Politics Doug Ford's answer to help people replace laot food from the ice storm: go to a food bank.
I just watched Doug Ford on tv doing a press conference about the ice storm. A reporter asked him what the government will do to help people impacted by the ice storm, things like help with money to replace lost food from fridges & freezers etc. his answer was basically to go to a food bank.
Just more proof that the workers in this province can't rely on this government to do shit for us. To everyone who voted him in, I hope your happy. Because I sure as hell am not.
Edit: Look, I get it, yes I'm making a claim through my insurance for the lost food and other property damage. I know that's why I have insurance. I know other people have had it harder this go around and in the past, and I know it's not governments "job" to bail me out when I have trouble.
But here is the thing that burns me. The money spent cancelling the beer store contract. The money spent building the spa. The money spent planning and building the 413. The money spent on election bribes. All the money spent on so many things that I think are pointless at best or downright bribery at worst. that money could have been spent on a severe weather fund to help people when there are extreme events like this. That money could have been spent on things like universal basic income so that people at the bottom have somewhere to start from and make life's bumps easier to cope with.
I'm just fed up with politicians who have not had to work a day in their life. I'm fed up with CEO's who have no concept of what it's like to work in their own company. I'm fed up with getting "raises" at work yet when adjusted for inflation being further behind than I was 15 years ago. I'm tired of getting my wife and I laid off and "right sized" out of jobs. I'm tired of being a couple paychecks away from homelessness. I'm tired of feeling like nobody cares. I'm just fucking tired.
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u/Constant_Put_5510 2d ago
I expected him to say, “That’s what the 200 bucks I gave you in February was for.” Foreshadowing.
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u/toiletpaperdonkey 2d ago
The 200 was just to get people to vote for him, why would he try to help other people
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u/Inevitable_View99 2d ago
this is what home and renters insurance is for....
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u/Zealousideal-Help594 1d ago
Home insurance deductibles are frequently $1000. Hardly worth claiming for the $1300 worth of food being thrown out only for your premium to go up.
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u/Inevitable_View99 1d ago
Right. So the government should be responsible for buying this person new hoisin sauce and frozen hotdogs ?
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u/Zealousideal-Help594 1d ago
Unsure where you believe you saw me post that particular statement.
My comment simply indicated that home insurance is likely not the answer for replacing lost fridge and freezer contents as it wouldn't be logical from a financial standpoint when the loss is likely similar to the deductible of most home insurance plans.
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u/FrmrPresJamesTaylor 1d ago
People can shop around for lower deductibles (obviously not after the fact) if this sort of thing is a priority, I don’t think it’s ideal at all but insurance is absolutely ‘the way’ to recoup costs after a weather event that causes significant damage.
Of course, it probably makes more sense to talk about why a fridge/freezer of groceries can cost a thousand dollars than it is to quibble about whether it’s reasonable to expect the government to replace them.
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u/MinuteLocksmith9689 2d ago
what exactly did you expect from conservatives??? They never liked to help people since they are against ‘handouts’?!
But, let’s elect them at federal level so that we are totally f-ukd…
All conservatives governments do NOT help people. never. They actually take pleasure in increasing the pain of working people by having cuts!
Anyone that lived through Harris era will know and Ford is doing the same!
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u/volb 2d ago
Maybe I’m insensitive (and just to preface this, I don’t like fuckface ford) but there are many parts of our province who lose power like this on the regular, or for even longer periods of time but no one bats an eye because they aren’t the GTA. It’s an unfortunate situation and sucks but this isn’t some like once in a life time calamity. A huge part of this province got a nasty snowstorm yesterday/the day before and no one batted an eye despite it closing hundreds if not thousands of KM of highway, knocking power out in multiple places, and causing many accidents on what’s considered the worst highway for winter travel in the province.
Would you expect these kind of hand outs for every single town or city in the province that goes through this on the regular that you’re just unaware about because they’re small and insignificant to you?
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u/curvilinear835 2d ago
What we're going thru is a once in a lifetime event. We've also had months of snow storms but they were a vacation compared to this. We've been without power for a week and it looks like it could be another week. Many of our roads are closed still and I've just spent 2 days clearing trees and branches from our farm lane. We've lost 100s of trees on the property, which is happening throughout the county. What we're living thru is like the Quebec ice storm. You obviously think it's a normal bad storm...it isn't. It's catastrophic so yeah, more assistance is required and should be given.
