r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • 1d ago
Media New Images from 'Zootopia 2'
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u/mrEnigma86 1d ago
The original was a surprisingly good film
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u/PayneTrain181999 1d ago
The DMV full of sloths never fails to make me laugh.
Funny for the kids and relatable for adults who have had to wait in one for hours.
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u/TheScienceNamesArgon 1d ago
I was in a Film as Art class in college back in the day and someone gave a great presentation on this movie. I don't remember much of the presentation but they made the point that the DMV is the perfect "family movie" joke. It doesn't water down crude humor, and it isn't some lol-fart joke. It was humor that is funny to everyone but resonates differently depending on age. Nobody needs to ask "why is that funny?" Which is exactly what you said, but it reminded me of that day!
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u/Username_Used 15h ago
Back in the day? That movie came out less than 10 years ago.
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u/LaconicLacedaemonian 10h ago
When i was a kid (born 1990), movies from the 70s were old. That means any movie from 2010 and earlier are old.
This pains me.
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u/HighOverlordXenu 1d ago
I swear, our local DMVs have adopted sloths as their unofficial mascots. Every one of them has plushy sloths behind the counter.
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u/carlygeorgejepson 1d ago
I don't know. Maybe I'm just lucky or the DMVs I have used are special, but I have never been in a DMV longer than an hour. And that was when I had to take my driver's test. And it took maybe an hour. But whenever I'm getting my new tag sticker or updating my license? 15 minutes tops. Even with a line! It's still 15 minutes.
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u/FeedMeACat 23h ago
It is an old joke now partly for this reason. It is one of the main things I brink up as push back when people talk about Gov inefficiency or 'government bad' type points.
The DMV used to be slow. Now it isn't anymore. Because a government ran by the people can be changed to work better.
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u/zoidy37 1d ago
A solid classic. Love all these hardboiled detective references. Same way Rango was built on the DNA of classic westerns
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u/NottheArkhamKnight 1d ago edited 22h ago
I nearly fell out of my chair in the theater at the Breaking Bad references.
"Alright, Woolter and Jesse are back..."
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u/MommyLovesPot8toes 1d ago
It is firmly in my Top 5 favorite movies of all time.
Though, I absolutely love parodies, and particularly police parodies, so this was a slam dunk for me.
The Chip and Dale movie from last year is somewhere in my top 10 for the same reason. If you haven't seen it, it is 100% worth the watch and nothing like you think it will be.
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u/HeroKlungo 1d ago
It came out in 2022, not 2024.
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u/Hellguin 1d ago edited 1d ago
I remember seeing vague info about it back in 2013, forgot about it till it came out, I absolutely adore the movie.
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u/VERGExILL 1d ago
I have a two year old so I’m a bit of a connoisseur of animated movies at the moment. It’s definitely a fantastic movie compared to a lot of stuff that has been made since then!
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u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor 1d ago
The movie follows Nick and Judy going to partners therapy with Dr. Fuzzby (Quinta Brunson) as their therapist.
Ke Huy Quan voices Gary De'Snake in the top image.
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u/Harkoncito 1d ago
The movie follows Nick and Judy going to partners therapy
Why? did they have an unplanned pregnancy or something like that?
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u/Big-Ambitions-8258 1d ago
The zootopia abortion fancomic haunts me
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u/NZSheeps 1d ago
It haunts everyone who has read it.
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u/PopeGoomy 1d ago
Wait I haven't read it, anybody got a link?
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u/TheMusicalTrollLord 1d ago
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u/PopeGoomy 1d ago
Thanks I will check back in after I read it.
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u/Wbran 1d ago
Reading the epilogue first was VERY funny.
