r/politics • u/sweatycat New York • 20h ago

California to Negotiate Trade With Other Countries to Bypass Trump Tariffs

https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414
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u/ToastyJackson 19h ago

You can literally just flip the argument when they say dumb shit like that. They’re worried about the “tyranny of the majority” telling the minority what to do, but if that’s how it works, the current system is a tyranny of the minority where the majority is at the whim of the minority. If your only options are tyranny, there’s no justifiable reason why it shouldn’t be a tyranny of the majority so that more people are happy.

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u/AlwaysShittyKnsasCty 19h ago

This is amazing, actually. I’ve never thought about it in this way, and your conclusion is quite logical. Very nice.

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u/gakule 19h ago

Unfortunately logic still doesn't actually convince conservatives. They just get mad and stomp away.

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u/AlwaysShittyKnsasCty 19h ago

What’s that quote? “You can’t out-reason a person who didn’t use reason in the first place.” That’s not the quote, but it’s in the ballpark.

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u/gakule 19h ago

I like to use "you can't reason someone out of something they didn't reason themselves into" - but yours is a fun way to say it with potentially a more devastating subtlety to it

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u/AlwaysShittyKnsasCty 19h ago

Nope, yours was the one! Haha. I’m just an ineloquent misrememberer.

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u/Xyllus 17h ago

except it's only a tyranny when the wrong people are in charge

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u/pubertino122 3h ago

But Trump won the popular vote too didn’t he 

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u/Morbu 1h ago

“tyranny of the majority” is also just democracy, for better and for worse. Also, those people only talk about that shit when it suits them. They probably don't know jackshit about minority groups in the U.S. whom actually had to live through a "majority tyranny."