forgot to make sure their app works on higher current gen hardware. I honestly can’t imagine what trying to use that app on some Walmart bottom tier smart TV is like.

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u/fuidiot 27d ago

That’s weird, I had no idea people had problems with it, it works fine for me. I’ll talking about paramount+

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u/MrZeral 27d ago

So glad in my country we get their stuff on Skyshowtime, we dont have Paramount here

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u/Not_Hilary_Clinton 27d ago

The AMC+ app is so much worse.

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u/DisAppointedPotato01 27d ago

Also, the commercials are awful. Tried putting paw patrol on for my kid and it seemed like equal time in commercials VS the actual programming. Thankfully it was a free trial but I never canceled something so fast.

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u/catboogers 27d ago

I'd say worst streaming app is Dropout, but it's still worth the subscription.

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u/Expensive-Day-3551 27d ago

It refuses to skip the intro on that show for me

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u/Kaldricus 27d ago

Yeah, that's weird. It skips less than half the intro it feels.

I wish it at least skipped past that terrible chomp sound effect

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u/Qualex14 27d ago

You should see the Amazon Music app.

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u/FatherAntithetical 27d ago

Not to mention it can’t even remember what episode you were on.

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u/Meteorcore71 27d ago

Have you used peacock?? Because I've had way more problems there than Paramount, so I was wondering.

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u/pornborn 27d ago

As a Walmart employee, I got it for free and still uninstalled it. And I have 1 Gig fiber. Total garbage.

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u/pentaquine 27d ago

I never got it to work on a browser. 

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u/Nomad_86 24d ago

I find that it’s easier to get it through Prime, to avoid using the shitty app altogether. Lol

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u/Strict_Jeweler8234 27d ago

I usually find that when people complain about how bad an app is, it's a little hyperbolic.

Paramount+ might genuinely be the worst streaming app I've ever used. It's so dogshit. It's slow, unresponsive, skips over what you're trying to get to. Literally used it just for Dexter Original Sin and it was a nightmare.

Somewhat relatable

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u/StrLord_Who 26d ago

I always see everybody saying this but I've never had an issue. It doesn't glitch,  it works fine on both my phone and my tv, it doesn't change settings.  I've honestly never once had a problem. 

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u/Kaldricus 26d ago

I'm very envious of you. In the same vein, I always see people complain about how terrible dealing with Comcast/Xfinity is. I've genuinely never had an issue. Any problems I have were fixed quickly, never had any billing issues, etc. Some people just get lucky

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u/hardcorehoochiekoo 28d ago

I rage cancelled one day when trying to watch soccer and it never booted up the stream just stayed on the “starting soon” when it was like 30 minutes in already. Trash app.

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u/cubanesis 28d ago

Well, I’m glad to know it’s not just me. I thought my smart TV just sucked.

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u/Awkward_Pangolin3254 27d ago

It could be both. Most smart TVs are trash in the hardware department. They all cheap out on storage space, FFS, when solid state storage is cheap AF now. I had to stick a thumb drive in my Samsung's USB port just to have enough space to install HBO Max. They only give you 1GB (!) and then install 10 unremovable apps that I have never once even run and never will. I am this close 🤏 to buying yet another Fire Stick (I have 2 older "dumb" TVs that still work fine) because the OS in this Samsung sucks so hard. I swear when it dies I'm never buying another Samsung device as long as I live. Their phones suck, their TVs' software sucks, their appliances suck.

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u/sadcheeseballs 28d ago

Hah same happened to me

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u/ShermanatorYT 28d ago

Ha this happened with the Canadian soccer team game, literally cancelled my account, haven't been back since

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u/FTB4227 27d ago

Same. I only have it to watch the Champions League and it would not even let me do that consistently. The second time I had to pirate a damn stream to watch my match I cancelled that shit.

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u/dister21 27d ago

My favorite is when at the 60th min of the stream it would 'auto play the next episode' with a 3 second count down and switch to a completely different game before I was fast enough to grab the remote to stop it.