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u/Spiritual-Smoke-4605 18h ago
LOL that's where I started and OMG, love the no-context, just, what a way to start this story
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u/Seihai-kun 1d ago
I thought the whole part 1 is wild with the abortion plotline, then the lesbian part on part 2 makes me laugh out loud in my office lmao, i’m sure it can’t be topped
Then the fucking JFK happened in part 3 holy shit, i want whatever the author is smoking lmao
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u/pvtcannonfodder 20h ago
Also there is another well known parody of the comic your reading about Arby’s
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u/SigmaKnight 1d ago edited 1d ago
She’s a by the book sergeant. He’s a loose cannon corporal. Together, they’re cleaning up the streets of Zootopia.
not actual info on movie
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u/trollingjabronidrive 1d ago
The movie follows Nick and Judy going to partners therapy
They're really baiting the WildeHopps shippers, aren't they?
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u/F00dbAby 1d ago
I’m hoping they actually go through with it by the end of this movie
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u/Exploding_Antelope 1d ago
It’s all but what the first movie itself says
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u/IndecisiveMate 1d ago
Woah!
That's got some romantic subtext.
Is my Nick x Judy ship finally sailing?
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u/Curiouso_Giorgio 1d ago
I'm glad Ke Huy Quan is getting so much work these days, but I kind of wish they'd have cast Jim Cummings in the style of Sterling Holloway's Kaa as Gary.
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u/Rejestered 21h ago
Way too on the nose
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u/Curiouso_Giorgio 19h ago
I really liked how they used some aspects of Jungle Book in Robin Hood.
Sir Hiss did the same hypnosis as Kaa, Little John was a brown, claw-less version of Baloo.
I wish they'd keep doing that.
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u/TehDarga 1d ago edited 1d ago
I expect someone to encounter a ‘dead body’ only to reveal it’s just a snake’s or lizard’s shedded skin.
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u/Loaf235 1d ago edited 1d ago
oh hey they finally introduced reptiles. Is it going to be about integration/immigration since the last movie had none of them present?
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u/human1023 1d ago edited 1d ago
The first movie taught* us not to judge and discriminate different people based on race/ethnicity. Although it's strange to use animals, because some animals are more ferocious, the lesson still I think was clear.
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u/thegimboid 1d ago edited 1d ago
Although most people see it as a metaphor for racial discrimination, I actually saw it more as one about gender discrimination.
The smaller and traditionally physically weaker group taking on more prominent roles previously held by the stronger and more traditionally aggressive group (Women entering the workplace and dealing with sexism).
And members of the traditionally aggressive group being told repeatedly that they can never change from their base roots, with some even having species-based stereotypes that push them further (men being told that all men are rapists, with foxes representing the added negative stereotypes that black males have when compared to other men).
Basically a feminist message that also warns about the dangers of going too far with an ideology, to the point that it becomes about hurting others rather than raising people up.
Of course, this is all just my viewpoint - the nice thing about a metaphor in a film like this is that it can represent many different things to different people.
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u/we_are_sex_bobomb 1d ago
I think what’s great about it as an allegory is that it can apply to all sorts of different forms of discrimination, it doesn’t necessarily have to map on to any single one at the expense of another.
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u/Silent-Selection8161 1d ago
This what makes using animals smart, you can view it as a metaphor for whatever, just some discrimination in general, it maps to a lot without people bringing their own preconceptions into it.
One of my favorite Disney animated movies, hope the sequel isn't just "make us more money" bait.
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u/BlackOctoberFox 23h ago
Using anthropomorphised animals makes for really good storytelling. You can immediately get a lot of information about each character based on what species they are, both drawing from the cultural significance, idioms, tropes and symbology of that species, and applications of behaviours of the real-world animals.
As an example: Mayor Lionheart and Dawn Bellweather.
Lions are seen as majestic, powerful animals. Big manes, large bodies, loud roars. Often used to symbolise pride and power and ascribed to a sense of regality. The term "Lionheart" means a person of exceptional courage and bravery. Lions were even given the moniker of the King of the Animals.
It is no wonder then that he is the leader of Zootopia.
However, in reality, male lions are pretty lazy. It is the females of the species that do the "lion's share" of the work like hunting and rearing young. The male's job is to protect the Pride. As a politician, Mayor Lionheart is much more concerned about looking good to the public but leaves the actual work involved in making his big promises come true to other people.
