r/politics The Netherlands Mar 06 '25

Soft Paywall Elon Musk Suddenly Doesn’t Want Credit for Disastrous DOGE Cuts - Musk is warning Republicans to stop blaming DOGE for the cuts.

https://newrepublic.com/post/192415/elon-musk-warns-republicans-doge-job-cuts
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u/blues111 Michigan Mar 06 '25

Also the subservience to just let Trump and Musk do whatever the fuck they want!

Sure the whole republican party can share the credit with Trump and Musk

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u/ProfitLoud Mar 06 '25

It’s called treason. They have not upheld their oaths the country.

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u/Danni_Les Mar 06 '25

That's right - the oath is to UPHOLD the constitution, and they're too busy trying to tear it down.

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u/CarbsMe Mar 06 '25

Claude Malhuret used the phrase “piétonner la constitution” in his French speech about Trump this week. Piétonner means not just “walk on” the constitution, it is even more walking casually on a pedestrian street. His image was Trump trampling across the constitution like walking in the park.

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u/mrburger Mar 07 '25

His image was Trump trampling across the constitution like walking in the park.

I appreciate your translation, and Malhuret's incisive image.

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u/ProblemSame4838 29d ago

That was a fantastic speech! I wish the U.S. media would’ve reported it, but alas, America is under media censorship.

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u/erininva 28d ago

Perhaps “stroll over the Constitution”?

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u/checker280 Mar 06 '25

I never seen a president hate the US more than trump does.

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u/b0w3n New York Mar 06 '25

But think of the tens of hundreds of dollars they will each individual profit from it! Worth it to risk total economic ruin and your head on a pike, right?!

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u/Hector_P_Catt Mar 06 '25

" 'Uphold'? Shit, I said, 'Hold Up'! My bad."

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u/HectorJoseZapata Mar 06 '25

Neither party has upheld the constitution in ever.

Edit: No! Men are not created equal!! Women? What about it?

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u/Tyler106 Mar 07 '25

Seen a lot of democrats trying to tear down the constitution too. Must be a politician trait.

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u/ZubLor Mar 06 '25

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg would like a word.

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u/ConsiderationFar3903 Mar 06 '25

Wouldn’t they though!

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u/MasterFrosting1755 Mar 06 '25

They were convicted of espionage, not treason.

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u/Sgt-Spliff- Mar 06 '25

I wonder what the penalty for treason is...

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u/BoomBoomBoomer4591 Mar 06 '25

I know what it used to be, but now? idk. Should be the same if you ask me, which no one did, but it’s my two cents and you’re welcome to it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25

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u/ProfitLoud Mar 06 '25

If you are making decisions that favor Russia over our own citizens, you are aiding our enemy. Traitors, the lot of them.

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u/ewokninja123 Mar 06 '25

Treason is very narrowly defined in the constitution, but not sedition

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u/Pitiful-North-2781 Mar 06 '25

Impeachment when?

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u/vingovangovongo Mar 06 '25

Trump is immune to prosecution and Musk never took an oath

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u/ProfitLoud Mar 07 '25

Nope, but our senators do.

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u/MasterFrosting1755 Mar 06 '25

That's not what treason is.

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u/ProfitLoud Mar 06 '25

Giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States is treason. Failing to uphold your constitutional requirements to save our enemies is treason.

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u/MasterFrosting1755 Mar 07 '25

Giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States is treason.

In a time of congressionally declared war. That's a fairly key requirement you failed to mention.

There's a reason all the spies get charged with espionage and not treason.

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u/PinkyAnd Mar 06 '25

You know, maybe their primal self preservation instinct will ultimately save us all. If public opinion turns against Musk, Trump, and the other clowns overseeing the wholesale crumbling of the economy, there’s the possibility that the GOP will try to throw Trump/Musk, et al under the bus.

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u/Deathspiral222 Mar 06 '25

Fuck them. They need to be primaried out as soon as possible.

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u/Repose123 Mar 06 '25

There has to be recall petitions started NOW. Check with state statutes for proper format. Recalls WORK!

