r/politics • u/sweatycat New York • 19h ago

California to Negotiate Trade With Other Countries to Bypass Trump Tariffs

https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414
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u/xaviersi Texas 19h ago

From Texas here, we'd never align with California on anything even if they're in the right. Ethically, Texas has fallen quite a bit.

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u/Broken-Digital-Clock 19h ago

Texan cities might want to work with CA, but they are surrounded by rural Texas.

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u/xaviersi Texas 18h ago

As an Austinite, this hits so deep, lol

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u/Broken-Digital-Clock 18h ago

Especially Austin

I could see a massive exodus from ATX to the west coast if things go further off of the rails

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u/xaviersi Texas 18h ago

The rumblings are definitely there. In my household especially, I'm pushing for Minnesota, personally. Lol

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u/Healthy_Ad_6171 18h ago

Same here. Thinking west coast though. Cause this is insane.

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u/Larovich153 17h ago

Move to swing states and force them to go blue

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u/Broken-Digital-Clock 18h ago

I just hate the cold so much, or else I'd go back to NY

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u/speakingofdinosaurs 18h ago

Arizona is purple and warm. Similar to Texas but with a chance of your vote making a difference.

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u/Broken-Digital-Clock 18h ago

I worry about settling down somewhere with scarce water supply. Austin is arid, but has some decent aquifers.

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u/speakingofdinosaurs 18h ago

The water wars are going to be brutal.

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u/Broken-Digital-Clock 18h ago

Probably why I'd go for the PNW, over CA, even though it's colder and gloomier.

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u/sniper1rfa 18h ago

Austin airlift.

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u/ReyRey5280 Colorado 15h ago

It’s already happening with the influx of Texans to CO, Coloradans bitch about asshole Ford mallcrawlers with Texas plates on the road, but in my lifelong experience in Denver, Texans and Georgians are some of the chillest and fun transplants thatve been moving out here. Minnesotans and some Chicagoans are up there too. On the other hand, all the upper and lower Midwest to other southern states transplants seem to be the most basic of extra mild bros and bland oblivious Karens who don’t realize the nice overpriced rebuilt house they afforded through generational wealth to get out of their shitty Ohiowa town

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u/Broken-Digital-Clock 15h ago

As much as I hate the cold, I've been thinking about Colorado. At least it's sunny there.

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u/Secure_One_3885 14h ago

Coloradans bitch about asshole Ford mallcrawlers with Texas plates on the road

Coloradans stub their toe and blame Texans. That's just who they are, as people.

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u/ReyRey5280 Colorado 12h ago

There’s truth to this

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u/ninjaandrew 13h ago

San Antonio too. Many will avoid being sitting ducks as the entire city is surrounded by military bases that could roll out federal or state enforcement if local policies start becoming “too left”. Scary times.

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u/Worthyness 18h ago

Texas rural folks would match California's rural folks. More trump fans in California than people in Wyoming.

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u/Broken-Digital-Clock 18h ago

Rural folk in CA don't control the state government.

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u/Schonke 17h ago

If they can gerrymander within states, what's stopping gerrymandering of state borders?

Just make a half a mile wide stretch of land from California to Austin, and entire Austin, into California!

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u/Broken-Digital-Clock 16h ago

Don't threaten me with a good time!

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u/A_Furious_Mind 19h ago edited 19h ago

California has a bit to answer for, as well. But, given that their economy is absolutely gargantuan and they're basically carrying the US on their back, I find it hard to judge. It's not like my state is doing that.

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u/azurricat2010 18h ago

People, esp the maga type, don't realize this. SF alone has a bigger GDP than most southern states, ranked 31st across all states. SF metro area would be ranked 13th across all states.

CA has a GDP around 4T which would rank in the top 5 of countries and only slightly behind Japan and Germany who are at 4.2 and 4.5.

SF has a GDP around 225B

SF Metro has a GDP of 668B

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u/Buff-Cooley 18h ago

The Greater LA area also has the third highest GDP in the world, only behind NYC at #2 and Tokyo at #1.

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u/azurricat2010 18h ago

Speaking of Greater LA. I "love" the maps that conservatives use to show how much support they have across the nation, not realizing that land doesn't vote.

LA county alone would probably rank 10th or so in population if it were a state.

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u/Imapatriothurrrdurrr California 18h ago

4th largest economy in the world.

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u/EggsceIlent 18h ago

They have something like the 5th largest gdp in the world.

Behind us(prolly formally),china,Germany,Japan

I'm sure after the last few days and months of Trump, that list has changed.

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u/Ancient_Sentence_628 18h ago

Ethically, Texas has fallen quite a bit.

Ethically, Texas was always bottom of the barrel. I've seen how poorly they treat minorities and women and children there, as far back as 2000...

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u/coleman57 18h ago

Willie celebrated his 90th at the Hollywood Bowl, LOL.

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u/AllRushMixTapes 18h ago

Texas seceded from two countries so they could keep slaves. They haven't fallen that far.

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u/Stellar_Duck 10h ago

Fallen? Compared to when? From when it was stolen from Mexico?

When it joined the Confederacy? Jim Crow? From where did it fall?

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u/PenImpossible874 New York 10h ago

Mmmhmm.

If California were to ban CSAM, Abbott would legalize it in Texas the next day.

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u/UpperApe 18h ago

"Fallen" implies you were elevated to begin with.