r/shrimptank 1d ago

Beginner How to increase population?

I have a 5 gallon tank with about 10 shrimps in it. Plenty of plants, algae and good soil.

I have been feeding dedicated shrimp pellets and they seem to be eating it, other than that they just graze on algae on the glass and rock.

I had shrimp before in a 14 gallon last year but they never had a massive population growth. However, the tank was not heavily planted only java moss and thin layer of sand.

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u/Bubblez___ 1d ago

you could try dimming the lights and putting on some erotic tunes?

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u/RyanF4CKINGFlash 22h ago

69th upvote 😏

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u/Bubblez___ 21h ago

shrixty nine 🤯🤯🤯

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u/Medical-Feature2557 1d ago

Just keep feeding and you should be good they tend to spike when there’s a good food source.

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u/skankynathan Neocaridina 1d ago

Seconded, I’ve had neos breed like roaches by simply over feeding and having wood placed to make caves for them.

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u/moosepuggle 23h ago edited 2h ago

Yes, female arthropods need high-quality protein and fat because it takes a ton of nutrient resources to make huge, densely-packed eggs that together essentially equal the volume of her entire body. Shrimp, liker other animals, can't make all of their own amino acids and fats, so they have to get these from their diet. If she doesn't have enough resources to make eggs, then she won't make eggs.

Source: I'm a professor in molecular biology working on embryo development using amphipod crustaceans and other arthropods

Also this neat meta analysis finds the exact essential amino acid requirements for crustaceans:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/raq.12886?utm_source=perplexity

Actually this paper from Mente 2006, "Protein nutrition crustaceans", is better, it focuses only on crustaceans, not fish and crustaceans:

https://scholar.google.ca/scholar_url?url=https://www.academia.edu/download/49792160/Protein_nutrition_in_crustaceans20161022-8316-kf1erh.pdf&hl=en&sa=X&ei=IZryZ9iCIoC96rQP_N-doQU&scisig=AFWwaeZ1x13GJdIIXgMHWLEQGA0V&oi=scholarr

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u/KeKGudao 8h ago

It’s honestly amazing how Reddit can serve as my second university professor on a somewhat regular basis. I just felt compelled to say thanks for teaching me something new tonight! I sometimes wish my major was Bio instead of Psychology lol.

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u/moosepuggle 2h ago

Thanks! I love my work and sharing it with others 🤓

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u/Paranoid_Custodian 1d ago

Check out glass box diaries on YouTube. He put a video out 11 days ago. He also answers to every question and comment

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u/ShoujiShu 1d ago

I don't know. I bought 10 blue shrimp a couple of months ago, and now I have more than 30, still more coming up I suppose. I think that maybe some patience would do half of the trick.

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u/Rolling_Pangolin 1d ago

Go to the store and buy more

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u/Chinchillapeanits 1d ago

What is that groaning noise.

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u/EducationalBus2231 21h ago

sounds like a dog(maybe?) snoring

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u/_jonnny_ 1d ago

The way I got my population to go crazy was by feeding blood worms every other day and plenty java moss 😊

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u/AgroecologicalSystem 1d ago

Is the Java moss good for them for some reason?

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u/sillysilly010101 1d ago

Yes, in the sense that it provides them with surface area for grazing on algae, and it also gives baby shrimp a place to hide.

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u/Longjumping_College 1d ago

Live or dried bloodworms

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u/whitericeSD 1d ago

I’ve been using frozen myself

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u/Warm-Zone-8259 1d ago

Came here to say this. My female amano who hadn't produced eggs in the 3 months I had her became instantly egg obsessed the second I started feeding bloodworms ( just tryingntk give the tank a treat). I haven't managed to get salt water set up for the larva so no new shrimps for me, but bloodworms made her go wild. I think some other high protein foods can have that effect too. I've since found she goes feral for Hikari crab cuisine which has some nice calcium in it, so I think that could work similarly

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u/swaha_it_is2022 1d ago

Wait a bit & add katappa leaves. Skrimp army is inevitable

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u/Wilbizzle 1d ago

Males. Get 3males. Get 10 females. Put shrimp in an established tank carefully.

You will have at least 1 -5 berried females within a few weeks to a month at most with no other problems. Also they like less light when breeding.

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u/eryourzek 1d ago

If you have males and females I recommend Hikari algea wafers. I had a tiny population of 6 males and 1 female in my 29 around Crimis and now I have 7 berried females with more growing up and shrimp everywhere. Those wafers are magic.

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u/Count_Von_Roo 20h ago

How frequently would they get a pellet?

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u/eryourzek 18h ago

Every day because I have loaches and stuff in the tank as well.

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u/intel-i9-Processor 18h ago

Wtf. You got your shrimp in a “community” tank?. What all kinds of fish are in there?.

