r/nextfuckinglevel • u/bendubberley_ • 1d ago

A police officer in Mexico prevents someone's suicide attempt, on a bridge, with no safety equipment.

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u/HillarysFloppyChode 1d ago

No they give him mental health treatment.

It’s Mexico, not fucking America.

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u/4CrowsFeast 1d ago

Mental health treatment is preventing the immediate danger you are to yourself. Therapy isn't going to just take suicidal tendencies in an instance. 

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u/myvoteshouldmatter 1d ago

Agreed, won’t be instant. But those tendencies can and do go away with mental health treatment, which can include any combination of talk therapy, meds from qualified professionals, and several other proven methods.

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u/HillarysFloppyChode 1d ago

This might be super unpopular, but I think if someone is at the point where they are going through the actions to kill themselves. Where their quality of life is so bad they can’t handle it.

They have a right to die.

But in a way that it won’t scar stone child or service worker

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u/Mecos_Bill 1d ago

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u/4CrowsFeast 1d ago

I'm not sure what your arguing against me with?

Let's say a person is on fire, your immediate concern is to put out the fire. Arguing against detaining someone into a properly maintained mental health facility with trained professionals until they are mental stable enough to go back into society, is like trying to treat someone for burns while still on fire.

You need to address the immediate danger. This IS the mental health treatment. Going to therapy once a week isn't going to help if he ends up on this ledge in a couple days.

People seem to have this negative connation with this scenario and think of it as a 'crazy house'. Its generally located at a hospital or adjacent building. You are given more frequent mental health treatment, from more doctors, who are more qualified and focused on the issues then general day-to-day counsellors.

I have no idea why someone would be opposed to this type of treatment, other than complete ignorance, and again, frankly I have no idea what point or stance you're trying to argue against with. I don't even think we disagree on anything.

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u/Brief-Translator1370 1d ago

False dilemma fallacy

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u/Leonidas1213 20h ago

Meds will though

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u/4CrowsFeast 20h ago

Nope. Most medication for these type of situations takes weeks to take effect. People starting meds for psychological disorders are actually more at risk in this adjustment period initial period than before or after. 

There is no such thing as an immediate solution. It needs to be accessed on a client by client basis to determine how to be approached, which is why they may be forced to stay until a plan is formulated. It also takes time to diagnos and determine and prescribe which meda are appropriate for the patient and often it takes sometimes a lengthy trial period of multiple meds to find which one works.

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u/Leonidas1213 20h ago

It really depends on the medication. There’s more than just SSRI’s out there

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u/Cabanarama_ 1d ago

I love to shit on america as much as the next american but nobody is getting arrested for being suicidal, thats fucking stupid

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u/NecroSoulMirror-89 1d ago

We shoot them here

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u/United-Trainer7931 15h ago

You can find plenty of videos of shit exactly like this happening in America

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u/NecroSoulMirror-89 13h ago

This is Reddit let me enjoy my karma 😤

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u/Semi-Disposable 1d ago

You should get out more. You want to look up what a 5150 is. And police will "take you into custody" and you will be held until released, then charged with resisting arrest. If you don't just get shot that is.

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u/MaritMonkey 22h ago edited 22h ago

will be held until released, then charged with resisting arrest. If you don't just get shot that is.

I worked night security in college and "Baker Acted" probably a dozen people over the years. None of them were shot and only one was possibly held the full 72 hours (he probably wasn't, but he dropped out of school). Most were seen and released within the first day (generally the next morning).

There were some minor vandalism charges involved due to the situations that led to me calling the police in the first place, but none of them involved jail time and "resisting arrest" is a completely separate charge.

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u/chaseoes 1d ago

Yes they are, they just call it a 72 hour psychiatric hold here instead. Regardless if it's called an 'arrest' or not, you're locked up for days against your will and not allowed to leave. It's essentially the same as being convicted of a crime and being sentenced to jail for 3 days.

