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Soft Paywall The Biggest Scandal of the Second Trump Term Isn’t “Signalgate” | The national-security chat debacle certainly merits attention. But the Trump administration is now blatantly disappearing students and others who are in the country legally.

https://newrepublic.com/article/193291/trump-disappearing-students-rumeysa-ozturk-rubio-biggest-scandal
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u/An0therParacIete 8d ago

next they'll revoke naturalized citizenship

There's no doubt about this. It's just a matter of time until we hear about someone whose citizenship is being revoked because they were naturalized under "false pretenses" aka, they wrote an op-ed or taught a class or attending a protest that was pro-Palestine.

I'm a naturalized citizen and my lawyer friends have really cautioned me from leaving the country right now because they say it's a ticking time bomb. Some naturalized citizen is going to get detained on the way back to the country and Rubio is going to strip them of citizenship on flimsy grounds. All of them say it's a matter of when it happens, not if it happens.

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u/VenusRocker 8d ago

Didn't they already test revoking citizenship during Trump's first term? I seem to remember a bunch of people (American citizens) having passports seized & entry denied because, the administration claimed, the midwife who signed their birth certificates was suspected of falsifying them or some such bs. Pretty sure my details are wrong, but the happening was real.

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u/Inocain New York 8d ago

whose citizenship is being revoked because they were naturalized under "false pretenses"

Sounds like a certain spacehead I know of.

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u/beru_abducted 8d ago

Not sure staying in the country is safe either tbh

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u/Johnnydeep4206 8d ago

Well It does not pay to be pro Hammas support your local girlscouts and not international terrorists.

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u/An0therParacIete 8d ago

Well, that and don't say you don't like genocide. Because then even if you're a Fullbright scholar, they'll kidnap you and deport you. We can't have people writing op-ed's saying that killing is bad.

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u/Johnnydeep4206 8d ago

Well she is here on a visa she is not a US citizen so she should be able to be deported for whatever reason the State Department chooses, honestly Id be fine with no reason at all with liberals the sky is always falling meanwhile liberals are out firebombing and have 2 literal self proclaimed Socialists in their party lol

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u/An0therParacIete 8d ago

Lol, I'm not liberal. I'm actually with you on this. I'm 100% in support of deporting people who write op-ed's saying that killing is bad. If you only deport people who do objectionable things like support genocide, people will think that there's a moral standard at play. This way, we can make it obvious what the real reason for deportation is. Less brown people in this country, the better.

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u/Johnnydeep4206 8d ago

that doesnt change the fact that they are a guest in a country on a Visa and if that country decides they do not want you their anymore you were their based on privilege and not a right. Its up to the State Department who they want to give the privilege to and who they dont want to give it to. I think the sense of entitlement that you have a right to be here is what the problem is.

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u/An0therParacIete 8d ago

...dude, I already told you we're in agreement. I don't want brown people here any more than you do and I'm glad we finally have a president who's not afraid to kick them out.

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u/Johnnydeep4206 8d ago

I mean I think that is pretty ignorant to throw someone out based on how they look, Im just curious have you ever traveled to the UK ?

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u/An0therParacIete 8d ago

I don't care about UK. America first and less brown people here, especially Muslims.

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u/Johnnydeep4206 8d ago

Thats your choice I tend to make educated guesses on what would happen if you have no border, without a border you have no country. Some would call your views on muslims and brown people racists. See for me it could be White Canadians and they would have to go if they are here especially if they are a strain on the system.

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