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u/ruffus4life 28d ago

i thought early peacock app was bad. modern day paramount app makes it look like gold in comparison.

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u/Vaticancameos221 27d ago

Paramount makes Peacock look like Netflix

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u/VanceRefridgeTech04 27d ago

Paramount makes Peacock look like Netflix

100%

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u/NCSUGrad2012 28d ago

All of what you said and it never remembers the settings. I have to turn captains on every single time I open the app. Pure garbage

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u/fett3elke 28d ago

You mean engage the captain

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u/Vyzantinist 27d ago

Make it so.

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u/shlog 28d ago

aye aye, captain!

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u/Over_Camera_8623 27d ago

Captions have now entirely disappeared for me lol. 

The shittiness of this app is incomprehensible. 

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u/NCSUGrad2012 27d ago

Have you tried turning them on again after the show is started? That's what did it for me, terrible design, lol

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u/Over_Camera_8623 27d ago

Oh I mean the UI element that let me choose subtitles is now just gone. I cannot select subtitles anymore. 

Also rewind and fast forward crash the app again after having worked for a little but. 

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u/NCSUGrad2012 27d ago

Wow, that's worse than mine. That sucks. Maybe try removing it and installing again?

What a garbage app, lol

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u/Over_Camera_8623 27d ago

Not worth the effort tbh. Just glad to find my peoples who will commiserate with me over how shit this app is. This thread is life. 

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u/WaffleStompinDay 27d ago

Captain's getting older. How long are you expecting him to keep it up?

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u/RepliesOnlyToIdiots 28d ago

No. AMC+ is far, far worse than Paramount+.

And then you get into the more unusual ones.

There’s a reason why the lesser tier are also available on others’ apps like Prime and AppleTV+, where they’re no longer responsible for the technical side.

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u/Slipguard 27d ago

I think Starz is the worst

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u/brycedriesenga 27d ago

I just watch it through Prime which works well for me

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u/Silent-G 28d ago

It works flawlessly on our Roku devices. I've only had issues using it on Google TV devices.

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u/SoMuchMoreEagle 28d ago

It must have been developed for Roku, because we've had the same experience.

It's awful on our tablets, though. Stutters and freezes constantly.

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u/Silent-G 28d ago

So I just looked it up and Roku uses their own proprietary OS on their devices. I'm guessing the devs mostly tested on that and didn't consider Android or iOS a priority.

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u/SoMuchMoreEagle 28d ago

Interesting. I guess that's why Roku tends to have decent apps that basically never crash or glitch and are pretty easy to use.

Too bad they can't get some of the services to organize their content better. That's my main gripe.

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u/idryss_m 28d ago

s the single worst app I’ve ever tried to use across Any platform period.

I see your paramount app and raise you a Binge, or even Stan app...... I can't even bring myself to use them from free b3cause they are so user hostile

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u/nof 28d ago

I just use the service subscription inside the Amazon Prime app. It's just an integrated "channel" at that point. Maybe that is similar to how most people subscribe so there isn't motivation to fix the app? Which, IIRC, was one of the reasons I unsubscribed for a while years and years ago.

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u/Professional-Pipe-44 27d ago

You clearly haven’t tried to use the AMC app lol. So bad they sent emails to people apologizing for all the issues

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u/Express-Highlight630 27d ago

It’s almost like people realized when they’re not forced to get the subscription to watch a singular NFL game, it’s total shit the other 364. Fuck these streaming shits I’m going back to cable.

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u/hitemlow 27d ago

slowest loading fucking thing ever.

Worse than the Subway app?

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u/bosceltics23 27d ago

Can’t be worse than Sonic’s app. They made an update where no one on iOS could use it and it went like 3/4 of the year in 2023, I think without a functioning login where no one could login. Before they had one of the best mobile apps, then it became just the mobile browser in the form of an app that couldn’t recognize a sign in and required constant sign ins to purchase anything, but wouldn’t actually sign anyone in. Since no one could sign in, you couldn’t buy. Since you couldn’t buy, you go somewhere else and delete the app. You’d think they’d fix that mistake after the thousands of 1 star reviews, complaints, etc? Nope, went several updates and still didn’t fix it. It now lets you login but will log you off almost every time and occasionally will glitch, log you off 90 times and then lock your account due to bot behavior and then won’t send any unlock emails. Can only be serviced through the app. They also removed half price from the app.