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u/bjaydubya Mar 06 '25

10 spineless politicians...I'd have to expect that if gets bad enough that republicans start going after Trump/Musk, then those spineless minions will simply follow the herd.

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u/Infamous_Boat_6469 Mar 06 '25

The 10 Democrats who voted with Republicans to censure Green were: Ami Bera of California, Ed Case of Hawaii, Jim Costa of California, Laura Gillen of New York, Jim Himes of Connecticut, Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvania, Marcy Kaptur of Ohio, Jared Moskowitz of Florida, Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington and Tom Suozzi of New York

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u/isokaywiththat Mar 06 '25

I was curious about Laura Gillen. She's new as of 2025 and she represents NY's 4th congressional district... which is apparently the 2nd richest district in New York and ranks among the richest nationally... so we can't trust her to not act like a Republican.

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u/dxnxax Mar 06 '25

Moskowitz surprises me

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u/BoomBoomBoomer4591 Mar 06 '25

Thank you, New Jersey, for standing up for the constitution.

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u/cosmicsans Mar 06 '25

Say their names.

Reps. Ami Bera and Jim Costa, both of California; Ed Case of Hawaii; Laura Gillen and Tom Suozzi, both of New York; Jim Himes of Connecticut; Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvania; Marcy Kaptur of Ohio; Jared Moskowitz of Florida; and Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington state.

Fuck every single one of them. Where were the votes to censure Nazi barbie and Nazi howler monkey?

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25

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u/F54280 Mar 06 '25

Sorry, am french, don't know the difference.

Google translate:

to censure => censurer

to censor => censurer

Happy to learn the difference.

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u/jazzhandler Colorado Mar 06 '25

You’re right of course, but it also works as wordplay.

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u/SJWTumblrinaMonster Mar 06 '25

You can't expect them to wear pink ties, hold up ping pong paddles with pithy statements on them, AND support a fellow Democrat's resistance to the rise of fascism!

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 North Carolina Mar 06 '25

I got accused of being maga for pointing this out. Whole lot of self destructive democrats with blinders on who think their elected reps will ride in like knights in shining armor to save them.

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u/BadArtijoke Mar 06 '25

No, it won’t. Don’t give people another reason to keep sitting on the couch

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u/macromind Mar 06 '25

He is scared of the veterans it seems! He will need much more that some close security if the veterans start going after him!

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u/psychorobotics Mar 06 '25

He asked them to send five bullets didn't he?

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u/Exciting-Current-778 Mar 06 '25

Hot ones. Fresh out the pipe??

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 North Carolina Mar 06 '25

Oh, snap. Lol

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u/TheTallGuy0 Mar 07 '25

You should really specify in MEMO form. Not in 7.62mm… But OOPS too late

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u/lunarsight Mar 07 '25

The kicker is in that email to all federal employees, he could literally have chosen any other synonym for 'listed out items'.

Why in the holy heck did he choose that particular word? That was a complete absence of thought on his part.

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u/wnt2knoY Mar 06 '25

Perhaps with his role, he can personally be sued if it's to be illegal.

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u/PatReady Mar 06 '25

He doesn't hold an office with assumed immunity.

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u/psalm6969 Mar 06 '25

Hey! Upset veterans: https://mastodon.social/@elonjet ( disclaimer: only posted for entertainment purposes )

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u/politik_mod_suck Mar 06 '25

Imagine if Cotton Hill went after him in some fever dream episode of the reboot of King of the Hill

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u/PinkyAnd Mar 06 '25

I’m not saying that at all. The public pressure is exactly the mechanism that would create the feeling that they need to throw Trump/Musk under the bus. That’s why they’re cancelling town halls.

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u/calmdownmyguy Colorado Mar 06 '25

Trump is the republican party. It's been ten years. When will people understand this? There are no republican voters, just trump voters. They'll fill out the ballot for republicans to help trump but their loyalty is to the Manhattan trust fund billionaire, not the party.