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u/Caldorian 2d ago
It's not a once in a life time though. It's not a regular/every year occurrence, but it's also not once every 50-100 years. Very similar to the storm we got around Christmas time 10ish years ago. Which is generally about how long we get between these types of ice storms: once every 10 years.
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u/curvilinear835 1d ago
Well,, our area did not have this much damage 10 yrs ago. Power was out for a few days. My 90 yr old Dad says this is the worst he's seen. Now, it depends on tbe area you're in right now and I'm in the epicentre.
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u/Milch_und_Paprika 1d ago
That one was brutal because it was so cold too. We didn’t have power for a week after that storm, but were lucky enough to have a functioning fireplace and camping gear for heat/cooking. However, many people had to temporarily relocate because homes were dangerously cold.
I definitely sympathize about the food though. The silver of it being so cold was that food kept outside. I don’t think they should necessarily make everyone whole, but I hope local foodbanks get emergency relief.
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u/fundamentll 2d ago
Serious question: what do you expect? The government to ship you groceries or money? Respectfully if I were in that situation it wouldn’t even cross my mind to expect the government to replace spoiled food.
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u/FloppyConkeyDock 2d ago
Home owners insurance covers food spoilage from power outages. Although they may consider the storm an Act of God so who knows.
It's not up to the government to replace people's groceries. Food banks are there for reasons like this among others.
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u/Nylanderthal88 2d ago
I'd like to fight "Act of God" in court cause there isn't a God. They'll have to prove God exists! Checkmate!
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u/drivingthelittles 2d ago
Food banks are a crutch that governments use to not invest in people. A well run economy with proper government support should not need food banks.
Regular people fund food banks while governments hand out 200$ bribe cheques.
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u/Remarkable_Video_265 2d ago
Fun fact: the first food bank in Canada didn't exist until 1981. 1981. 1981. The neoliberal heyday.
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u/mikehatesthis 1d ago
The neoliberal heyday.
I think the first food bank in Canada would be a reaction to the bad world wide economic conditions of the 1970s. Neoliberal didn't really start in Canada until three years later when Mulroney took over. Unless the Albertan Premier at the time was a neoliberal, that I have no idea lol.
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u/alcabazar 2d ago
Personally I don't think there's a perfect world where nobody needs a food bank, it will always be needed by somebody. However that doesn't mean the demand should be large and definitely not expanding, and it should probably be publicly funded.
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u/drivingthelittles 2d ago
Exactly.
A food bank is meant to be a stop gap measure when someone runs into trouble. When it’s being used as a person’s grocery store because there is no way for them to gain independence it’s time to reevaluate how our provincial government is budgeting our money. There is enough tax revenue to provide people the means to live a productive life but we keep hiring people like Ford.
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u/Inevitable_View99 2d ago edited 2d ago
This is what foodbanks are for though. Most home and renters insurance will cover spoilage due to prolonged storm related power outages
I'm sure it sucks to have to replace a bunch of food that went bad but I don't think its the tax payers responsibility to go restock your fridge with condiments because an ice storm knocked out the power for a week.
I'm all for the government helping people get their lives sorted out after a natural disaster, clearing trees and clean up from the storm but replacing your fridge items is a bit much, this is why you have insurance.
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u/CutSilver1983 2d ago
Exactly this right here. God. People are delusional. If you have insurnace coverage, inquire about if you qualify for coverage of spoiled food. It may take a bit to get your claim. In the meantime, if you can't afford another run of groceries at the moment, then go to the food bank. Sheisty people use food banks all the time, when they are not truly in need.
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u/Ok-Personality-6643 2d ago
Have you ever been to or consistently ever needed to use a Canadian food bank?
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u/CutSilver1983 2d ago
Thankfully, no. But I do donate. I am saying use the food bank if you need it. People shouldn't be asking the government to reimburse their spoiled food.
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u/Ok-Personality-6643 2d ago
Exactly. Telling people to ‘just go to a food bank because I donate’ is virtue signalling at best. The govt or municipality should provide a short term food program in major disasters where entire communities are knocked out, for a delivery of staple food items at minimum. Roblaws is delivering record profits… putting Mother Nature’s wrath back on people when governments are complicit is just wrong and very unCanadian.
