r/slaythespire • u/MathOfLegends • Jan 01 '25
BOARD GAME Silent Accuracy+ with Riddle with Holes+
I lucked out pretty hard and managed to draw and upgrade Accuracy and Riddle with Holes by about 2/3 of the way through Act 1. I also got Blade Dance as well as shown.
I just wanna confirm, accuracy essentially doubles the damage of daggers right? The rules say treat each dagger separately in terms of strength, vulnerable, etc., so is it the same for accuracy? e.g. if I draw the 3 cards shown in round 1 would it just be 14 damage? Thanks!
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u/dTXTransitPosting Jan 01 '25
Making riddle with holes a shiv is some wild work.
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u/MeditativeCarnivore Jan 01 '25
Right?? I've never played the board game, but it somehow makes total sense?
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u/rikerw Jan 01 '25
In the board game, shivs are retained as a sort of bonus attack but you can only have a max of 5 at a time
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u/Tristan_Cleveland Eternal One + Heartbreaker Jan 01 '25
It makes Riddle with Holes so much more relevant to Silent. Kind of a weird card as it is.
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u/Hypstersaurus Jan 01 '25
my exact same thought, silent has no way of increasing strength through cards so why is this card a thing? only thing it could be good for is with evenom but it just makes it do 5 poison on top of that, pretty useless card
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u/blahthebiste Jan 01 '25
I had a run with Akabeko RWH right off the bat and tbh it crushed Act 1 and a lot of Act 2
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u/Yoshikki Ascension 20 Jan 02 '25
I once had a run where it was my damage source with Bullet Time + Wrist Blade, a super situational combination but I saw literally no other sources of damage that run. I actually won that run funnily enough
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u/sadisticsn0wman Jan 02 '25
Silent already wants strength for shivs so it fits with that. But yeah the main synergy is with envenom (gets even better with sneko skull)
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u/allstar64 Ascension 20 Jan 01 '25 edited Jan 01 '25
Shivs are much stronger in the the board game. Functionally they all have retain and don't take up space in your hand which address their biggest weaknesses in the video game. Had a crazy run where I was able to play Burst+ (changed to cost 0 energy but only double 1 skill) with RiddleFoH 3 times in 1 turn on top of saving 5 shivs from a previous turn and having Infinite blades+ in play (changed to give +2 shivs at start of turn) for 37 shivs in a single turn. Also had Wrist Blade and Accuracy Red Skull (+1 str the first time your deck is shuffled) in play for 3 damage shivs. 111 damage coming up (equal to about 555 damage in the video game)
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u/debian_miner Eternal One + Ascended Jan 01 '25
You can only have a max of 5 shivs, do you play the leftover shivs before infinite blades happens?
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u/DoggyDoggy_What_Now Jan 01 '25
The rules clarify that if you would gain a shiv when you're already full, you can just use one of your existing shivs to empty one of them and immediately receive the newly gained one.
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u/allstar64 Ascension 20 Jan 01 '25 edited Jan 01 '25
Yes. The rules say that if you would gain more than 5 shivs the extra shivs can be used immediately and even goes as far as to say that there should never be a situation where you need to waste a shiv.
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But keep in mind with Shivs, you can use them immediately to deal damage (see Shivs on previous page). So a Shiv should never go to waste unless you want it to.
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u/hikdeen Eternal One + Heartbreaker Jan 01 '25
Should say rarely, since the heart and its mechanic exists.
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u/DoggyDoggy_What_Now Jan 01 '25
How the hell did you Burst Riddled w/Holes three separate times in a single turn? Like, 3 separate plays of Burst+ with each play being on Riddle w/Holes. How?
Also, Shivs aren't the only thing that's stronger. Poison feels straight up broken in the boardgame because it doesn't dissipate each turn like in the videogame. It just remains. I did a double take when I read that in the rules.
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u/allstar64 Ascension 20 Jan 01 '25 edited Jan 01 '25
It was a specifically set up turn. Literally the last turn of the entire run vs Heart so my build was at max power. Using Well Laid Plans I Retained Burst-Riddled and had Outmaneuver also (buffed in the board game to have Retain and gain 2/3 energy if retained last turn) so that covered a single play of Burst-Riddled as well as all the energy I need.
I then used Dead Branch (once per combat draw cards equal to the number of cards exhausted) to draw everything and redraw Burst-Riddle though I think I was misplaying at this point because I thought that exhausted status went to my exhaust pile where they actually are returned to their decks so I might have drawn too much. Regardless 2nd play. Then I had some way to draw it again for the final play. Burst+ costing only 0 when upgraded makes it much easier to use. I actually wrote up a session report for this and about 12 other runs that I can link if you want it.
Hard to say for poison. The hard limit of 30 is kind of low compared to the 1000+ you can get in the video game with explosive Catalyst kills and not being able to apply it and focus 100% on block because your teammates might not be built for that makes it weaker and harder to use. Not that it's bad mind you, just in some ways stronger and some ways weaker.
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u/Silicon359 Jan 01 '25
You are correct in your assessment of the misplay, from what I can tell. I've done the same though with Ironclad after a max strength Fiend Fire / Dark Embrace / Exhume / Dead Branch and vulnerable combo.
That one was a heck of a turn, though since there's no hand limit. Perhaps I accidentally did an extra 60-80 damage (since each exhausted card was worth 20 damage), but it wasn't really that consequential; it was a massive overkill anyway. (8 str + 2 FF) * 2 vulnerable * number of cards which was like 7 for 140, then drew the 7 exhausted which included an Exhume, exhumed FF, used Dead Branch to draw the more than 7 in my exhaust pile. I think I might have had 20ish cards at that point, but probably should have only been 16 or 17. Then a vulnerable pot and repeat the FF for 400 damage, but should have "only" been ~320 for a total of ~460 that turn.
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u/devTripp Jan 01 '25
I am 100.0% confident you mentioned Accuracy and Riddle With Holes in your post.
Accuracy Silent Uncommon Power
1 Energy | Shivs deal 4(6) additional damage.
Riddle With Holes Silent Uncommon Attack
2 Energy | Deal 3(4) damage 5 times.
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u/MathOfLegends Jan 01 '25
Thanks bot even though this is for the board game 😂 I forgot that riddle with holes is completely different in the original.
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u/KokiriLad Jan 01 '25
You are correct on the accuracy essentially doubling the damage of the daggers since they all do 1 damage on their own. So with Accuracy they all deal 2!
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u/Ti-Jean_Remillard Eternal One + Heartbreaker Jan 01 '25
Yes. 14 damage indeed (which is insane for Act 1, ggs)
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u/MathOfLegends Jan 01 '25
Thanks for the reply! Guess it’s just one of those busted runs damn
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u/slopschili Ascension 20 Jan 01 '25
Glad you're enjoying the game, it's such a great adaption. There's tons of discussion on Board Game Geek as well if you're curious
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u/GingaNinja1427 Jan 01 '25
The board game is so good, especially if you play with others.