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u/Medical-Ad-3080 Mar 06 '25

And the Democrats are the devil on earth

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u/plastic_alloys Mar 07 '25

In any other country, the democrats would seem like a greedy, hypocritical, very right wing party. The Republicans are such evil assholes they make them look somewhat reasonable

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u/yikes_mylife Mar 06 '25

Yeah, given that trump literally had no plan this time around, they couldn’t pretend that they had other reasons other than being ignorant xenophobic racists. There was no tax plan for them to pretend was their priority.

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u/lefthandb1ack Mar 06 '25

Did you mean “34x felon, rapist, and 6x bankrupt Manhattan trust fund billionaire”?

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u/what3v3ruwantit2b Mar 07 '25

I've been saying this as well. I had a conversation with someone about a family member and the dumb maga things they said. The person I was talking to said, "oh I didn't know they were maga. I thought they were just a Republican who listens to fox." It blew my mind for a minute to be honest. If you say you are Republican at this point you are maga. They aren't separate.

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u/your_moms_a_clone 29d ago

And Trump is old. He will eventually die. He may not even make it through four years. Most sitting Republicans will probably outlive him. If they have even half a brain, they are also thinking about what will happen after he's gone.

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u/psiphre Alaska Mar 07 '25

I think you mean “god-emperor Trump, chosen of the Republican Party (long may he reign)”.

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u/PinkyAnd Mar 06 '25

He is the Republican Party now. As soon as he becomes an albatross around their necks and actively hurting their chances of being re-elected, they’ll abandon him.

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u/calmdownmyguy Colorado Mar 06 '25

They can't abandon him. The base thinks he was chosen by god. They'll be the ones left out in the cold if they cross trump, no matter how much 70% of America comes to hate the guy as his policy takes effect. The base will always believe trump was chosen by god.

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u/Snoutysensations Mar 06 '25

They'll frame the public pressure as coming from Leftist radicals and immigrants, not real Americans. They won't do anything until the MAGA base turns against Trump, which is unlikely to happen. Even if half of MAGA is unemployed, hungry, and sick with measles they'll just blame Biden and Hilary and Ukraine and Mexico for their suffering.

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u/hyperhurricanrana Mar 06 '25

That’s what they’re already saying about the town halls, every single person there not happy is a paid lying antifa.

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 North Carolina Mar 06 '25

Yah totally and that's why they're hiding from their own voters.

Lol

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u/xxxxNateDaGreat Mar 06 '25

Bingo. Germans didn't overthrow Hitler, the Allies did and it will probably take some new allies this time around. Yippee.

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u/haightwrightmore Mar 06 '25

And elmo and Cookie Monster and the Babe and Billy Holiday,Salvador Dali, Billy Joel, and Webster, Clark Grizzwald,Jerry Garcia and Jane Doe and 4 other people I forgot.

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u/haightwrightmore Mar 06 '25

Steve and blue

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u/mr_mikado Mar 06 '25

Remember, there are people in places like North Korea and Russia so poor they MUST root around in trash for basic survival yet heap praise upon their dear leader.

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u/my_names_blah_blah Mar 07 '25

I think at least 30-40% of the case, his base is all three..

Unemployed, Hungry and sick.

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u/DennisMoves Mar 06 '25

Yep and because they are deeply evil at heart they will blame the most powerless, underrepresented people that are the easiest to bully and eradicate such as the Trans community.

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u/Snoutysensations Mar 06 '25

Yes. In fact support for Trump might even increase if his base starts to hurt. They'll just scapegoat LGBTQ, Blacks, immigrants, the usual.

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u/Just-Emu-friend Mar 06 '25

who is sitting on the couch most of us are trying to survive

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u/eljefino Mar 06 '25

Vance, for starters

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u/Fast_Witness_3000 Mar 06 '25

I don’t know if I’d call that “sitting”..meanwhile tbag is over there shitting on the couch

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u/triplab Mar 06 '25

‘Sitting’ is an odd way to describe oiled up and prone bone position.