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u/eryourzek 15h ago

Guppies, Cory cats, 2 bristlenose, 5 young Yoyo that decimated the horde of snails and will be moving to a 45gallon tank, normal community fish.

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u/ThrowRA178910 1d ago edited 15h ago

I notice feeding quite a bit of high protein foods help. When I was gone last month, my boyfriend was only feeding 2 times a week to keep my water quality decent.

I had no babies at all when I came home and still don’t (just got back a week ago) - typically I have babies everywhere. Now that I’m back, I’ve seen TONS of berried mamas that weren’t berried when I got home simply bc I feed daily and feed copiously.

Water parameters and hardness could also play a role.

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u/intel-i9-Processor 18h ago

What should I expect to do with berries shrimp?. What do I need to get to prepare?. Thanks!

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u/ThrowRA178910 15h ago

Really nothing special just keep your water parameters good and make sure they have plenty of spaces to hide like moss and heavy planting, especially if you have fish 😊 once they hatch out I sprinkle high protein tropical fish food all throughout the tank including into the mossy areas and the babies are able to eat without being exposed. I make the pieces small by crushing them between my fingers and sprinkling it all about.

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u/ShrimplyCanadian ALL THE 🦐 1d ago

Feed them well, keep the tank stable and be patient. Check this video out: https://youtu.be/H-Eyqey-vnY?si=FnTCOkRw_fG8no8b

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u/kpaisley1 23h ago

A higher temperature increases breeding. However it also leads to a shorter life span. There are some studies about this if you are interested, just google temp effect on shrimp breeding and you should be able to find more info. When I had my initial batch of 10 I kept temperature at 76f or so. Within 2 months of receipt I had 6 of 7 females berried. It has been almost 6 months since I started and I have at least 75 (that is what I can count so probably more I don’t see). After the initial berried females had their babies I reduced temp to 73. Always have a few berried so that they continue to reproduce easily at this point. Lower temperature increases breeding also results in more females than males as well! Anyway… you may want to try gradually bumping your temp up until you have the new generation!

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u/ModifiedKitten Intermediate Keeper 20h ago

Offer a tax rebate for every kid they have.

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u/intel-i9-Processor 18h ago

LOL. Comment has me dying laughing.

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u/stryst 1d ago

Get some Indian Almond leaves and put on the bottom. Increase plants with hiding places (I like guppy grass). And start some infusoria and start adding it as soon as you see shrimplets. Check your temperature and make sure it's not too low.

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u/Latter_Ingenuity8068 1d ago

Spam plants + waiting time observe their natural habitat and mimic the tank

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u/s1cari0_ 1d ago

What are your parameters?

Do you have female shrimps in it?

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u/_SneakyDucky_ 1d ago

All the recommendations are great, but biggest question is do you have both sex of shrimp? I bought 8, and after they've molted and grown a bit, and now I'm pretty confident I only got ladies 😅 going to have to go back and get some males

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u/intel-i9-Processor 18h ago

I have no way to tell tbh 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/Mikelly2005 1d ago

That one big female in front looks like she is newly berried. They seem to populate when they are fed heartily and warmer water 76° about. Feed daily and turn up the heat a degree or so. Then wait maybe a month. You will see tiny babies in there.
Are there fish in there? I have had huge population booms despite 6 guppies in the same tank. It’s really about food. If the fish are well fed, they’ll leave anything they have to chase alone.

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u/OwlDoggo129 1d ago

I had a colony that started with 10 shrimp and the population exploded into an insane amount every point in the tank had at least 5 shrimps visible.

Something happened and the population just declined. Until now I am unsure what happened. I initially suspected inbreeding cause females got berried and just dropped their eggs.

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u/Commercial_Basis4441 Advanced Keeper 1d ago

I usually just crank up the heat a little bit and put on some sweet tunes

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u/DeBoogieMan Neocaridina 1d ago

How long has it been up and running with shrimps in it? And how long without?

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u/THEBEAN867 1d ago

Add some cholla wood or maybe a place for them to hide

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u/aesztllc 1d ago

i started dosing with kats aquatics calcium wafers & i have very much noticed an increase in the amount of breeding!! They’re having healthier molts now which means more breeding.

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u/biteme5141 22h ago

Would this effect my Gh or Kh?

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u/aesztllc 19h ago

as they dissolve they can release calcium which is going to affect the general hardness if you overdo it. I personally feed very small amounts & attempt to target feed so that all the food is being consumed & less is being dissolved out into the water column. The instructions state to remove uneaten food after 12 hours, so i find its very important to use a feeding plate so that you’re able to easily remove the food. I honestly just really like her formula because it doesnt crash your water quality. She does use a small amount of wheat, but only as a binder so it doesnt immediately dissolve once it hits your tank as compared to a filler like many companies use it.

