r/oregon 1d ago

Article/News California to Negotiate Trade With Other Countries to Bypass Trump Tariffs

https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414
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u/ZedTheEvilTaco 1d ago

Presidents aren't constitutionally allowed to deport citizens, yet he we are.

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u/BurpelsonAFB 1d ago

Only if an ice agent thinks the individuals tattoos are scary. It’s in the constitution

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u/Rollinco63 1d ago

What citizens have been deported??

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u/ZedTheEvilTaco 1d ago

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u/PresidentTroyAikman 1d ago

Not a citizen, but still fucked up. Fuck Donald Trump.

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u/Rollinco63 1d ago

Nothing in that article classifies him as a citizen!!

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u/ZedTheEvilTaco 1d ago

You're right. My bad. "Legally protected person living in the United States granted sanctuary by the court."

Doesn't quite roll of the tongue as well though, does it.

Go lick a Nazi boot.

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u/Rollinco63 1d ago

More insults!! The tactic of the one with no valid argument!!

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u/ZedTheEvilTaco 1d ago

I never insulted you. I told you what to do. You seem set on doing it, so it was my way of saying "goodbye."

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u/youandican 1d ago

Wake up and smell the coffee. Guess you missed it because you had your head planted somewhere it should be.

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u/Rollinco63 1d ago

So, no evidence to prove the claim just insults?? Typical!!

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u/youandican 18h ago

Guess you are to lame to google it for yourself and find out.

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u/Rollinco63 18h ago

I didn’t make the claim that citizens have been deported so it isn’t mine to prove!! I also don’t need to google it because no citizens have been deported.

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u/youandican 18h ago

Easy to live in denial. Even easier to want someone else to prove that you have your head somewhere it should never be. Live in ignorance, it is bliss.

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u/Rollinco63 16h ago

Still nothing to show any citizens were deported!! Just typical liberal innuendo!!

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u/OldSnuffy 1d ago edited 1d ago

They were not "citizens"...they were not just worker bee types....they were illegal, gangbanging ,M13 type that were the worst of the worst lawbreakers .and in all cases convicted criminals...some with criminal records here . Oh. Look at the patriot act, He hasn't even scratched the surface of the power the congress has gave him. Be careful, you have no Idea the power it had given him,

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u/ZedTheEvilTaco 1d ago

They literally deported a protected individual with no gang ties at all, had not been convicted, and did not go to trial. He is in an El Salvadorian prison right now and is innocent. The Trump administration then admitted they did it on accident but can't bring him back because the courts have no jurisdiction in El Salvador. https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/judge-hearing-arguments-deportation-maryland-man-el-salvador/story%3fid=120491918

But hey, lick his boots harder. I'm sure it'll help you sleep at night when the economy dips hard enough that bread costs $10 due to the tariffs he enacted.

EDIT: Also, SOME with criminal record? Should people in prison be... Idk... CRIMINALS?

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u/OldSnuffy 1d ago edited 1d ago

If you knew me, you would know how foolish your statements are ,and be (hide your face) embarrassed. Regardless of their "protected " Status The man is not Protected by the basis of law....He came here Illegally ..He.broke,the.law. He was deported.Get in line.This is my wifes attitude,(a mexican by birth,came here legally 40 years ago) and mine.(Native Oregonian American)

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u/serpentjaguar 1d ago

They still ought to have some kind of due process. It's the American way. Besides, illegal immigration is a civil as opposed to criminal offense. Granted, they aren't entitled to the same protections as US citizens, but neither should they be treated as criminals.

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u/OGtrippwire 1d ago

Ah a pull the ladder type, they'll come for her too eventually. And hopefully sooner rather than later and saves someone else with a less idiot attitude. The Constitution protects everyone who resides here. Not citizens. Undocumented, criminal, legal, whatever, they're supposed to be under the constitution. But judging by your word vomit you're one of those that hates the constitution. Please move to Idaho.

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u/OldSnuffy 1d ago

Why? I am a native born Oregonian ,and my family has been here for 6 generations Mister ,and I dislike "newbies" making noises about my political opinions...when they haven't got a clue about them .I think the interpretation of who is covered by the constitution very much depends on whose court your sitting in...My wife is well known to the political system here and especially the judges and fears no racist asshats.

