r/politics New York 1d ago

California to Negotiate Trade With Other Countries to Bypass Trump Tariffs

https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414
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u/Archer1407 1d ago

Trump is going to launch a trade war against California in the next few days.

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u/pm_me_ur_ParusMajors North Carolina 1d ago

Considering how much agriculture and manufacturing actually come out of California, this would have a substantial impact on the rest of the US. The California gdp is as much as in the top 5 gdp's in the world.

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u/Hephaistos_Invictus 1d ago

as much as the top 5 gdp's in the world

Wtf... I did not expect this to be true. That's mind boggling

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u/merikariu Texas 1d ago edited 18h ago

Yeah, ppl in Texas have bumper stickers that say "Don't California My Texas." But the CA's economy is much stronger, has better healthcare and labor protections, and weed is legal!

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u/brotkel 18h ago

And they pay less in taxes. 

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u/Shelbeeeee 8h ago

If I could afford to live there in CA, I would :’(

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u/Fun_University_8380 21h ago

Crazy the legal weed is still a selling point anywhere at all in 2025

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u/ArkamaZero 1d ago

It's still hamstrung by being part of the US.

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u/ak1knight 22h ago

California is a bit hamstrung with taxation compared to a sovereign nation because of federal taxes. If all taxes paid by Californians went to the state they could do a lot more with social programs (and they already do a lot compared to most states). That isn't to say that California politics are totally progressive either of course, but no matter what they are limited.

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u/ArkamaZero 1d ago

Not excusing it. Just pointing out that California doesn't dictate the prices.

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u/ak1knight 22h ago

Federal money is the primary funding source for Medicaid/Medi-cal so there's really only so much they could do.

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u/XXendra56 1d ago

Texas has more registered firearms California has more registered fighter planes lol 

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u/CostRains 1d ago

Texas also has a higher murder rate, whether they believe it or not.

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u/YouBlinkinSootLicker 1d ago

California is a playground for the rich, and retired. Your homeless are innumerable!

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u/Echo-canceller 15h ago

6th state per capita but it's pretty normal. Homeless people are always around economic centers with a strong third sector.

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u/YouBlinkinSootLicker 11h ago

Rats and seagulls hang around dumpsters too.

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u/DOG_DICK__ 1d ago

Shitload of people, the center of west coast shipping, agriculture, tech, hollywood. I mean the list goes on. The only reason I didn't move to California is the high cost of living.

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u/diamondpredator 1d ago

There are lower cost of living areas away from the metropolitan hubs but yea cost of living anywhere close to a city is pretty high lol.

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u/morethanjustanalien 1d ago

If people in red states could read, this would greatly change their opinions on California politics.

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u/qtx extra butter 1d ago

I mean is it? Americans always like to compare their states to countries. So this is what it looks like it it were actually true.

Each state is basically a country. Some have good economies, some bad.

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u/Lower_Monk6577 1d ago

Yes, it’s honestly probably more useful to think of the US as less of a country and more of 50 semi-independent states who share an overarching governing body.

The US being a single country makes about as much sense as Europe being a single country, minus the language barrier. People in New York have very little in common with people from Arkansas. And quite frankly, a lot of us in the more liberal/progressive states are becoming quite fed up with those people controlling our government, since the concentration of population in cities and certain states means very little with the way our Congress is set up. Landmass has more to do with voting power than citizenship.

It’s one of the main reason why our politics are so polarized. Farmers in North Dakota have more voting power than a city dweller in literally any other state.

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u/Hephaistos_Invictus 1d ago

Well yeah, that I know. It's like if Europe became one country with vast differences as well. But I just never really thought about it because I always think of the US as one country

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u/JinFuu 1d ago

GDP Wise for our top 5 states

California = India

Texas = Italy

New York = Brazil

Florida = Mexico

Illinois = Saudi Arabia

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u/Tricky_Topic_5714 1d ago

LA county on it's own has a higher population than like 40 states. 

It's hard to overstate how big California is.

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u/CheetaLover 1d ago

Trump would still have higher GDP than Putin so maybe he thinks it’s OK.