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u/JulieThinx 1d ago

Red floaters took my population from 20 + some culls to hundreds

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u/intel-i9-Processor 18h ago

Wtf is a “red floater” referring to? Lol

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u/JulieThinx 18h ago

A plant that is a floater. When conditions are good the roots grow long. I had swaths of shrimp breed in here.

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u/intel-i9-Processor 18h ago

I’m going to have to look into these and try and buy some nice ones.

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u/XZS2JH 1d ago

Frozen bloodworms 2-3 times a week seemed to do the truck for me

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u/Stuffie_lover 1d ago

Sometimes I mess with my light cycle so it seems like winter and then spring to get more babies. Plus overfeeding and more hides.

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u/trumpsstylist 22h ago

Put a little more food than you think you need. I started seeing my population explode when i put extra food in there

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u/creechor 20h ago

Have you tested your GH? I had a hard time getting a steady population until I addressed that issue in my tank and then they went kaboom and now I have an extreme abundance of them.

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u/intel-i9-Processor 18h ago

What is a good GH?.

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u/creechor 17h ago

I keep mine around 11dGH (200ppm). I have to add Bee Shrimp GH+ because my water has 0 GH naturally. Before I started supplementing I had really low breeding rates and lost them to failed molts regularly.

My well water has really high KH naturally, not sure what's recommended.

My pH is around 7.5

I keep my temp around 75⁰F

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u/UTgeoff 18h ago

Mine started breeding more when my Christmas moss filled in and they had more places to hide. I started with 5, am up to 15, and there’s 3 eggnant mommas in there right now.

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u/UTgeoff 18h ago

Mine started breeding more when my Christmas moss filled in and they had more places to hide. I started with 5, am up to 15, and there’s 3 eggnant mommas in there right now. (Also a 5 gallon tank)

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u/No-Category7888 12h ago

i find that shrimps do best when i stop mucking around with the tank and to just leave it alone. most i would do is trim the plants and 20% water change every month or so. but this only applies to shrimps only tanks tho because of the lower bioload

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u/Nitrus_Knight 7h ago

Keep watch of your pH. Some shrimp species needs specific water parameters to feel comfortable enough to breed. One example of this is my Caridina Sp Malayensis (Malayan Shrimp), that only breeds when my water pH is 6 or lower

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u/smsmsm11 1d ago

Good water conditions, correct temperature, lots of hiding spots and lots of food always make mine breed.

However in a 5 gallon you’re not going to get heaps more breeding.. they self limit their population due to tank size.

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u/Mikelly2005 1d ago

That’s true. A colony will only grow according to space & food supply. They actually regulate their own population by dropping eggs or not fertilizing them at all if their environment tells them so. I think that’s a really cool aspect to shrimp.
Last week I started finding 1-3 dead shrimp every day or 2. I’ve been racking my brain. They all have their heads missing too! I did a lot of research. My water is fine. LOTS of plants and hiding caves etc. Well, they ARE all adult bigger shrimp. They are just getting older. It’s a 2 yr old colony that I started with 3 shrimp. 1 male and 2 females. 2 yrs later I give away 30-50 every month as feeders or pets. I generally have 200-300 cherry shrimp in a 20 gal community tank. For every dead adult I find, there are 20-50 shrimplets being born every week. And I have 6 guppies in there AND a honey gourami. Surely they should control the population. But, they all get along peacefully. I trade or give away all those shrimp every month just so I can keep the cycles going. Then last month I added 6 blue cherries to the mix! I can’t wait to see what colors I get. PS: I guess the heads get eaten 1st because it’s the most nutritious part of any living being…the brain 🧠 Makes sense 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/kpaisley1 23h ago

Yes, they do self limit their population size, however that limit is typically a lot (especially if there is adequate food supply). I have an 8 gallon shrimp tank with at least 75 shrimp (that I can see) and always at least a few berried.

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u/creechor 20h ago

I have over 150 red cherry shrimp in my 5 gallon, I thought their breeding had stopped but I just noticed a batch of babies last night 🫣

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u/UTgeoff 16h ago

That’s a nice looking tank. 👍

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u/creechor 16h ago

Thank you!!

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u/smsmsm11 19h ago

Interesting. I haven’t kept cherries in a while and only keep crystal now. A while back moved around 100 crystal from my 30 gallon to my 6 gallon - same parameters, heavily planted lots of hiding spots.

I had 3-4 berried shrimp who dropped their berries - and none have been pregnant since, population still the same just no new young - so I’m guessing they’re at their limit.

I know cherries would breed much quicker however.

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u/creechor 18h ago

What are your GH, KH, and pH parameters? Temperature?

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u/extended_dex 22h ago

Manual shrimp fuckin.