A team of Stanford researchers had paired old mice with young mice, linking their circulatory systems, and within five weeks, the muscle and liver tissues of the old mice began to resemble those of the young mice
This. The dude is 80 but wouldn’t call himself old because of his pride. Dude gets an IV for whatever reason but says it’s from shaking hands to appear “strong”. It’s ok to get old dude, not everyone gets the chance.
Can’t change age, but he should change everything else about himself
Does it make you feel any better that he's not the one coming up with the lies (anymore)? He's just ad-libbing in between talking points they feed him.
My point: when the IVs can't prop him up anymore, you can expect JD to step in with a new presentation style covering the same substance.
Does it make you feel any better that he's not the one coming up with the lies (anymore)?
Not much... A literal villain would be nice at this point rather than systemic rot.
you can expect JD to step in with a new presentation style covering the same substance.
That fucking toad-bro will never carry the same force of personality as Trump. Like it or not, Trump is what he is due to decades of being in some form of spotlight. Always as an asshole, mind you. The main thing is, he's always had a bright spotlight on him.
Vance is an overcooked room temperature noodle by comparison.
Agreed. And that's the most upsetting fact around obvious MAGA strategy: they don't have another force of personality who can score within 5 points of the Rump, so they're pretty much forced to try to eliminate future fair and free elections.
Why would he get back hand ones and not get it focused literally anywhere else? I know he's old and it's a good idea to change sites to not fuck up venes, but to keep fronts I would do anything, hell, lay me a permanent line, but do it in a way it's invisible. Hell, use my legs and puncture there (even though that's really not good), just to keep it out of sight.
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I know that venous access gets horrible over time (I get needled quarter yearly only, but still, for a while I got IV antibiotics more frequently), but if you're trump and you need tons of IVs, get a port or smth, hide it, get some semi permanent IV that goes on the back of the leg, there are still possibilities that a rich dude like him could enforce. But who knows...
While I acknowledge your perspective, I must respectfully disagree. I believe you overlook a crucial aspect: the potential risks associated with inserting a Medi-port or PICC line. In the case of a regular citizen, such a decision is undoubtedly medical. However, for the sitting president, the consequences could be severe, potentially sepsis leading to his death. This raises the question of whether the risks outweigh the potential benefits.
To address this, his Doctor’s would propose a cautious approach. They would delay port access until the patient’s veins become compromised. Once that occurs, they can consider inserting a Medi-port or PICC line as a last resort.
Depends on how unhealthy you are. Donald is a giant walking sack of lard and cholesterol. I don't imagine his cardiovascular prognosis is too rosy these days.
Generally speaking though, not so much. When my grandpa was in his late 80's and beyond he was in and out of hospitals what seemed like weekly, though. Lots of IV bruises too.
So it's not impossible that he could get an IV infusion of something (blood thinners are almost ubiquitous at that age) once a month or so.
Fr, the guy has never said one truthful thing. I know politicians, well he's more of a businessman, either way, both aren't known for their honesty, especially politicians, but he has lied every single time.
Nurse here. I agree, this looks like an IV bruise, but I don’t see an IV site (although it’s not the best picture) and based on how his skin looks in that picture… you would see an insertion site.
My bet is on blood thinners. Guy is 80 and lives on a diet of McDonald’s and has outright said physical activity is bad for you. Medical science is doing some heavy lifting here to keep him from having a stroke or heart attack.
The almost 80 thing isn’t a convincing argument either way.
Almost 80 year olds tend to bruise at insignificant contact. They also tend to require IVs more frequently than younger people.
However, there is no reason not to believe that part of his hand would bruise from repeated hand-shaking. When my MIL was that age, she was basically a giant human bruise.
It’s not even really about how easy you bruise, an iv puts a hole into your veins. It’s gonna leak once the iv is taken out, causing the blood buildup. Only a bruise by technicality since it wasn’t a blunt force injury.
I've had them in the back of my hand when they couldn't find a vein easily at the elbow -- but I now ask them not to because I always bruise really badly when they do it in my hand :(
They’re more common when you’re in a hospital for an extended stay, or in this case, an older adult. It can be hard to find good veins on older people because of the remodeling that happens as we age.
This is why it’s so weird - this is a common issue for elderly patients. Simply saying that he received an IV shouldn’t be a big issue when we can all clearly see what it is..?
I have good veins and have had a lot of IVs. The hand is more common for me. Unless you get a blood draw. Phlembotimysts can only do the arm. Nurses and paramedics can poke just about anywhere they can find a vein. I have seen head, ankle, thumb, breast, etc. A central line or picc line has to be placed by a physician, though.
Phlebotomists are a bit different than IV insertion because they aren’t adding volume, so that have to use a place with higher flow. I’m sure they’re skilled enough to place an IV anywhere that’s needed, if they had to.
It's just funny to me how the white house has to make up reasons for bruising to not give out the idea that the president needs medical attention on a constant basis. I have an idea, how about we just elect a healthy middle aged individual.
The irony is that bruising that easily from shaking hands also shows that he’s a frail and elderly. Their explanation isn’t making it any better. Next he’ll have some fake hand gloves to hide his old man hands. He can’t stand to appear weak. He’s elderly and it’s going to continue to be hard for him to hide that.
My mom is 89, and she doesn't bruise like that unless she has an IV, which she did several years back. Her doc said her health is like that of a 60 year old. Unfortunately, her dementia is taking her mind.
I’m just curious, why would it be typical for an 80-year-old to have constant IVs?
I’m asking because I haven’t really had an opportunity to be privy to older folks’ medical treatments with the exception of my grandparents. One lived into her late 80s and the other into his late 90s, both in good health until nearly the end, and I don’t recall either of them having IVs even once.
I actually think the handshake claim is a huge red flag. Either 1) they're lying and it's from IVs (my $ is here) or 2) Mr domineering handshake is now so frail that normal handshakes bruise the entirety of the dorsal side of his hand...
I guess option 3 could be that he's still trying to be a douchebag with his handshakes and now he's getting it back.
There was a story about this in some newspaper or something over a month ago. A representative actually saying how he had to wear flesh colored bandages on his hand because of the vigorous handshaking causing bruising....I remember talking about it with my husband because it's pure bullshit. I've been a nurse for a bit and this was so crazy to me. Also had me wondering who the fuck was putting lines in him. Sure he's fat, but the hand? It's painful. Not really a place I'd go. You shouldn't go by sight. You go by feel. Then the speculation with my colleagues of what they were giving him.... cows blood, baby's blood, devil juice? Blood thinner doesn't make sense as you can get it orally or in a shot. Though I'd wager he was on one anyway. Nitroglycerin IV, BP meds. Idk. Still pills are available. He's never in short sleeves if I recall correctly, so AC seems best but that's probably shot to hell. Anyways I am anemic and bruise easily. Only once when my hand was clipped by a moving car did I ever get a bruise on the back of my hand. I second the bullshit on this crap.
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u/col3man17 Feb 25 '25
Everybody is different, some peopled bruise easily. However, dudes almost 80 right? I'd be more surprised if he didn't have IV's constantly going.