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u/CutSilver1983 2d ago
Virtue signalling.... hmmm Yeah, I totally waste my time donating to causes because I want to appear to care about it. As well as post about it ( EYEROLL)
I always mention food banks to anyone having trouble as like I said before it is there for when people are having a rough time and there is nothing at all wrong with going to one. Community food bank, thats what they are.
And that is what homeowners insurnace is for.... most policies cover food spoilage.
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u/starving_carnivore 1d ago
Telling people to ‘just go to a food bank because I donate’ is virtue signalling at best.
No... it is materially contributing to a cause that they are asking people to use if they need it.
"Virtue signaling" has a definition, and giving food to the needy doesn't qualify.
"If you need food I'll feed you" is virtue signaling?
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u/Pristine-Rhubarb7294 2d ago
You can’t just go to a food bank. They are almost all geared to income and require you to prove your income or that you are receiving government support already. Doug Ford saying people should just go to the food bank and you believing that’s feasible shows how little people know about how they work.
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u/Global_Charge_4412 2d ago
ngl this isn't the government's problem to fix. he's right. go to a food bank if you can't afford to replace spoiled food. that's literally what it's there for.
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u/pineapples_are_evil 1d ago
I wonder if he realizes that the people who lost their food from outages, might make too much for the food banks.
Bet he has no clue how the food banks and community pantries are funded and if a small bank can even afford to have a generator or things that aren't shelf stable.
Plus the local Food banks will probably be over run this month, and depending on their generator situation, they may have to dispose of all their refrigerated and frozen foods too.
Sure they'll be dry goods and possibly perishables like breads, but anything refrigerated by rule might be disposed of of they lost power for more then a few hours
They might only be able to afford to run the generator for a few days or run it on the bare minimum which means stuff might still need to be tossed.
Vegetables could be OK if they've got cold storage like root cellar kind of storage, but the food banks are also going to be dealing with food that isn't at safe temperatures to release to others.
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u/MadgeIckle65 1d ago
Reminds me of his answer to a reporter as a T.O. Councillor about a group home for kids on the Spectrum. "I didn't know they would let the kids outside". Food banks are not for restocking freezers but then what does he know?
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u/HungryMudkips 2d ago
what else.......is he SUPPOSED to do? it isnt the governments job to refill fridges after a power outage.
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u/uptick774 2d ago
I was impacted by the ice storm. Still no power. I certainly don't expect anyone to feed me, nor compensate me. Fubd something else to whine about
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u/jvan666 2d ago
Ahh.. the good old “I’m fine so everybody else must be fine as well” argument.
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u/Inevitable_View99 2d ago
call your insurance company and see if you can file a claim, most providers have spoilage within home and renters insurance. The tax payer isnt going to foot the pill to replace your spoiled cheese and ketchup
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u/albatroopa 2d ago
I'm inclined to think that the people who are really put out by this don't have $500+ in food in their fridge to exceed the deductible.
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u/Remote_Mistake6291 2d ago
It is not the governments job to reimburse people for loses. Preparedness and insurance. If people do not take care of themselves it is totally on them.
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u/edtheheadache 2d ago
You just posted a great example of how empathy is lacking in society. Congratulations, I feel for ya.
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u/Remote_Mistake6291 2d ago
Empathy has nothing to do with it. It is not up to society to pay for your mistakes.
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u/Vallarfax_ 2d ago
I'm sorry man but this just misses. My taxes aren't meant to fill people's fridges cause the power went out. If you cant afford to replace it then yes, seek help from services.
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u/Purplebuzz 2d ago
I guess you assume they are also not paying taxes? What if they don’t want their taxes spent on what you want? I mean taxes are to help taxpayers no?
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u/Inevitable_View99 2d ago
if a tree fell on your car in a storm, would you blame Doug Ford for not paying to have it fixed, or would you call your insurance company to have it fixed?
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u/Vallarfax_ 2d ago
Ya, I was too irritated to respond to the comment lol you've summed it up pretty well. Having your food go bad in the fridge is not a disaster, and does not require relief from the government coffers.
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u/ontariolumberjack 2d ago
You know what? During the big ice storm of 98, we were without hydro for 3 weeks. 2 kids in diapers. Fun? No. Did we cope? Yes. Did we run around crying looking for handouts? No. Never even crossed our minds. A little inventiveness, a bit of that pioneer spirit, pride in our independence. Something to do with being Canadian. Stop expecting the government to bail you out of every inconvenience you run into in life.