Which brings us to Dawn Bellweather. A sheep. A herd animal. Calling someone a sheep is to imply they blindly follow leaders with no real purpose or direction of their own. Dawn is a sacrificial pawn and assistant mayor who does whatever the mayor wants despite how badly he mistreats her.
And, of course, the true villain in the first film. The Wolf in Sheep's clothing trope. A predator in the guise of prey.
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u/Dagordae 1d ago
Any time an anti prejudice message comes with different species there’s a big ol hole in the message. Hard to go ‘We are all equal’ when they very clearly aren’t and never can be.
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u/PlaneswalkerHuxley 1d ago
That's the point. The carnivores look dangerous at first glance - because you, the person looking, has internal discrimination carried from our world. But they're not.
They're sentient. They're as civilized and self controlled as any of the other animals. "Going Feral" is a lie, it never happens naturally, only under exposure to a chemical weapon. And all species are susceptible to Night Howler.
In a society with cars and knives and tasers and guns, fearing others for danger based on claws and teeth is stupid. The most dangerous animals don't need any of that.
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u/Dagordae 1d ago
So, do you remember that part where the town of assorted rodents had a kaiju situation going on because of a police chase? People almost died because a rabbit was chasing a weasel.
Imagine their lives.
They're not equal, they have to live their lives constantly on guard that the assorted larger animals don't casually crush them. Not because all the big animals hate them but because they are so small that just being near the larger citizens puts them in danger of someone stumbling or simply not looking where they are going. They have to be segregated from the rest of the population, not because of any malicious intent but because they are inherently unable to coexist without serious risk of personal harm.
How many sapient mice do you think have lost their lives because someone larger simply was distracted and only realized that a person was there when there was a crunch? How many have gone missing because it turns out it's really easy to hide a body that small and murderers like to prey on the weak?
And that's before we address the instinct issue. The howl scene? Shows that these animals not only still have wild instincts but said instincts can and do take over despite their best efforts. Silly when it's just dogs and wolves making noise. Not so silly when you think about all the other instincts any given predator has. And most the prey. With humans? A surprised smack or punch is a joke. When it's a rhino that some rabbit surprised? Not so funny.
As I said: The message doesn't work so well when the differences aren't a matter of aesthetics. Humans, of all ethnicities, are fundamentally the same. The animal kingdom? Not so much. The physical differences aren't some minor aside, it massively changes everything.
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u/time_lordy_lord 1d ago
What are the carnivores eating?
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u/PlaneswalkerHuxley 1d ago
Something non-sentient. I'd guess fish, or maybe lab-grown hamburgers, or hell why not unicorn farts.
It doesn't matter. The point is that they're not eating or attacking other sentients. Those who tell you they're more dangerous than the sheep are lying. The real predators are the ones who stoke your fears, exploit your prejudice, and use it to justify their own power.
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u/helpmeredditimbored 1d ago
Fish. There's fish markets in the background of TundraTown. Also, while not seen in the movie, the concept art of the film showed bugs were also a source of protein, things like bug burgers being a thing
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u/c_Lassy 1d ago
Why do people nitpick kids movies that try to tell important life lessons and push a positive message? Like genuinely what do you gain from it lmao
Wasn’t even a bad movie too
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u/FireZord25 1d ago
Well it's a kids film. Complex stuff like those take extra runtime and oftentimes covering of too much real life politics, something that also clearly goes well, if reception if not writing /s.
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u/GameOfLife24 1d ago
They made the sequel when they realized the messaging didn’t work on Americans
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u/MyStationIsAbandoned 1d ago
This reminds me of the one time they had duck people in Arthur. Made me realize everyone on the show was a mammal.
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u/4amWater 1d ago
Reptiles and then fish? What do the predator animals eat?
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u/CloakedNoir 1d ago edited 1d ago
When the first movie came out the director stated that they eat fish, and fish aren't sapient in this world. I'll see if I can find it.