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u/TheTallGuy0 Mar 07 '25

That’s how YOU sit? 💦 💦

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u/BeenCaughtSneezing Mar 06 '25

"Keep your fucking mouth away from my couch!" JD Vance

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u/JackalKing Mar 06 '25

This is a trend I've noticed in the left side of American politics over the years. There is this tendency to mythologize ways in which things will just turn out okay eventually. Maybe the Republicans will turn on Trump. Maybe he will just die one day and the whole MAGA thing will go away over night. Maybe the establishment Democrats will wake up one day and realize they have a spine. Maybe if I just hope hard enough things will magically be fixed and I won't have to do anything to make it happen.

The American left LOVES to believe in the myth of progress. That all things will eventually just turn out like they are supposed to, and when that doesn't happen they fantasize about ways it could happen. Its the libertarian ideal of the free market applied to government ethics, and when that fails they resort to the magical thinking of the religious right.

Historically speaking, once fascists taste a little bit of power the only way it ends is with a whole lot of bloodshed, and the fascists in America have the full backing of the richest people on the planet. Things are more likely to get WORSE rather than better. Fantasizing about the Republicans one day turning on Trump is just coping.

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u/Haywoodjablowme1029 Mar 06 '25

This is the correct answer if one actually looks to history to understand the future.

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u/A-Handsome-Stranger- Mar 06 '25

I wish, the Democrats repeatedly take the bait of framing Trump/Musk/MAGA as "not real Republicans"

Tie them together. They're the same. There are no fake/real Republicans. There is only Trump.

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u/MajorNoodles Pennsylvania Mar 06 '25

Trump has been running for President as a Republican for the last decade. Seems to me that the "not real" Republicans are the ones who don't support him.

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u/PinkyAnd Mar 06 '25

I’ve never seen any Dem saying that Trump/Musk aren’t real republicans. In fact, I’ve only seen the opposite.

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u/abritinthebay Mar 06 '25

Yeah, people like that poster are so blinded by their desire to hate the Dems that they straight up lie.

They’re fascist enablers & are part of what got us in this mess

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u/ShamelessLeft Mar 06 '25

I wish we could stop calling them 'Republicans' and go back to calling them the Confederates they've always been.

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u/bravetailor Mar 06 '25

It's more likely for Trump to fire his entire administration before that happens.

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u/Sirlothar Michigan Mar 06 '25

This would be unlikely. Their plan is just to remove any accountability to their constituents and just keep pushing their agenda unchecked.

What is actually likely is Trump will invoke the Insurrection Act, declare martial law, and just cancel/delay elections indefinitely. That would be easier and more effective then trying to convince voters to give them another shot in 2026.

Trump gave DoD and Homeland 90 days to submit a joint report on whether to invoke the Insurrection Act over our border crisis and I think we all know what the report is going to say.

We know Trump has been pointing out how Ukraine has suspended their elections and people seem to understand why because of an active invasion of their homeland. Well.... we have our own "invasion" we are dealing with right now. It's not real but when has that ever mattered?

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u/FriskyDingos Mar 06 '25

Political gravity is still a reality. Even when it feels like the GOP and Trump and Musk are immune to it. All it will take is for some red-state Trump voters to find their social security check didn’t come through or their medicare was cut-off and they will turn like dogs on their masters. I also anticipate in the next couple of months we’ll also see a big erosion of support amongst Trump voters who are also ex-military/veterans. There’s no way the slashing of the jobs at the VA doesn’t start having very real every-day-life impacting changes for them. I don’t think the impacts of this are even close to being realized yet. We are barely over 6 weeks into this SNAFU and it takes a little time for these effects to be realized and ripple through the electorate.

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u/Lucky-Earther Minnesota Mar 06 '25

All it will take is for some red-state Trump voters to find their social security check didn’t come through or their medicare was cut-off and they will turn like dogs on their masters.

This is really the moment I'm waiting for, and they just cut a bunch of people at SSA.