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u/Ut_Prosim 27d ago

Same. Without a doubt the worst app I've ever used, and even worse on the Xbox (my primary streamer). I used to cast my laptop to my TV because the Xbox version was non-functional.

When Trek was on Netflix, I'd randomly watch episodes of TNG or DS9 or sometimes just pull up scenes I like, then watch the rest of the episode. It's just not worth the effort of fighting the interface on P+.

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u/Brave-Banana-6399 27d ago

I first got an iPhone back in 09 waiting for shit to load.

Oh shit, just like my pixel 8 and my pixel 9

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u/rhymes_with_candy 27d ago

I signed up to watch Picard when it first started. Their PS4 app would play an episode of Under The Dome instead of whatever show I actually tried to play. Apparently it was a known problem but none of the solutions they gave me or app updates fixed it.

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u/hobbobnobgoblin 27d ago

Wtf happened to buffering in the internet world? Every show i watch has to lead every 5 minutes and just can't pause it to load the whole show. Absolutely garbage.

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u/AlexandersWonder 27d ago

I couldn’t get mine to work with Firefox but it works fine with chrome. I bet it varies by device, browser, app, etc. whole thing feels haphazardly tossed together

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u/Slipguard 27d ago

Starz is worse

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u/Waterknight94 27d ago

I tried using the paramount app for a while. I ended up subscribing through Amazon instead. I know a lot of people don't particularly like Amazon either, but it is sooo much better than paramount.

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u/sdnaldab 27d ago

Guessing you haven’t tried MGM+?

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u/johyongil 27d ago

You want to know how I knew it was all kinds of bad? It’s when they were using Halo to promote the app. I knew right then and there, it was less than dog water and it was merely a cash grab. Well forget it. My life has never suffered because I couldn’t watch a show or movie.

Even better is that I can always just buy the movie or show that is otherwise locked behind Paramount+ anyway either on Blu-ray or iTunes (often the Blu-ray will have a code for a free iTunes download as well).

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u/johnnycoxxx 27d ago

Yeah I don’t pay for most of my streaming apps. My family and I all trade passwords

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u/TSVDL 27d ago

Have you tried Bandcamp? Lol

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u/maltliqueur 27d ago

Have you ever tried AMC+? 😭

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u/turdfergusonRI 27d ago

I agree, 100%, but Max is driving me bonkers with their search feature. It’s just worse and worse each time I go back to it.

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u/No-Appearance1145 27d ago

I remember trying to play the thundermans because of my niece and it would crash every three episodes without fail. We dropped them as a streaming service after that.

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u/Qyro 27d ago

I haven’t had any complaints with the Paramount app to be honest. My biggest issue with Paramount is that a lot of their “content” just isn’t that good.

The single worst app I’ve ever tried to use across any platform would be the AppleTV app. It’s the only one that just wouldn’t load things properly. We’d be sat there watching a half pixelated image, on standard definition. It was horrendous. So bad in fact that I cancelled my subscription and resubscribed through Amazon. You know it’s bad when you choose to use the Prime Video app instead.

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u/Terrible_Use7872 26d ago

On my Roku TV Peacock is worse, trying to load previews for everything.

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u/OldSkooler1212 26d ago

I’ve been using it every day for months. I watch one episode a day of Star Trek: Voyager while on the treadmill. It works great if you start an episode of a show and watch it through till the end. If you’re actively trying to fast forward or back up in a show it’s awful. The only issues I’ve had with it are about once per season in Voyager the sound will drop out of an episode near the end or get really low. I watch with the subtitles on so it’s not a huge deal but it’s annoying.

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u/Percybutnoannabeth69 21d ago

Clearly you've never used Jiostar