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Good. Democrats should boycott every single one of Trump's speeches to Congress. Why should they give respect to a President who wipes his ass with the Constitution?
That would be less of a spectacle than if the Democrats jeered Trump and the speech devolved into a screaming match. Remember, Trump will be the one with a microphone.
Nope. That feeds into the them vs us. Best thing is to go into communities with town halls and rally voters. MAGA has put itself in quite the pickle. They have the symbols of power but are losing the subjects they wanted to govern. Symbols of power are nothing without the belief of the people.
response speeches and counter events and showing up anywhere to get opposition in the media is better than anything that could happen at the state of the union.
They will just fill the seats with republican staff and stand and cheer with every word. Better to have all the dems show up in black like the nations funeral that it is.
Really, how long has he been in office ? Eugene continues to be the homeless capital of the nation and has been for 10+ years with the highest homeless population percentage in the country, at what point will our Politicians address and fix the underlying issues like mental health services and drug addiction ? They always talk a great game in election season then disappear once they have secured the votes. Oregon needs real CHANGE, especially Eugene and Portland, can add Salem as well but because it’s the Capital they do a better job of hiding it and moving them down to Eugene so our elected officials don’t have to see it daily
Yes, most career politicians are either in the Senate or Congress, Wyden always brags about trying to help Oregonians and focus on our communities when he has a microphone in front of him or any audience. Then if you respond you just end up getting on fundraising lists. I don’t understand how the 2 parties expect to do what’s best for the country when they always make it about stopping the other party. It is always about agendas of one side or the other when it should be about hashing it out and coming up with something that works for all of us.
No. he has not .He is owned by the insurance lobby's and did so little for Oregon during his years and years he was a ghost senator...point to anything he did for the state....now, since he has announced his retirement...he pretends to be a political force....what did he do the last 4 years when he had power?....protect the insurance companies
I dunno. I think getting all the Democrats to show up and then unfurl Ukrainian and/or various labor union flags / and/or resistance flags and walk out one by one as peacefully, yet disruptively and publicly as possible would be a better idea.
This is the way, show up in black pants, black t-shirt and walk out mid speech and hold your press conference on the steps of the capital. What’s the press going to do, cover the president or the protest?
There wouldn't be any war. Most conservatives would say "good riddance" and move on. If people in Texas voted to leave would progressive Oregonians want to bomb Texas? It makes no sense. If we realy believe in Democracy and the right to self governance (cough... Ukraine!) we would be totally fine with people leaving the failing US before the whole thing collapses.
I have to disagree, I think there would absolutely be a civil war if the west coast formed its own union and seceeded from the US. We ("Cascadia") have the shipping ports that are the entire gateway to Asia, plus the highest GDP in the US. Those are absolutely worth fighting for. Secession could cripple the US.
No, they wouldn’t, because CA especially is the 5th largest in the world and the largest in the states and pays hugely into supporting poor red states…they won’t just let them walk away.
Most conservatives might, until they start getting hungry.
The Administration can't afford to let us go. They can't afford that kind of direct challenge to their authority. They can't afford to lose the Bay Area tech companies. They also can't afford to lose California's produce farming and the west coast's import facilities. Most of the country's produce is grown in California.
Went to Maxine Dexters town hall yesterday. 1200 people showed up. Maxed out the building capacity and a few hundred were turned away. Show up to town halls people. Even only to pump numbers. Numbers is a means of measuring local sentiment.
I’m born and raised Oregonian but have lived and worked in DC for the majority of my adult life.
I miss Oregon.
It’s sooo much better than living out here.
I’d love to be able to stream this town hall. Any chance that’s happening?
Good. The entire Democratic Party should do the same. (They won't because there are too many cowards who still think they can play this like business as usual.)
Agreed. Why should the felon in the white house get any respect if he is incapable of giving any. I wish I could skip more meetings and speeches that feel like a waste of time, too.
