r/science • u/mvea Professor | Medicine • Jan 06 '25

Health After the US overturned Roe v Wade, permanent contraception surged among young adults living in states likely to ban abortion, new research found. Compared to May 2022, August 2022 saw 95% more vasectomies and 70% more tubal sterilizations performed on people between the ages of 19 and 26.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/06/permanent-contraception-abortion-roe-v-wade
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u/Serenity1911 Jan 06 '25

I decided to be sterilized in my 20s because I knew I could never afford a kid. I can barely afford to care after myself. And if for some reason I actually make money some how. There are other ways to have children if I so choose.

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u/Swimming-Ebb-4231 Jan 07 '25

You knew in your 20s that you were never gonna be able to afford children? Just wow

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u/llamasyi Jan 07 '25

got mine recently as well in 20s, it’s nerve wracking keeping a job for my own expenses, add a kid into that and i would be stressed to an unimaginable degree

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u/Serenity1911 Jan 07 '25

In my 20s I did know I would never afford them. I'm 32 now and even worse financial straits. I'm doubly glad I had my procedure done.

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u/Swimming-Ebb-4231 Jan 07 '25

What do you DO with your life??

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u/Serenity1911 Jan 07 '25

Work and enjoy my free time with my partner. Why do you ask?

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u/Swimming-Ebb-4231 Jan 07 '25

Because by your own admission your life is no better today than it was in your twenties… Sounds like you are wasting your life but you do you

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u/Serenity1911 Jan 07 '25

Well, what should I be doing different?

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u/Swimming-Ebb-4231 Jan 07 '25

Please don’t feel attacked, as it is not my intention. I am sure you did what is best for you

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '25

The fear of the unknown is a killer to fools.

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u/Onebadmuthajama Jan 07 '25 edited Jan 07 '25

It’s true just none that are truly your own blood.

Edit: feelings don’t change facts. If you can’t afford kids, you can’t afford IVF. IVF is not guaranteed, just like any other form of contraception. Yes, you can adopt, and I implore you to, since the world needs it. Nothing I’ve said is targeted, or untrue.

As much as you hate me for speaking the truth, it doesn’t change the truth.

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u/HappyLittleDelusion_ Jan 07 '25

Women that get tubals/bisalps still can through IVF.

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u/barnsticle Jan 07 '25

Besides your comment being disgusting, a woman can still have eggs harvested and implanted without her tubes.

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u/Joker4U2C Jan 07 '25

Why is it disgusting. Adoption is beautiful but humans prefer their own children primarily. It's just facts.

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u/tarantuletta Jan 07 '25

Maybe selfish humans do, but that’s kind of a you thing so maybe look inward on that.

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u/Joker4U2C Jan 07 '25

Normal. Most humans. If it's somewhat selfish. Fine.

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u/Enfreeon Jan 07 '25

God you must suck irl, but I guess you get that allot

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u/Dude_with_the_skis Jan 07 '25

So you have a foster kid I’m assuming?

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u/lohonomo Jan 07 '25

You know why it's gross

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u/Joker4U2C Jan 07 '25

Because it doesn't pretend what's real and true to most humans?

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u/American_Stereotypes Jan 07 '25

What a disgusting mindset.

Blood doesn't make family. Love does.

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u/Joker4U2C Jan 07 '25 edited Jan 07 '25

That's like your opinion, man.

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u/InGeeksWeTrust07 Jan 07 '25

That's an odd opinion.

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u/LordDaedhelor Jan 07 '25

Do you not love your family?

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u/Joker4U2C Jan 07 '25

Even if I hated them they'd still be my family.

The reality is that adoptive relationships can be beautiful and stronger than many blood ones, there is a drive/desire for the blood/flesh connection. It's OK for that to exist. It's human.

All things being equal (equally loved) you're telling me you wouldn't prefer to be genetically tied to your family?

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u/LordDaedhelor Jan 07 '25

Yes, I am telling you that. The most important person in the world to me isn’t related to me by blood, and I’m glad she isn’t. That’d be weird. You do you, though.

Jokes aside, just because someone is a relative doesn’t mean they’re family. Those two words are not direct synonyms.

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u/Doctor_Philgood Jan 07 '25

Oh no. I don't see my traits in another human. How will my narcissistic ass ever survive.

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u/AzzyIzzy Jan 07 '25

Idk theres plenty of people who have people of blood who wish they werent connected to each other with. Real family is that which you willingly accept and want. What we can give and leave for those not of our blood is exactly the same as things we can give to others of our blood.

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u/General_Coast_1594 Jan 07 '25

Men can get their vasectomy’s reversed and it’s significantly cheaper than a woman harvesting her eggs and doing IVF.

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u/Onebadmuthajama Jan 07 '25

Men develop anti-sperm antibodies quickly after a vasectomy. They can be reversed for 3-4 years with ~60% success rate, but full fertility, if any, is not a guarantee. This is a disclaimer in all vasectomies before the procedure.

Sperm bank is their safest, and most reliable option, but it also is expensive, and not guaranteed in the same ways that IVF is not guaranteed.

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u/General_Coast_1594 Jan 07 '25

Success rates for vasectomy reversal is about 50%. Success rates for IVF after a tubal ligation is about 54% for women under 35 and decreases dramatically with age, which isn’t true for me. In fact, men generally have a significantly longer period of fertility. What you would call “genetic privilege”

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/15459-vasectomy-reversal

https://www.cnyfertility.com/ivf-after-tubal-ligation/

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u/Onebadmuthajama Jan 07 '25 edited Jan 07 '25

Clearly, you’ve now come to the same conclusion I was at from the start, and that neither form of sterilization is a reliable way to have a traditional family.

Lots of emotional people in this thread who are missing the data. Thank you for sharing it.

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u/cheesy_friend Jan 07 '25

The blood of the Covenant is thicker than the water of the womb.

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u/After-Imagination-96 Jan 07 '25

So sayeth King u/Onebadmuthajama , first of his name, lord of nothing

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u/vm_linuz Jan 07 '25

"edit: I'm tone deaf and think factual correctness matters more than anything else while failing to understand the pragmatic message my comment sends in this specific context"