r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 1d ago

Soft Paywall Obama Breaks Silence on Trump’s ‘Unimaginable’ Presidency - “Imagine if I had done any of this,” the former two-term president said.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/obama-breaks-silence-on-trumps-unimaginable-presidency/
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u/jtsa5 1d ago

If anyone else other than Trump did anything wrong it was like the world was ending. When it's Trump everyone has kid gloves on.

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u/UngodlyPain 1d ago

This isn't true. Reagan and Dubya each also got kid gloves too.

Seriously Reagan was allowed to go on national TV and almost explicitly say "I did highly illegal things with Iran Contra and I should probably be impeached then sent to prison... But I'm fucking Reagan, so who cares?" ...

Dubya was also given tons of benefits of the doubt and kid gloves about 9/11, the war on terror, and the entire 2008 financial collapse and the response to it.

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u/SevanIII 1d ago

Don't forget that the 2008 financial collapse was exacerbated due to W's poor handling of the dot com bust in the beginning of his first term as well. 

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u/UngodlyPain 1d ago

Exactly but I remember in 2012 tons of people were like "but Obama let 2008 happen" like my dude he was inaugurated in 09.

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u/SevanIII 1d ago

Too many people just don't pay attention. Which is a big part of why we're here today. 

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u/mister_buddha 1d ago

I was once told that the crash happened due to Obama being the presumptive winner of the election.

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u/UngodlyPain 1d ago

Meanwhile it's the actual complete opposite. Obama won because the crash was blamed on the Republicans who were in control at the time, as well as the Clinton's who were largely incontrol of the Dem party.

Obama was an upstart who got pretty lucky with his timing. And the fact he has charisma and public speaking skills.

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u/mcpickle-o 1d ago

"We'd like to get to the bottom of that."

---Trump voter when asked about why Obama wasn't in office on 9/11.

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u/UngodlyPain 1d ago

Jesus that also extra gets me, at least with 2008 Obama was a US Senator... But back in 2001 he wasn't even a federal representative, he was in the Illinois state legislature which had nothing to do with 9/11.

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u/mcpickle-o 1d ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T2IaJwkqgPk&t=4599s&pp=2AH3I5ACAQ%3D%3D

Here's a good documentary for anyone interested in how neoliberalism has basically ruined the world.