I’ve said it for some time, but the Americans cosplay as revolutionaries. It’s part of the mythos up until a point of convenience.
To go even further, the French revolution was very much the "people rising up"; Americans absolutely are not taught that their revolution was one privilege class rebelling against their peers for a greater slice of the profits.
Hell, Americans still think the first colonists were persecuted religious peasants, rather than the rich speculators and adventurers directly sanctioned by the Crown that they were,
Weren't quite a few of them religious fanatics that left to found a new colony specifically so they could persecute people that didn't follow their very strict version of Protestantism?
Which is why, today in the US, you can kill as many people as you want in your movie and be family friendly, but show a woman's bare nipple and your movie will be buried under adult ratings. The remnants of that cult infect modern society.
Idk man, all I know is that my ancestor did something perverted they weren't supposed to with a member of the royal family, lost their land, and had to flee to Canada. Wish we'd stayed there.
"Very strict," "persecute people," and "religious fanatics" would certainly be a modern slant, they were like minded families that disagreed with the Church of England theology as it held on to many Catholic practices. Puritans were looking to remove more than add to their theology. They had agreed to sign the "Mayflower Compact" which was a governing set of standards in order to sustain themselves in a new world.
This. The “founding fathers” were all rich assholes who didn’t want to pay their taxes. “Taxation without representation” was just the propaganda of the day to rile the masses. Sound familiar?
The Plymouth plantation was first but it was also a massive shitshow with dubious legality. The Massachusetts bay colony was something else that came later, and it was speculators and adventurers directly sanctioned by king Charles 1
Compared to the American revolution you point stand but actually the first French Revolution (1789) was about progressive bourgeois overthrowing the monarchy (which was good). However 1789 did inspired 1830 revolution against Charles X (bourgeois than proletarian revolution), 1848 revolution against Louis-Philippe (this one led to European people spring), than the Commune of Paris and all the Communes of France (dictatures of proletariat). Also in France we learn at school that the French Revolution was peak history and it was how our modern nation formed
Hell, Americans still think the first colonists were persecuted religious peasants, rather than the rich speculators and adventurers directly sanctioned by the Crown that they were,
I doubt that because it does not make a lot of sense for wealthy people to take on such danger, which early colonization absolutely was. If their presence was required in business, then yea, but if you have the money and means then there is no way you are going to want to be a colonizer.
Always sad when you really wanna disagree with something, but you don't actually know anything - and have to settle for just hurling vague and substance-free invective.
Always sad when you really wanna disagree with something, but you don't actually know anything - and have to settle for just hurling vague and substance-free invective.
Always sad when you really wanna disagree with something, but you don't actually know anything - and have to settle for just hurling vague and substance-free invective.
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u/afghamistam 27d ago
To go even further, the French revolution was very much the "people rising up"; Americans absolutely are not taught that their revolution was one privilege class rebelling against their peers for a greater slice of the profits.
Hell, Americans still think the first colonists were persecuted religious peasants, rather than the rich speculators and adventurers directly sanctioned by the Crown that they were,