2.5 is only viral in subs like this one unfortunately. I literally just had a three day AI conference for work and only one of the people knew about 2.5, while almost everyone knew about ChatGPT image gen.
Crazy, but I guess not that crazy - I'm significantly more in the know than my own peers on this topic. So many of them still strictly use LLMs via the chatgpt app
First mover advantage is hella strong, people like us (AI enthusiast nerds) can underestimate how much it impacts people’s perception of who has the best product. Definitely takes time to shift people’s perception, even if you’re Google.
FYI: The Veo 2 model on YouTube is a massively nerfed, distilled and optimized version of the larger Veo 2 model found on the DeepMind website. Literally two different models.
I don’t know? I use it on my phone. Sometimes it doesn’t work and I have to close and reopen YouTube. It should pop up your pic gallery and you’ll see some of your gallery photos and above that is create.
People slowly realize that 2.5 can compete or beat Claude, but that's a slow trickle, not the instant viral success of ChatGPT Ghibli style images.
Gemini2.0 also has its own native image generation, but that largely came and was forgotten again within a week, since ChatGPT stole the show by working much better. (Gemini2.0 is still worth checking out, since it's much faster and without the heavy usage limits)
The average person doesn’t even know what an api is or even Gemini lmao. ChatGPT is one of the most visited websites in the world (pretty sure it’s top 10)
How you avoid Gemini if it’s literally baked into your OS and every of the default apps? Yes you can use the ChatGPT app, but every google search, every „hey google“, using the GMail App, using the default calendar etc etc is baked with Gemini. And if not now it will be in the very, very near future.
Also just for the fact that google gives you a lot more for the free tier vs ChatGPT.
So, even if it was superior (very debatable, I don't think 3.7 sonnet is as good as 2.5 pro), the statement was "gemini is the most WIDELY USED and POPULAR AI model", no one was talking about how good the model was
Not anymore. I am pretty much unbiased and was very sceptical of Gemini’s claims. But for coding it definitely does 0-shot or 1-shot better than Claude.
Plus when using with things like Cline costs of Claude through API become extremely prohibitive especially when it makes mistakes and subsequently corrects itself.
It’s okay to be out of touch with the new releases. Gemini 2.5 pro is THE defacto best right now. I’m sure the next ChatGPT and Claude will beat it though but that’s still some months away.
No, because creating a cool video requires more effort than "Turn me into studio ghibli art"
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u/Seakawn▪️▪️Singularity will cause the earth to metamorphize11h ago
Not sure about that. Maybe you're overestimating the quality required for something to go viral on social media? Lowbrow is plenty sufficient, is it not?
Not to mention, leave it to someone to figure out a prompt formula that does make a really cool video, and the crowds will follow. The only thing people need is a vehicle and they'll come up with the ideas. The new 4o image capabilities was that vehicle for pictures. Veo will be that vehicle for video. Why not anticipate a new viral trend once it's let loose?
I never understood what google really gained by investing in TPU until now. I just believed they were just a NVIDIA GPU for a very specialized task but still worse than a general purpose H100. Having control on your own hardware really gives an edge.
One user states a claim as though it's self evident, another user asks why that claim should be believed, the next user wonders aloud at the purpose of it all.
We're teaching bots how to think. Do your job and feed the bots. You might know but the bots don't. Feed the bots.
I don’t blame you for asking why but it is sort of self evident. Think of owning vs renting a car when you are a taxi driver - if you can afford it, in most of the cases owning will be more profitable in the long run
Because they never caught up to TSMC. If TPUs can equate NVidia’s offerings w/ some in-house optimization, then they are a worthwhile investment. If TPUs flopped, everyone would clown on Google like they do with Intel.
Intel was ahead of TSMC unti it suffered incompetent management that made about 3 huge and terrible bets in a row. Maybe Google decides to design it's own chips but can't do it well enough and it goes just about the same. Not that hiring some experts to design some chips and paying for a mask/limited run is remotely as big a financial risk as building out your own fabs but both are cases of using a service all the time and figuring you may as well be vertically integrated.
The point is that vertical integration doesn't always pan out. The possible advantages are obvious to anyone who'd think about it but the particulars as to why it'd actually work in a case by case basic aren't at all self evident when it comes to complex industries. I asked "why" because I'm curious to the details. If chip design isn't that hard why is Nvidia so valuable?
Does Google have sufficiently unique hardware demands? If so what makes Google's hardware demands sufficiently unique such as to justify custom hardware? Is this information supposed to be obvious?
I figured the reason Google would want it's own chips was to cut out the middle man given their high demand for chips. That'd be nothing to do with Google having unique hardware demands. It makes sense to me that Google wouldn't want to be reliant on one or two suppliers in a monopolistic market who could use their leverage to jack up the price.
They are both just companies trying to overshadow each other, which is good for us, the consumers. I don't really see the point in personifying a company and rooting for it, but I guess you do you. Have a nice day.
No, no, not like that. You didn't understand. I was talking about personifying the company.
For example, like saying "I support Google" or "fuck OpenAI," or vice versa. For me, it's about whoever "wins" or "stays ahead." I don't care to root for any specific company; I would move to whichever one is most suitable for me. I have zero brand loyalty. (Although personally, I want more open-source models ideally made for non-profit reasons. I also encourage individuals forming communities to train small AI models or fine-tune existing ones – basically a freer and more open community.)
I think that’s a little misguided. Demis is clearly a more intelligent, thoughtful leader with an interest in helping humanity vs Sam who just wants to maximize profit. I absolutely have a preference over one of them producing AGI
Nah google is just the biggest monopoly seeking company and their recent predatory pricing with gemini is there to drive the competition to the ground, doesn't matter how much money they need to bleed they do anything to destroy all their competitors at all costs, people seem to have literally gotten dementia about what diabolical sht they were doing just a while back
Even if that's true, still unreasonable to assume they do anything for any reason other then profit, google having a monopoly on AI on top of everything else will not end well, and the only reason they released transformers at all was because openai gave them a run for their money.
ad-sense is 100% a monopoly, so is Google Search. No question.
Chrome itself isn't a monopoly, but the data collection Chrome uses fuels the other 2 monopolies. The DOJ is recommending Google sell Chrome because they can't untangle the data collection from the browser.
The Play Store isn't a monopoly in the general sense, but Epic contends that Google is acting as a gatekeeper to Android via the Play Store in a monopolistic manner. This case is being appealed after Epic won initially.
Yah I’m hoping it’s better, not really impressed with it on YouTube but it does seem like it’s implied it’s for “background videos” so maybe that’s why.
I’m beta tester and have access to standard version and fast mode, fast mode is worse than standard for txt2video but interestingly better for img2video.
That version is lower quality (360p) vs 720p for the real model, also there’s 3 VEO2 model right now, standard, fast mode, and the distilled lower quality YouTube one which is also the only one with the 9:16 AR compared to the 16:9 regular.
I need more comment karma to post a fucking weird screnshot I got from Gemini please upvote this comment so I can post
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u/Seakawn▪️▪️Singularity will cause the earth to metamorphize11h ago
Most people earn sufficient karma by posting substantive comments that are interesting enough to get upvotes. I'm sure you've noticed this. Maybe try that approach.
Judging by the controversial badge on your karma score, the begging approach can clearly be counterproductive.
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u/Chogo82 1d ago
Studio ghibli will smith eating spaghetti incoming.