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u/Ok_Recognition7726 2d ago
It was an ice storm. These things happen! Stop being soo entitled, that your problems have to become other peoples. Deal with it like adults and stop complaining.
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u/saveyboy 2d ago
Food banks are for whomever needs it. It may be a little tone deaf but it is a valid resource if you need it. Home/renter insurance is also an option.
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u/habbybutts 2d ago
Reminds me of the Tabuchi diet during the Harris government. Ask for a discount on dented cans.
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u/TheGrooveasaurus 2d ago
I grew up and lived on a farm just outside of Fergus/Belwood for most of my life. Our power went out fairly frequently in winter, and during heavy wind. And no, we didn't have a generator. Not once did it even cross our minds to ask the government to reimburse us for any food that spoiled. How fucking ridiculous is that?
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u/CommonEarly4706 2d ago
He clearly has no idea what families are going through with keeping food on the table. He clearly has never struggled for a meal in his life and I am not trying to mean that as a dig. Food banks are already in crisis. while I didn’t vote for him and never have, I am shocked the people of Ontario are this gullible to fall for this guys con for a third term.
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u/Inevitable_View99 2d ago
Food lost in a prolonged power outage is generally claimable on your home or renters insurance. OP doesn't need government assistance to replace is salad dressing and mustard. They need to call their insurance provider and file a claim....
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u/CommonEarly4706 2d ago
That doesn’t help in the current when people need immediate food in the fridge.
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u/Inevitable_View99 2d ago
Then go to the fucking food bank and file a claim with insurance...
The government isn't going to be able to send you cash faster then your insurance provider. Its probably a $300 claim, they can have that deposited in a few days. The government would take a week or two to send you that money in the mail.
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u/CommonEarly4706 2d ago
Did you even read anything I wrote. The food banks are already in crisis and under great strain. How do you expect them to accommodate the entire area? Let’s be real here. If home owners lost power dont you think grocery stores and food banks did too? I help deliver to a local food bank in my area. So I know the inner workings since I volunteer there.
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u/Inevitable_View99 2d ago
they aren't accommodating an entire area. Most people will be replacing the food themselves, smart people worried about the money will file insurance claims or go to a food bank, dumb people will post about it on reddit and blame Doug Ford for not replacing their spoiled pizza pockets and soy sauce
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u/CommonEarly4706 2d ago
food banks are supported locally and they give to certain area too. Doug ford is good pals with the Weston family. He could ask for help and some donations from some places to help out these residents.you seem to have zero idea what typical families are going through with record prices for everything
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u/Inevitable_View99 2d ago
I am one of those "typical" families and if I lost power for a week, id probably call my insurance company then go replace the items I needed.... Grocery stores often do step up to help local residence when a storm hits, I cant remember a time in history where the government used tax dollars to replace spoiled milk and chicken wings after someone's power was out for a week due to a storm.
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u/CommonEarly4706 2d ago
No one said anything about using tax dollars. I said he can ask for donations
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u/Goldhound807 2d ago
Do people in Tronoland really expect government handouts because the power went out and the food in their freezers spoiled? If people are this weak and unable to cope, humanity is in for some rough times lol.
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u/quelar 2d ago
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u/Goldhound807 2d ago
Everything East or South of Sudbury in Ontario is “Tronoland”.
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u/quelar 2d ago
No.
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u/Goldhound807 2d ago
Ask someone in the Northwest what they really think of you trono clowns lol!
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u/quelar 2d ago
Go ask someone from Windsor, Ottawa or Kingston if they consider themselves Toronto.
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u/Tricky_Damage5981 1d ago
Chatham here; no, we aren't Toronto .. been a long time since I have been anywhere near Toronto
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u/That_U_Scully 2d ago
Yeah, this is pretty on point for Ford. Amazes me how the people of this province keep voting him in and especially after the completely unnecessary vote we had this year. He is going to fully push us into 2 tiered private healthcare and education will be next. Just great. I pay my taxes to have those services in return, I don't want uneducated masses voting for rich people who only care about making them and their friends richer. Great work Ontario.