What Jeffries and Schumer need to do is say they all are going to attend, have all their members meet prior to the speech in some location, and then announce that they aren't going. Don't even let their members know so word doesn't leak out.
Don't give the GOP time to get seat fillers.
Hakeem is a decorum guy, so that would've never flown. The only thing Schumer could manage is a hard side eye when Trump entered. They're both impotent and the wrong people for this moment in history.
Not showing up to it should be all the democrats plan. How pissy would the orange grifter be if half of the room was empty? I hope all the democrats have something better to do on Tuesday
There's nothing Trump could say or do to make me listen to his garbage for another 4 years. It's better to just tune him out and wait for the Dems to take back congress.
Wyden is a great senator but he's getting up there. I hope he has someone waiting in the wings to endorse if/when he retires.
In my personal opinion, a Facebook live is not it. He has already heard us, we dont need to talk it out anymore. Kotek, Wyden, Merley, and those coward republican politicians need to get in Trump's face. Go there and start throwing tomatoes at Trump, fight for us! Until I see politicians start showing up to Trump, and putting themselves at risk of being arrested on tv/media, I don't trust that they will fight for us.
What would be they likely fallout/results look like- what do you think would happen if all the Demz boycotted and didn't show up for the address ?
Has that ever happened, i wonder... *have not asked/done a search
Other than apoplectic fits and outrage screamed throughout the land, combined with the standard ketchup on the walls, what could they do ? In response... any legal requirement to attend, actually or is it a tradition and decorum, or respect of the history sort of obligation ? Because tradition and decorum were tossed into the doge dumpster fire awhile ago
At this point it might be a smart move. Trump's first speech to congress could turn into a red wedding and people wpuld claim it's for the greater good.
I'm divided on this. It will be a very painfully speech to watch but I think that it should be attended even if to catalog the lies and taunts and to understand in what manner this crass person utters these things.
I watch ALL the speeches because I won't be manipulated by the media. I want to know what was said and the context in which it was stated. If I don't hear it, then I don't talk about it. It just irritates me when people boycott things and then go on rants about what they boycotted. You can't have it both ways.
Not acceptable. He represents the entire state, not just the democrats. If it were a republican senator boycotting a democratic president many of you would be having a meltdown.
I’d be having a meltdown if a Democrat was destroying the country without any repercussions nor checks and balances. And I’d applaud any government official who boycotted a speech by said politician.
So each side should just boycott the other when they lose an election, and don’t get what they want? We all just say it’s the end of democracy and allow our elected representatives to stop participating? If everyone just takes their ball and goes home, it will be the end. Sometimes participating is difficult and unpleasant, but if you truly care, you push on and get through the tough times.
I think there is a small percentage on each side that claims the sky is falling when they lose an election. I don’t doubt they actually believe that. Some people just tend to assume the worst when faced with uncertainty in their lives. Social media just allows them to surround themselves with likeminded people, and they start fueling each other’s fears. They get stuck in an emotional cycle.
I live in Oregon & I am one of his constituents. As one of his constituents, I would like him to attend as this is a traditional annual address to a joint session of Congress. They have an interactive relationship: Congress writes the legislation & the President signs them.
I'd rather he not blow it off for his own petty foolish prima donna reasons. Interacting with his electorate can occur at anytime during the year outside of this 2 hour address.
Delusional Trumpers count razor thin majorities in the House & Senate, plus Trump winning (without even getting 50% of the vote) as an unshakeable Mandate. It's that level of nuttery that makes it impossible for them to understand the pushback that Emperor Trumpington is receiving.
That’s teamwork at its finest…..you can never expect both sides to work together if neither respects or supports the other. That’s the issue in our country.
Meeting fascists in the middle just makes us more fascist. Democrats being too similar to Republicans is why we don't have basic things like universal healthcare that the entire developed world enjoys.
You chose your "team" and you're sticking to it. I get it. I like some sports teams, too. But, this is THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, the country. Not a sports team.
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