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News Laurence Fishburne Was Turned Down for 'The Matrix Resurrections'

https://www.indiewire.com/news/general-news/laurence-fishburne-matrix-resurrections-turned-down-1235113237/
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u/Silvermoon3467 2d ago

I mean, it's entirely possible that they wanted a different Morpheus for artistic reasons and it wasn't intended as a snub towards him.

Even if a lot of people consumed it as a dime-a-dozen action flick, The Matrix has always had a lot going on philosophically and artistically speaking. It's not really the same thing as, idk, Robert Downey Jr getting turned down and recast in an Ironman movie or something imo.

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u/Ordinaryundone 2d ago

This is what I think was the case. Say what you will about Ressurection but nothing about that movie's story or casting feels unintentional. They very much point out how they "brought back Morpheus" but he also isn't really Morpheus, hell they show pictures of Fishburne in the background while they do it. Apparently Hugo Weaving was approached to play Smith again, and he would have done it if not for schedule issues, so they weren't recasting for budget reasons or whatever, I think Ressurection Morpheus and Trilogy Morpheus are just meant to be different characters and the recast helps solidify that. 

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u/conquer69 2d ago

There is also precedent for recasting wise black characters with The Oracle. Gives it vibes of reincarnation.

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u/Beliriel 1d ago

There's also the theory that Lana Wachowski intentionally wanted to tank the franchise to death.

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u/Ok_Builder_4225 1d ago

Honestly the subtle as a brick scene where its clearly her saying, "I don't want to do this, but the studio was going to do it with or without me," made me enjoy the movie for what it was.

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u/Thanos_Stomps 22h ago

Which scene?

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u/Ok_Builder_4225 21h ago

I believe the context in the movie is when they're talking about making a sequel to the game, with or without Neo. Smith delivers it? Its been a while. I mostly remember how unsubtle it was lol

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u/conquer69 1d ago

For sure. Just saying that recasting Morpheus fits thematically.

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u/ExpressBanDriver 2d ago

Say what you will about Ressurection but nothing about that movie's story or casting feels unintentional.

Yes it was intentionally shit. No one cared about that movie

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u/dplans455 2d ago

The Matrix trio includes Laurence Fishburne. It would be akin to not only excluding Harrison Ford in The Force Awakens but also recasting the character entirely. This was part of the reason I didn't go see the movie in theaters. And given that the movie bombed, other people probably thought the same thing.

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u/Silvermoon3467 1d ago

The narrative has already explicitly established that he isn't even the first Morpheus just as Neo and Trinity aren't the first Neo and Trinity and Zion isn't the first Zion, plus they kind of killed his character off in a spin-off video game or something that they canonized for some reason

We can have a discussion about whether or not what they did with Morpheus worked for the story they were trying to tell, but that's a completely different discussion than whether or not they were intentionally snubbing Fishburne

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u/CptNonsense 1d ago

The narrative has already explicitly established that he isn't even the first Morpheus just as Neo and Trinity aren't the first Neo and Trinity

Meanwhile, Trinity and Neo are the same actors in Resurrections. And in every previous iteration, as seen in the previous movie

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u/Silvermoon3467 1d ago

Sure, but those two being the same characters is relevant to the plot, in the same way that Morpheus not being the same Morpheus is

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u/dplans455 1d ago

I read the article posted. It sounds like he was snubbed. It sounds like Lana Wachowski has some sort of problem with him. She's not the director for the 5th movie but she's an EP. If she has a problem with him he probably will be excluded from 5 as well.

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u/Silvermoon3467 1d ago

I also read it and didn't get that impression, idk what to tell you

"I wasn't invited to come back and when I reached out to ask if I could they didn't respond well" doesn't necessarily mean "they snubbed me for personal reasons"

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u/Inumayobaka 2d ago

Well, both the different Morpheus and Agent Smith sucked in Resurrections.

Neil Patrick Harris even more so. I was expecting more from someone who was supposed to emulate The Architect.

The music, which used to be awesome in all the predecessor movies, had nothing memorable in the fourth.

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u/RSquared 1d ago

Resurrections' Agent Smith is basically Barry from Archer.

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u/Ted_Cashew 1d ago

"Do I regret taking the red pill now, Barry? Yes I do, Other Barry, yes I do..."

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u/RSquared 1d ago

I genuinely would not have been surprised if he started talking to Other Smith, and it wouldn't even be out of character for him given Matrix 1-3.

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u/TitledSquire 1d ago

This makes no logical sense when they kept Neo and Trinity and some others, maybe it wasn't a snub but lets not pretend bullshit “artistic reasons” are why it happened.

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u/Comfortable_Court666 2d ago

Bad take tbh.

It then begs the question, why bring back keanu, carrie, and another version of morpheus? 

This is like going out of your way to way to bring Green Goblin back, but looking to avoid dafoe reprising his role

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u/Silvermoon3467 1d ago

Unless the Green Goblin in your new movie is explicitly not Norman Osborne, which you might want to do for various reasons that have nothing to do with whether you want DaFoe to come back for your movie

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u/schebobo180 1d ago

There was a lot of artistic intention with Resurrections, but the movie still turned out to be a steaming pile of shite.

Tbh the Wachowski's have to be top of the list for directors with the biggest declines in quality. They have been on a legendarily horrific run.

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u/mfranko88 1d ago

Yeah every aspect of The Matrix and its sequels feels extremely thoughtful. No decisions were made rashly.

(Thoughtful does not always mean good, though)

I'll always take a "thoughtfully made movie that came from an artistic vision" type of bad movie over a "corporate meddled to shit trying to up scores in a focus group" type of bad movie. Rebel Moon is a much more interesting movie than Rise of Skywalker, even though RM is a....just a garbage set of movies.

I'd take a hundred matrix sequels before watching Ant Man 3 again.