How about you stop trying to "californicate" oregon and understand there is a whole lot of people here who dont care for your brand of political BS. Its called live and let live ....but bottum line is be legal or be gone

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u/ZedTheEvilTaco 1d ago

Congratulations. He was given a protected status by.the.court. This means deporting him was.illegal. Trump.broke.the.law. Repeatedly.

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u/OldSnuffy 1d ago

If he was treated poorly by this administration, let him present his case in the appropriate court...and wish him good luck if he is treated the same way trump was

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u/ZedTheEvilTaco 1d ago

He literally can't present his case because he was deported without due process, another thing that is illegal. And now, because we have no jurisdiction over the prison he was sent to, we can't get him back.

It's like you aren't even listening.

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u/OldSnuffy 1d ago edited 1d ago

When you realize most of the countries voters and citizens support Trumps actions in this matter, you will learn a hard truth. Elections have consequences. I really understand how young you are when you speak those words...I said them when I was in my teens and twenties....but I am looking 70 in the face ,and have seen enough to know how foolish you are (and I was).Honestly I Don't Care about this guy...I care about open boarders where the lowest of the low flood in from countries where the law comes out Gunbarrel and they think we are easy Pickens. Look at Europe now.

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u/OldSnuffy 1d ago

Actually I stopped caring when He was Identified as a Illegal .I am now officially suffering from compassion fatigue. The world really is a nasty shithole, which most folks here in the USA don't have a clue about...unless they have "been there and done that". I am that terrible word "Isolationist" ...what we do by opening the floodgates (like Biden did )was to make sure the labor pool of those who live here is dilated with cheap help... it depresses the value of everyone's labor when you flood the country .I care about my grandson & granddaughter (for the record their name is Garcia) I honestly feel It would be better to raise the standard of living for americans than spending our time and treasure ( Read my tax money) on other countries whom hate our culture and would quite cheerfully destroy it in a heartbeat

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u/ZedTheEvilTaco 1d ago

You don't get it, do you? He wasn't illegal. He was granted the right to stay by the court. Can't get much more legal than that.

Btw, Biden was more strict on border crossing than any president in recent history. He literally has the highest number of arrests of people trying to get in illegally in the past 30+ years. That doesn't mean more people were trying during his time as president, that means more people were getting caught.

For the record, I don't give a fuck what yours or their names are or what your heritage is. It doesn't make you right. If anything, it makes your ignorance worse. Stop wearing it like it's a shield, cuz it doesn't help you.

And to raise the standard of living for Americans clearly means to arrest and deport anyone that argues with the great orange god, right? Or does it mean taxing the rich so that the economy can thrive again, allowing prices to go lower and enabling more people with less money to have more access to things like necessities and luxuries? Cuz one of those is Democratic policies while the other one is what the Republicans are up to.

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u/OldSnuffy 22h ago

Sorry I don't think you and I look at the same news streams....the open border policy the dems promoted is a real thing, and when those chicken's come home, and you see your kids w/0 work 'cause the crews doing sheet rock, or framing.. are all illegals ,and don't hire local boys. I know this ,I was a building inspector for a very long time. You think I like Trump? He is a boor. But I like his habit of hiring the best for the job ,and doing what's good for all AMERICANS.I give zero fucks outside THIS country's boarders Funny thing, the dems kept in place every trade policy he installed Yes, he's doing payback for the weaponization of the justice dept on him (So would I).He will probably crash and burn midway...But the trade policies and things he has put in motion have terrified Obama and will be very useful in restructuring the industrial base... here. For the record,I voted for Clinton, Obama. My wife hates Obama and it wasn't until I saw the effects of those policies that I understood him .(We you aware that ,through his father, He is one of the wealthiest people in the world? its hidden but true) I am sorry, but you are not looking below the Flash/Burn news feeds, and down to the policy decisions.

It seems to be a moot point ,as the rest of the world appears to be tired of the peace and prosperity the USA has paid for in blood and treasure(PAX AMERICANA)...and have scheduled ww3.The Biden corruption has set us up for ww3 by allowing the mullahs access to nuclear weapons tech, and the this will not be tolerated by a lot of people, starting with the Saudis. You best make friend's with some of those Redneck Idahoans' unless you have a well stocked bunker, Like Obama or Bernie,or the corrupt Clintons ,or the rest of the elites

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