Edit: It was Byron Howard and he confirmed this over Twitter, but nuked his account two years ago so I can't provide the source.
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u/farceur318 1d ago
The sign behind Nick mentions “fish cleaning stations” so it looks like like that’s still canon and may get touched on the movie.
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u/helpmeredditimbored 1d ago
Fish (there's a fish market seen in tundratown) and while it wasn't seen on screen, the creators also said that they eat bugs
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u/ImTheOriginalSam 1d ago
Yeah this is really weird. I just assumed only mammals were sapient in this universe, but apparently the world is just WAY more segregated than we even thought
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u/Arthur__617 1d ago
will they touch on the abortion?
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u/subatomicdelirium 1d ago
Context?
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u/Dovahpriest 1d ago
An infamous fan drawn webcomic depicted Judy aborting her and Nick’s child and him confronting her about it.
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u/Bitter_Internal9009 1d ago
It’s also really well drawn and gets sadder over time
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u/SurfiNinja101 1d ago
Until it became a retread of the JFK assassination
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u/Kriznick 1d ago
Jesus fucking Christ.... I thought I had forgotten that travesty
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u/GaffaCharge 17h ago
It's become the first thing I think of whenever this movie comes up.
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u/DeathLikeAHammer 1d ago
Without seeing anything I feel like Dr Fuzzby is a nefarious character. Always smiling. Who would expect that.
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u/Antoshi 1d ago
The small, unassuming sheep woman turned out to be the villain in the first film, so I can see why you'd think that.
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u/Amaruq93 1d ago
That and I could see Quinta wanting to play against type and be a manical laughing Disney villain
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u/mountainstosea 1d ago
Woah, I forgot Jenny Slate was in that. You just reminded me that the sheep woman, Marcel the Shell, and the laundromat customer in ‘Everything, Everywhere, All at Once’ are all the same actor.
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u/Solomon_Gunn 21h ago
Red Herrings are so overdone in the last decade. It's always obvious which doesn't make me feel clever, it makes the writing feel lazy
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u/shinyprairie 1d ago
Snake looks like it's from a completely different movie...
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u/Loneswordsman_ 1d ago edited 1d ago
It looks identical to the snake from bad guys. I thought it was a crossover tbh
Edit: okay, I just looked it up and it’s not as much as I thought. I gaslit myself with a fake memory I guess 🤦♀️ me dumb
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u/busche916 20h ago
The eyes look far more “zany” than the other characters. Like, yeah they are all anthropomorphic and all that, but the first film’s character models look generally in-line with how that actual animal appears in life (grading on a curve of course).
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u/shy247er 1d ago
The first one was fantastic, fingers crossed the second one is good too.
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u/Ace03_XII 1d ago edited 1d ago
I really hope so too, this is like the only Disney sequel thats was already announced that I'm looking forward to.
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u/shy247er 1d ago
Same here. I was excited for Cruella 2 too, but it seems like everyone involved have given up at this point.
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u/Seihai-kun 1d ago
Cruella is amazing, it’s fun, enjoyable, everyone’s acting are great, the plot is cliche on text and basically Devils Wears Prada, but watching it is fun and i was interested the whole time
Sadly everyone didn’t give it a chance, even reddit won’t shut up about “Who wants a cruella movie??”, same with Elementals
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u/FeedMeACat 23h ago
I just think at that point a lot of people were tired of retreading old ideas, ie remaking Wicked for every Disney villain.
Others, myself included, don't love Cruella because of sympathy or understanding her motivation, it is because she unapologetically revels in evil. In my mind the best origin is Cruella being raised right and having everything she ever needed or wanted in life. She just chooses evil.
I am sure the film is good though. Emma Stone is worth the price of admission.
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u/Meatballs5666 1d ago
Why is the snake naked
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u/alexjaness 1d ago
because a snake in trousers would be a little to on the nose.
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u/TheEgonaut 1d ago
Missed opportunity not calling it Twozopia.
