r/science • u/mvea Professor | Medicine • Jan 06 '25

Health After the US overturned Roe v Wade, permanent contraception surged among young adults living in states likely to ban abortion, new research found. Compared to May 2022, August 2022 saw 95% more vasectomies and 70% more tubal sterilizations performed on people between the ages of 19 and 26.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/06/permanent-contraception-abortion-roe-v-wade
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u/ThatDandyFox Jan 06 '25

Contradictory messages. "have lots of kids to fulfill God's will" but if you can't take care of the kids "maybe you should have kept your legs closed"

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u/PhoenixTineldyer Jan 06 '25

Teach the kids to accept two opposites as simultaneous truth and you can make them do anything you want.

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u/uptownjuggler Jan 07 '25

Text book double-think

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u/TheWeidmansBurden_ Jan 07 '25 edited Jan 07 '25

Vote directly against their own interests as long as it screws over [ insert group ]

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u/ScallionAccording121 Jan 07 '25

You're doing the same thing by voting democrat, whether youre willing to accept that yet or not.

Democrats threw too many people under bus, those people have no reason to vote for democrats anymore, and making the lives of people like you worse is a plus, since you did the same them.

You're scapegoating just like they do.

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u/gavrielkay Jan 07 '25

That's due to the unholy marriage that makes up the current Republican party. The rich old white men who don't want to pay taxes got together with the poor young white men who want to feel superior to women and minorities. That's why you see the mixed message of 'give your man and your God lots of babies' and 'pay for it yourself you loser' coming out of the same party.

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u/Roflkopt3r Jan 07 '25 edited Jan 07 '25

I'm by no means supportive of Christian natalism, but it's not contradictory.

They believe that you should get into a stable marriage first and then have children. And that as long as these conditions are given, you will be able to manage somehow. But if you don't have that, you should not have kids.

Obviously this has tons of issues:

  1. They want women to marry so young that they have no reasonable way to estimate how stable their marriage will be in the coming 30+ years.

  2. On top of that, young people make lots of mistakes in choosing their partners. Forcing them to stick it out no matter how it turns out means to accept domestic abuse at large scale (which is arguably a significant reason why so many Republicans want women to stop being able to get divorced...)

  3. Living on a single income have always been impossible for a large part of families, but it's especially so in our modern economy.

  4. It simply doesn't work. Highly developed traditionalist-chauvinist societies have the worst birth rates in the world.

South Korea is the peak example of how this model fails, being exactly what Republicans want America to be: Extremely sexist and conservative, lot's of "stable marriages", a strict social hierarchy, people are extremely economically competitive... yet the country is at the absolute bottom of birth rates, and the spirit among young Koreans is that their country is Hell Yoseon.

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u/Common_Senze Jan 07 '25

Sums up all of religion

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u/AlwysProgressing Jan 07 '25

It’s not contradictory if any of you have bothered to go beyond parroting. It very clearly teaches that you should find your partner, commit and become one, then repopulate. Whether or not any of us agree with it is irrelevant.

It does not say “have as much sex with as many people as you please”. If you’re going to be so confident you should at least have an idea on what you’re saying.

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u/manole100 Jan 07 '25

That's not what the parent message said, you are having your own separate argument. Typical.

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u/AlwysProgressing Jan 07 '25

What? I replied explaining how it’s not contradictory and you sidetracked. Typical