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u/mrbigglessworth Mar 06 '25

LOL no, that requires critical thinking and introspection. Something I guarantee that Trump has never done either of. They will continue to develop shit polices and blame everyone like Biden or the democrats. Blame will NEVER been accepted or consequences enforced. We wont have mid terms so we cant vote these fuckers out. Its only going to get worse before any of it gets better.

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u/PinkyAnd Mar 06 '25

It doesn’t require any of that, just reading what’s on the wall. If it’s a question of Trump’s survival or their own, they will abandon Trump.

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u/mrbigglessworth Mar 06 '25

You are far too optimistic. We have had 10 years of opportunity to reject Trump politically. Now look at where we are.

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u/PinkyAnd Mar 06 '25

They haven’t had to. Now he’s hurting his own base.

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u/mrbigglessworth Mar 06 '25

And they will stick by him until he dies or commands them to do something otherwise. If after 10 years of seeing his incredible incompetence hasn't turned them by now, absolutely nothing will.

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u/PinkyAnd Mar 06 '25

He was able to paper over the harms using taxpayer dollars and he did that because he needed to win a second term. He doesn’t now, so he won’t be spending $30 billion to prop up the ag industry. When farmers start losing their generational farms to foreclosures, they’re gonna get fucking pissed.

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u/mrbigglessworth Mar 06 '25

And will still vote for the R because DEMOCRATS BAD!

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u/PolygonMan Mar 06 '25

Trump is going to try and enact martial law and their self preservation will cause them to continue doing what they've been doing all along - obeying in advance.

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u/Aloecats Mar 06 '25

Perhaps. It’s surely in their nature to go with the side they think is winning.

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u/Eddie7Fingers Arizona Mar 06 '25

You haven't been paying attention if you think the GOP is going to do anything to trump and musk other than lick their balls.

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u/PinkyAnd Mar 06 '25

If it’s a question of their own survival or Trump’s they will choose themselves.

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u/Eddie7Fingers Arizona Mar 06 '25

I want to agree with you, but I think that's a coin flip. Although with such thin margins in both the House and Senate, just a few defectors could start a flood.

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 North Carolina Mar 06 '25

That's really wishful thinking. They think they have all the pieces in place to just rip the mask off.

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u/No-Ad9763 Mar 06 '25

I think this is the most likely outcome

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u/okilz Mar 06 '25

They're not smart enough for that.

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u/ghjm Mar 06 '25

No Republican anywhere in the US can win an election without the MAGAs. They're bonded at the hip. They can't throw Trump under the bus without throwing themselves under the bus, and they know it.

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u/h2ogal Mar 06 '25

I think it’s more like Trump will throw musk under the bus.

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u/cugeltheclever2 Mar 06 '25

And maybe pigs will fly.

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u/Turbulent_Pool_5378 Mar 06 '25

Yep we all saw all of them standing, clapping and cheering his lies the other night.

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u/broniesnstuff Mar 06 '25

the subservience to just let Trump and Musk do whatever the fuck they want!

Republicucks

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u/GiftToTheUniverse Mar 06 '25

Tweedle Pump and Convict Dump.

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u/RepublicansAreEvil90 Mar 06 '25

They’re all complicit

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u/aradraugfea Mar 06 '25

The Republicans, Lead by DOGE Head Elon Musk!

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u/strangerducly 29d ago

Pretty sure the word is saboteur. No SCOTUS immunity for him (doggy).

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u/saywhatagainmthrfckr 25d ago

Its more than just subservience, you think that fucking orange moron ever even heard the words "rare earth minerals" before Wormtongue whispered that in his ear?

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u/beardicusmaximus8 Mar 06 '25

Don't let the Democrats off so easy. You saw them at the state of the union address. Just sitting there with their little signs.

Makes me wish I'd decided to run for Congress. I'd have brought in a poster with Elon's stupid little "gesture" and they'd had to drag me screaming about Nazis from the chambers.

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u/hannibellecter Mar 06 '25

and all the democrats that are helping them along by confirming their cabinet selections and voting to censure Rep Green among other actions (or non-actions)