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u/christianmel96 1d ago
Zootwopia
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u/Gloomy_Slide 1d ago
I wonder if there are people who may have pitched this, read this comment, and slam their fist on the table.
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u/peter095837 1d ago
Furries will go crazy with this one. I'm looking forward to this one!
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u/NZSheeps 1d ago
And Scalies, too
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u/Great_Gonzales_1231 1d ago
Hopefully the world famous tie-in comic is relevant to the plot
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u/WySLatestWit 1d ago
It already had my money. Pics and trailers will be cool, but I'm seeing this no matter what just because the first movie was so good that I'm more than happy to give it's sequel a chance.
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u/Drop_Release 1d ago
Agree! Also recently went to the Zootopia land in Shanghai Disneyland which was so damn good and immersive!! Very keen for this one
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u/Few-Improvement-5655 1d ago
Ok so... based on the rules of the last film... is that snake naked? Snaked, if you will...
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u/DodgeHickey 1d ago
For some reason the Sloth gag in the original pops into my head every now and then and I get a chuckle
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u/DerCatzefragger 1d ago
The snake is a mistake.
One big thing that Zootopia got right that so many other talking-animal movies get wrong was that they limited it only to mammals.
This eliminates the question of what the carnivores/predators eat. If the birds and fish and reptiles in your fictional world are also sentient, feeling members of society, then you have to wonder how any meat-eater survives without basically being a mass murderer.
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u/CruisinJo214 1d ago
Wasn’t the first movie based on the schism between carnivores and herbivores? Literally had meat eaters going feral as the villians plot…
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u/DerCatzefragger 1d ago
Yes. And the predators going savage and mauling the "prey" was a big problem. That's bad. You can't just run around killing antelope or koalas on account of the fact that you need to eat meat to live.
But if the birds and fish and mollusks and bugs in this universe are still "just animals," then you don't run into the problem of, well what do the predators eat, then? They eat the birds and fish and mollusks and bugs.
Sing came out about the same time as Zootopia, and even my 8 year old at the time asked me what the lions and dogs were supposed to eat, because in that movie even the damn squids and snails are singing and dancing their way across the stage. A dog has 2 choices: starve to death, or commit murder 3 times a day.
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u/farceur318 1d ago
The sign behind the fox references “fish cleaning stations” so I imagine the movie will touch on them eating fish.
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u/ObiOneKenobae 1d ago
They eat fish, bugs, and plant-based protein. The snake doesn't interfere with any of that.
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u/helpmeredditimbored 1d ago
They already established that fish aren’t sentient in this world. There’s fish markets in the 1st film and a clip of the 2nd film shows animals eating fish.
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u/Millennial_Man 1d ago
There’s some serious depth of field wonkiness going on in that top picture.
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u/saluraropicrusa 13h ago
i could be wrong but it looks like the characters were just slapped on a background. especially if you look at the snake's body to Judy's right. it doesn't look like it's properly resting on the ground (like the perspective is kinda off).
it's very "promo image" vs the bottom picture that's clearly a screengrab from the actual movie.
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u/CaptainKoreana 1d ago
Dang, they didn't take the direction of Borba's 'I will survive'?
(I know the I will survive and its sequels are controversial jbc)
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u/matteoarts 22h ago
There seemed to be a lot of effort and detail put into the first movie to ensure that species were mostly accurate and based on real-world analogue species to translate into an anthropomorphic world. Why is Gary here, like, 9 feet long and blue? What real world snake is he supposed to be?
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u/GeneralChillMen 1d ago
Will it be better or worse than the furry fan film zootopia 2 I reviewed on Reddit years ago?
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u/SaiyanAlpha243 1d ago
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if we got a trans Lizard character since Lizards in real life have Sex reversal
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u/Smurfy0730 1d ago
Shower thought - Is there a movie yet that has a hamster wanting to become a hamSTAR?
I'll just leave that here.
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u/bigtiddyhimbo 1d ago
A little disappointed they didn’t put pants on the snake. They’re just letting him slither around naked? Sounds like a public indecency charge