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u/Payday8881 1d ago
Haven’t people heard of NON PERISHABLE food (canned goods, pasta, rice, flour, dried beans, sugar, salt, room temp fruit and veg etc)?
Fridge food typically gets thrown out after a week, so no big loss there. (And that 1/2 open jar of mayo since last June in the very back needs to go!)
As for freezer, all contents could have been put into coolers and stored outside until power was restored (it was an ICE storm was it not?).
What if you live in an apartment? Well in that case you have a tiny fridge/freezer the contents of which can easily be stored on a a balcony. If not, only $100-200 lost max.
I fail to understand all of the pearl clutching going on here.
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u/WorkingBicycle1958 2d ago
Just spitballing here, but why not just put the food from your fridge and freezer outside?
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u/pineapples_are_evil 1d ago
Bc in some places yes, you had an ice storm, but by next day it's still 5 c or warmer outside... most fridges are set between 3-5 degrees. Sorry I can't come up with the institutions or restaurants temp at to of head. Any ways, it's no where near zero in most places, simply placing outside might keep things cold enough, but definitely not frozen.
that's the issue with big spring/summer storms. A cooler can help, but it'll only add a few days, maybe... it's too warm out to keep food reliably safely chilled.
It takes a lot of time and overtime hours by the hydro lineman to get everything up and running, even with calling in help from unaffected area, the tree clean up and lounge repairs can only be safely done so fast.
Trust me, those employees are running their butt's off possibly living in hotels doing overtime to get everyone up and running as quickly and safely as possible.
Sounds like my. Bro in law had been doing 12-16+ hour shifts up to 6 hours away all week. He's not been home since last Sunday I think.
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u/HowieDoIt86 2d ago
It’s depressing, but an overwhelming number of Ontario voted for him. Maybe once it affects them personally they’ll vote differently next time, but who knows, Ontario seems to love this idiot.
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u/Flanman1337 2d ago
Oh yeah the shitty Premier continues to be a shitty Premier. Good job Ontario!
It's not like the NDP had a policy promise about grocery rebates or anything like that.
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u/magoo2004 2d ago edited 2d ago
This is ALL on Drougie Ford 100%.
SIL lives just north of Orillia and power won't be restored until evening of April 6- 8 days later.
Realize and understand the fallout from Drougie's cutbacks...in 2019 he cut the Forest Firefighters Budget by $142.2 Million or 67% in. This marked the beginning of the end of our readiness for emergency services. Forest Firefighters are comprised of all types of personnel including treecutters. They were always called in after Storms would rip through areas and had the necessary equipment and skillset to safely and quickly clear the way for hydro crews to safely perform repairs.
Since this degradation of our emerg services it's near impossible to hire new crews as they don't want to be dependent on an employer that flip flops and the pay is dog$hit.
PPl up there have been thru previous ice storms and never had this long a wait for repairs.
Betcha his Muskoka Summer Mansion (where he'll be this w/e) is powered up. He'll be snowmobiling much like his BFF Trump who's golfing today.
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u/caitimusprime Oshawa 2d ago
It's in their name "Conservative". If it doesn't benefit them then they don't care.
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u/starfire92 2d ago
This is totally not democratic but when I was in college at Humber - one of my profs literally begged us to not vote for Rob Ford and that it would be a huge mistake. I can’t remember if she provided a grade incentive or not bc I don’t even know how she would verify it, and it’s obv wrong and probably illegal (which I think she acknowledged the illegal part of influencing us). But I will never forget that moment. I will never forget how passionate she was. Everyone thought she was a crazy lady. And I lived in the GTA not Toronto exactly so my knowledge on Rob as a barely 19 year old was pretty much zilch, but every year after I could help but feel her words.
I was so angry this last election cycle. Some of my “fuck Trudeau” friends have complained about the housing crisis and overpopulation with high immigration and those schmucks don’t even realize that Doug Ford paved the way for the college mill problem when funding was cut. Every institution is trying to make money, why would colleges run by suits be any different who are on the board of directors.
And let’s not talk about that bullshit spa.
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u/ilovetrouble66 2d ago
A lot of people in areas hit by the ice storm voted for him… you get what you get and you don’t get upset
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u/BaldingOldGuy 2d ago
As a long time volunteer at a local foodbank “Hell to the no” we are already underwater barely coping with the ever increasing need.