r/politics • u/Murky-Site7468 I voted • 8d ago

Soft Paywall The Biggest Scandal of the Second Trump Term Isn’t “Signalgate” | The national-security chat debacle certainly merits attention. But the Trump administration is now blatantly disappearing students and others who are in the country legally.

https://newrepublic.com/article/193291/trump-disappearing-students-rumeysa-ozturk-rubio-biggest-scandal
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u/CaterpillarJungleGym 8d ago

Is he the guy who's Dad was a Cuban dissident and refugee?

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u/illstealurcandy Florida 8d ago

His parents came here before the revolution, they weren't dissidents nor were they refugees.

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u/Few_Recording3486 8d ago

Lots of things aren't true these days. Doesn't stop people from saying otherwise.

Marco Rubio's parents were dissidents and refugees from Cuba.

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u/Bobswife72 8d ago

Rubio and his family need to go back to Cuba

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u/Few_Recording3486 8d ago

I don't have anything against his whole family. He can go by himself, of course.

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u/Reef-Mortician 8d ago

You don't know the Cuban people. His family holds the same beliefs. Exile Cubans are very consistent with their political views

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u/Day_of_Demeter 8d ago

Most Cubans aren't from the exile generation.

Also, like half of Cubans vote Dem. They actually aren't consistent in their political views.

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u/Reef-Mortician 8d ago

You're going to tell me a Cuban? Lol. Dude every single Cuban is apart of the Exile community. We're not here because of our will, there a tyrannical government in place. Even if its a visa process, you came here to avoid the communist party.

The ones which arrived post 2000 lean left but that's because they're leaning democrat after Obama relaxed relations and they e learned to work the entitlement programs for new arrivals. Miami is probably the most corrupt city in America as there's always ways around the system down there.

The younger generation born in exile is split 60/40 R:D as we've been Americanized and assimilated into the culture. Our parents experience fleeing the country and the indoctrination against communism is the reasoning for the leaning towards right wing policy.

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u/Day_of_Demeter 8d ago

  1. I'm also Cuban my dude, hold your horses

  2. When people say "exiles" in my experience they tend to mean the first generation in the 60s and 70s that fled due to political repression and they were practically kicked out (exiled). Later generations came mostly for economic opportunities and out of their own volition (which is fine, I don't believe you need to be literally fearing for your life to be allowed to immigrate)

Our parents experience fleeing the country and the indoctrination against communism is the reasoning for the leaning towards right wing policy.

Are Chileans and Germans against fascism because they were indoctrinated against it, or because they lived it?

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u/FlipWildBuckWild 8d ago

You’re doing it wrong. You’re supposed to pick a specific member of the family to harass and potentially lock up.

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u/Few_Recording3486 8d ago

Ok, I pick Marco.

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u/FlipWildBuckWild 8d ago

That’s the spirit! Polo.

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u/highlandviper 8d ago

Rubio certainly doesn’t sound like a traditional American name.

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u/Nervous_Pipe_6716 8d ago

Either way what matters is he is another member of this regime that believe they are above the constitution. In other words TRAITORS.

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u/NorthRoseGold 8d ago

I heard they were definitely refugees

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u/Its_fine22223 8d ago

Apparently they came before the revolution as economic migrants, but Rubio framed the narrative as one of exile to resonate with Cuban Americans in Florida. Soooo…turns out he was disingenuous all along.

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u/bvan_mim619 8d ago

That’s exactly right

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u/Psychicgoat2 8d ago

Correct.

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u/dustinhut13 8d ago

What a total piece of shit

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u/Psychicgoat2 8d ago

They came in 1957. They were not refugees.

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u/illstealurcandy Florida 8d ago

They immigrated before the revolution, and have no record of dissent against Bautista or Castro. They were neither.

The difference is significant for families like mine who did dissent against dictators and were forced into exile.

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u/AlarmingAffect0 8d ago

I wonder how relations are between Cubans who left because of Bautista and ones who left because of Castro.

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u/Few_Recording3486 8d ago

I mean no disrespect for what your family went through. I was just trying to get the point across that people will just say shit without anything to back it up these days, and other people are ready to just believe it because it aligns with their previously held believes/notions/feelings.

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u/MCPtz California 8d ago

Then perhaps you should edit your post and correct it?

It still states the following:

Marco Rubio's parents were dissidents and refugees from Cuba.

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u/CaterpillarJungleGym 8d ago

His wikipedia page is interesting. But it does not say his parents were dissidents and refugees. Just some of his relatives who now live in the US.

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u/Psychicgoat2 8d ago

They were not and his statement of when they came here was eventually and under pressure corrected BY Rubio eventually. They came in 1957.

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u/elebrin 8d ago

Many of the elite, wealthy people from Cuba were getting American money before the revolution, and they were legally allowed to come to the US when we and they knew everything was about to get violent.

The Cubans who came to the US were predominantly the former oligarchs and mobsters of Cuba and the people they liked. These are the people that the Cuban revolution explicitly wanted to kill and take the wealth of, and of course the US protected them. To the people they were criminals. It's also why a lot of Hispanic groups absolutely hate the Cuban descendants in the US.

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u/Bobswife72 8d ago

So we got Cuban criminals over here so that Rubio’s family would be deported known criminals

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u/CaterpillarJungleGym 8d ago

Thank you! I always appreciate learning more stuff!

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u/friendofelephants 8d ago

Rubio is a birthright citizen! Perfect example of a guy who got his and wants to deny others. This is some serious scary shit that they're doing. I would not be surprised if the U.S. has its own Tiananmen Square under Trump.

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u/NineLivesMatter999 8d ago

Fun Fact! Cuban immigrants in Florida are mostly asshole Trump supporters.

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u/Striking-Soil5172 8d ago

“Refugee” who has been back home several times