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u/warmceramic 21h ago

Except they also charge you a lot of $$$ for it.

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u/Western-Bus-1305 20h ago

They’re not being prosecuted though. That’s a fairly reasonable measure to protect them from themself. I mean, why would you let them go free immediately after trying to kill themselves?

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u/chaseoes 14h ago

I feel it's more reasonable to provide them with mental health treatment than locking them in a jail cell.

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u/Western-Bus-1305 12h ago

They’re usually sent to an institution afterwards. They police just hold them until they can be sent somewhere

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u/MaritMonkey 22h ago

It's essentially the same as being convicted of a crime and being sentenced to jail for 3 days.

Except for the fact that it isn't a crime, which is at least a little bit relevant as far as your grown-up "permanent record" goes.

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u/United-Trainer7931 15h ago

What, do you think they should just immediately release suicidal people?

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u/supreme-manlet 1d ago

People can, and do, get involuntarily committed here when they are expressing intense suicidal ideation or intent to harm themselves lol

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u/Cabanarama_ 1d ago

Yea that’s not the same as being arrested and imprisoned and charged with a crime

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u/Extreme_Design6936 1d ago

Uhm actually USA likes to give people mental health treatment so much that they even take completely sane people and tell them they have mental health issues. Then lock them up against their will in a mental ward and charge the shit out of their health insurance.

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u/supreme-manlet 1d ago

Café to link a source of when this had happened?

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u/Mechanus_Incarnate 1d ago

there's the classic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment

although reading the page, it looks like the quality of data has come into question more recently

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u/RepresentativeNew132 1d ago

"If I lie to my doctor, they will believe me, gottem"

Also, that was 50 ago. And fuck all to do with the previous claim.

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u/RepresentativeNew132 1d ago

made that up

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u/Extreme_Design6936 1d ago

I was referencing this but there's these sorts of news articles going years back.

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u/RepresentativeNew132 1d ago

"according to a lawsuit" lmao okay. Do you even understand what those words mean?

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u/Extreme_Design6936 1d ago

🙄

Whatever. I could link you countless articles but I think your mind is already made up.

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u/RepresentativeNew132 1d ago

What you linked doesn't prove shit. Anybody can file a lawsuit for any reason, is that too hard to understand?

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u/Extreme_Design6936 1d ago

Am I trying to prove shit? I was referencing current events. I'm not sure you understand how the news works. Stuff gets reported on as it unfolds.

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u/NessaMagick 1d ago

Honestly in some places "mental health treatment" isn't too far off from being imprisoned. Mostly thinking of some of the horrible conditions people who get sectioned in the UK have to deal with.

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u/droda59 23h ago

Well it is part of America, it's just not the United States

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u/ShiftingMorality 1d ago

Technically Mexico is America as well. It’s very US centric to refer to the US as America when discussing other countries in the Americas. They consider themselves American too and they refer to ‘America’ as the US.

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u/United-Trainer7931 15h ago

There is not a single Mexican on earth that would refer to themselves as American

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u/Plenty_Tooth_9623 1d ago

Move to Mexico then if you think it’s better than the US

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u/FictionalContext 1d ago

It’s Mexico, not fucking America.

The cartels give him mental health treatment then?

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u/momgenes_ 1d ago

This is the most nitpicky typical redditor comment ever.

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u/aiheng1 1d ago

Me when I lose an argument and go straight to [deleted]

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u/Plonka48 1d ago

Maybe in the 1850s I’d agree with you but “America” (specifically non-plural form) has been synonymous with the USA for a long time and everybody here knows that

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u/screechypete 1d ago

Lord have mercy... did he actually try to use the "North/South America" argument here to shift the blame off of the United States?

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u/Plonka48 1d ago

He did

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u/screechypete 1d ago

You know you've got a solid argument when you have to pull that one out!

/s

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u/Straight-Ad4305 1d ago

🤓☝️

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u/Ketchup-Chips3 1d ago

Acshually!